The real Brexit thread

Pretty obvious that he's just on another wind up. Tasteless given the numbers killed by Corbyn's chums in that picture and the significance of today's date.

OnlyOneTugay said:

Corbyn not only associates himself with IRA terrorists but has friends in Hamas & Hezbollah , Islamic terrorists .

However that's hardly surprising when you consider that a woman called Nasreen Khan is on a shortlist of candidates to stand in a Labour council seat in Bradford .

Miss Khan claimed in 2012 that Jews " have reaped the rewards of playing victims " and that there are " worse people than Hitler in this world "

Khan's views are indistinguishable from those of neo - Nazis . Corbyn leads a party of antisemites & racists . We should all fight to prevent him & his nasty party from leading our great country . We fought a world war to stop this type of ideology .

Am I the only one who felt particularly uncomfortable when I saw Corbyn laying a wreath at the Cenotaph ?

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You mean this disgusting excuse for a human being

No it's not her but that is pretty appalling . I wonder what the Guardian readers think of that ?

Nasreen Khan made antisemitic comments ,but just a local activist standing for selection for a seat on Bradford Council .

Corbyn's Labour Party appears to be infected with these sick individuals from top to bottom .

Drog said:

Pretty obvious that he's just on another wind up. Tasteless given the numbers killed by Corbyn's chums in that picture and the significance of today's date.

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An alternative point of view or one that differs from the consensus does not constitute a "wind-up". If you don't agree present different arguments.

yoda said:

You are describing the EU, better known as the 4th Reich.

Can't believe you have been brainwashed so effectively, I suppose some types are more susceptible.

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Sorry, but as someone who quotes the Express this surely must be tongue in cheek?

You know the argument is nearly won when your opponent resorts to dramatic imagery and multicoloured text.

Just for reference Ben/Chris/John/Doris/Jim:
In my voting lifetime (which has been in Australia) I have never voted for a right wing party. Mind you, we have had some pretty good left wing pollies. Notably, Gough, Hawke, Keating and Gillard; all who knew how to solve problems even when in a minority government. If you want to see how a left wing government should act without being considered a left wing radical, then read up those four. UK Labour could learn a lot.

Goverment for the people rather than government for an agenda perhaps dave?

Indeed, drog.
There were many people of the "right" persuasion voting for a left leaning government in those days, because it was governing for the majority.
To save Ben some time:
Gough (Whitlam) introduced medicare (universal health system), brought the troops back from VietNam.
Hawke resolved the "Unions" always going on strike.
Keating sorted the economy, which we are still benefiting from today.

Which of those things do you think Corbyn and his rag tag band of incompetents masquerading as a serious and viable Shadow Cabinet* would have been able to complete should they have been in power in Oz for those years?

* Just like the eu referendum there is way too much attention given to interviews with the slippery Corbyn and not enough afforded to his close chums in the Shadow Cabinet. It suits Labour's agenda to keep these incompetents under wraps. Unfortunately it makes elections skewed and turns them into to some sort of warped X Factor event based way too heavily on the personalities of the two main protagonists. Like a latter day Pied Piper I get the impression that the 18-25 year olds are strongly for Corbyn after his Glastonbury appearance and his 'free skool' promises but somehow it needs ramming home to them the atrocities carried out by the IRA and various terror organisations which he supports, plus the horrors of the communist influenced 70's governments. To the older end it's real and starkly horrific memories, but to the kids it's just pages in a history book.

There should be a test at the polls before people vote to name 3 randomly selected members of the previous Cabinet AND Shadow Cabinet and what their positions held were. If people can't answer that or similar then very sorry, but no voting paper allowed.

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Drog said:

. To the older end it's real and starkly horrific memories, but to the kids it's just pages in a history book.

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Agree with this, and should include also a chapter on the social and economic vandalism of Thatcherism, the horrific effects of which are with us today.

On another note, European business leaders warned Theresa May today that jobs and investment in the UK could be lost unless urgent progress is made in the Brexit talks.

And the pound has fallen sharply following weekend reports that 40 Conservative MPs had signed a letter of no confidence in May.

A Jeremy Corbyn government possibly in place in the new year? Let's hope so.

The hypocrisy of this breathtaking.

John Redwood, hard right Eurosceptic and cheerleader for a no-deal Brexit, , is advising investors to take their money out of Britain because of the impending car crash in the economy as Britain prepares to leave the EU.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/13/labour-accuses-john-redwood-of-talking-britain-down

Brexiteers - the true Enemies of the People

Benjamin Kaynine said:

There's only one Nasty Party - patent Theresa May when she was in opposition. As for racists and xenophobes, look no farther than the Brexit campaign, and the right wing wing of the Conservative party.

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Brexit was a cross party effort . Just seen Frank Field on the Daily Politics , has more integrity in his little finger than the whole Labour front bench put together . Made some excellent points on Brexit and said that the UK negotiating team should stand firm on any settlement payment . When the likes of Poland , Romania . Ireland etc come to Brussels on their annual pilgrimage with their empty begging bowls , the pressure will be on Drunkard and Barmier to get their act together and agree a deal with the UK

You're right , Corbyn's Labour isn't the nasty party it's the really nasty party . Here's another one of his cronies , Emma Dent Coad ideal material for his front bench. Appalling racism .

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...cribed-black-tory-candidate-token-ghetto-boy/

A view from the US. Uncomfortable reading.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/04/sunday-review/britain-identity-crisis.html

Benjamin Kaynine said:

An alternative point of view or one that differs from the consensus does not constitute a "wind-up". If you don't agree present different arguments.




Sorry, but as someone who quotes the Express this surely must be tongue in cheek?

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Childish and you just contradicted your previous post about differing views, do you have an attention span disorder?

I expected an upturn in Remoaner rhetoric today after the ambush in the commons yesterday.

Benjamin Kaynine said:

A view from the US. Uncomfortable reading.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/04/sunday-review/britain-identity-crisis.html

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I recently read the following about the New York Times :

" The New York Times is like a 1960s adolescent who refuses to grow up.  In a perpetual state of outrage, it is a newspaper of college snowflakes who embrace all forms of diversity except thought. It sees its liberal politics not as a point of view, but as received wisdom that cannot be legitimately disputed "

Now which British newspaper does that remind you of ?

The Daily Mail ?

OnlyOneTugay said:

I recently read the following about the New York Times :

" The New York Times Benjamin Kaynine is like a 1960s adolescent who refuses to grow up.  In a perpetual state of outrage, "

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That reads better.

Old Benjamin reminds me of the old saying............ "If a man is not a socialist by the time he is 20, he has no heart. If he is not a conservative by the time he is 40, he has no brain."

Drog said:

That reads better.

Old Benjamin reminds me of the old saying............ "If a man is not a socialist by the time he is 20, he has no heart. If he is not a conservative by the time he is 40, he has no brain."

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Unfortunately we live in an era were adolescence is a perpetual state of mind.

Benjamin Kaynine said:

The Daily Mail ?

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Nope , the correct answer is The Guardian . Whatever career options you're considering Chris , avoid journalism