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ABBEY
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Don't care how much spent . So as I said earlier anyone outside the top 6 has to play hoofball and try and attack or win?
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Here you go. You need to set it to week 16 or 17 (11th and 12th)
https://www.premierleague.com/tables?co=1&se=19&ha=-1
Marlow Rover
Senior Member
I wouldn't mind examples of managers who have successfully played attractive football and stayed in the Prem for an extended period of time with a club... Howe has done okay at Bournemouth, spending £120m in the three seasons they have been in the prem.
Pardew..... spent £100m last summer at Palace and got canned... for Allardyce amusingly enough.
Koeman... who I personally rate - £230m in two seasons.... canned for Allardyce.
Martinez - Over 100 in two seasons - Evertonian's were baying bloody by the end and he took Wigan down.
Bilic - £115m in two seasons - sacked after West Ham fans turned on him.
Silva - £55m - great start to the season and now wobbling.
I honestly can't think of many success stories
Marlow Rover
Senior Member
Thanks Drog, will have a look later. Bolton were in 6th when SA got sacked - ended up 14th, one place above us. Another manager that a lot of fans wanted after Allardyce.
Dreams do come true after all
Ridiculous thing to say and tbh a proper cop out of any sensible discussion. Especially when superior spending power has been a proven must for any previously successful club since the 60's. Lets be completely honest here and admit that we'd have won nowt without Jack Walker's millions! Nor might I add would we have seen the likes of the SAS, Tugay, Sherwood, Jansen, Duff, Dunne, Hendry Freidel etc etc in the blue and white halves! Of less importance but still relevant we'd still be in a tumble down 3 sided stadium with a capacity limited to 11000.
Not only that Abbey but imo it's an unecessary slight on a very informed post by Marlowe which must have taken a lot of time and effort to research and compose. It's the type of post that I'm sure we all want to see more of on here and silly, glib answers like that will hardly serve to make other posters take the time and trouble to compose future intelligent response will it? You are letting yourself down cos you are better than that.
Bolton had beaten us 2-1 the week he was sacked after we had quite comprehensibly outplayed them. Rather ironically their winning goal which might easily have been the final nail (long ball / unnattractive football bullshit that Anderson was filling Mrs Desai's head with) which the spiv was knocking into Allardyces coffin was a knock down by Kevin Davies from a long high ball, thumped in by that lad from America Stuart Holden** In irony entirely lost on Mrs Desai.Thanks Drog, will have a look later. Bolton were in 6th when SA got sacked - ended up 14th, one place above us. Another manager that a lot of fans wanted after Allardyce.
Dreams do come true after all
** Good player who suffered a career ending injury not long after.
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ABBEY
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Ok I give in ..86 teams can't or shouldn't play football . I'm on bored ..go on hoof the fucker
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ABBEY
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We don't need to ...only 6 needed ,the rest can't/allowed to play footy
Marlow Rover
Senior Member
I'll ask again.
I wouldn't mind examples of managers who have successfully played attractive football and stayed in the Prem for an extended period of time with a club... Howe has done okay at Bournemouth, spending £120m in the three seasons they have been in the prem.
Pardew..... spent £100m last summer at Palace and got canned... for Allardyce amusingly enough.
Koeman... who I personally rate - £230m in two seasons.... canned for Allardyce.
Martinez - Over 100 in two seasons - Evertonian's were baying for blood by the end and he took Wigan down.
Bilic - £115m in two seasons - sacked after West Ham fans turned on him.
Silva - £55m - great start to the season and now wobbling at Watford.
I honestly can't think of many success stories
Hell never mind them, Moyes, Gaal and Mourhino never attempted to play flowing football with all the resources at Man Utd did they? Preferring instead to keep it tight at the back, give nothing away and rely on the quality up top to have a high ratio of chances to goals. Rather reminds me of the rovers in 94/95 tbh!
Leicester won the title with a strong defensive line up and fast raiding forwards who were lethal on the break.
Truth is the only teams whose football is admirably easy on the eye are Arsenal and City with a nod to Swansea until recently. For his principles Wenger now get's all manner of shit from the press and media and shamefully too from large sections of the Emirates (or at least those with goldfish memories because until Wenger trapped up in '96 Arsenal were known for half a century and since Cliff Bastin in the 30's as 1-0 bores. Guardiola on the other hand relies of instilling a strong work ethic into highly skilled players (hence the admirable 7 second rule) but of course he has gazillions of £'s more than anybody else at his disposal.
Leicester won the title with a strong defensive line up and fast raiding forwards who were lethal on the break.
Truth is the only teams whose football is admirably easy on the eye are Arsenal and City with a nod to Swansea until recently. For his principles Wenger now get's all manner of shit from the press and media and shamefully too from large sections of the Emirates (or at least those with goldfish memories because until Wenger trapped up in '96 Arsenal were known for half a century and since Cliff Bastin in the 30's as 1-0 bores. Guardiola on the other hand relies of instilling a strong work ethic into highly skilled players (hence the admirable 7 second rule) but of course he has gazillions of £'s more than anybody else at his disposal.
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ABBEY
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I reply again...so 80 odd teams shouldn't try and play football they should just oik the fecker up the pitch and bore the arse off fans.?
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ABBEY
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thing is Leicester were organised and had a plan ...but they didn't hit and hope every time.
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ABBEY
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just a sam team hahaha I will leave it now.
I was going to say the same!
steve w
Senior Member
I could - but my petulant outburst is more about the sheer bloody pointlessness of the argumentYou could always apply some self-control and not click it?
Its seven (7) years ago!! and whatever the pros and cons of Sam and his management style its bloody irrelevant to where we are now
You cant change history
The wise would learn from it though.
Anyway it's long gone as you say but it's not irrelevant to where we are now tbh is it?
blueandwhitehalves
Senior Member
Unfortunately its the opposite of irrelevant. 5-10 minutes sat in any stand at Ewood and you realise the same old clowns are still expecting us to Barcelona our way to a 3-0 win every single game.
The next time we get a considerably overachieving manager playing industrial football, we'll get exactly the same "hoofball shite", "4-4-2, 4-4-2, 4-4-2", "I'm not renewing my season ticket to watch this rubbish" nonsense from half the fanbase and probably end up getting another pretty football joker in charge to reverse the progress made.