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Cowards what can we realistically do?

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ABBEY

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Hang the cowards ? Ban Muslims and mosques? Hang anyone involved ? Interment?

No idea but it's war now and whoever wins Thursday it's time for the sas at least
 
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Vinjay

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Glad its not my decision its extremely complex. Can understand those wanting to round up suspects but you have to remember there are laws especially for UK born citizens who are Muslim. "Innocent until proven guilty" there's gangsters out there for instance who are clearly criminals but no hard evidence found to arrest them. If you arrest muslims on uncertain suspicion shouldn't anyone suspected of criminal activity be arrested too? Some people seem to be talking about internment which isn't quite concentration camp level but its still persecution. Clear hate speech is one thing but suspicion isn't straightforward guilt. You can't just deport UK born citizens either its unbelievably simplistic that some people say things like that. I certainly think constant surveillance on account of suspicion is fair but even that's dependent on resources.

I don't know what to do (in this day and age everyone has an opinion and its hard to avoid giving one) but as I've said before I'm hardline on certain issues but generally a centrist. No doubt hardline on anyone who engages in hate speech, etc (I'm big on free speech but there are certain limits) but some people generalise all Muslims and that's dangerous. That's not being a "leftie" but there has to be a balance as persecuting Muslim communities is only likely to cause even more friction and exactly what ISIS want.

I know the London mayor was criticised for his blunt remark that people should "get used to it" but I kinda agree. How can you stop people actually willing to die? Its like a conveyor belt there's always someone else next in line. Japan had kamikazes of course but once the Emperor surrendered (and there was controversy with Hirohito as some felt he was a war criminal) most of the public accepted it. Some didn't but they were dealt with. ISIS don't have a real life figure like Hirohito albeit rally round their human leaders to an extent. Unfortunately their main leader is some fake God and their harmful interpretation of Islam. Peaceful interpretation of religion is no more accurate either in my view but at least peaceful means harmless.

Knifes, vans and nail bombs (though I think the ones in 2005 were more powerful than the one used at Manchester arena) are one issue. I just hope in my lifetime they don't get their hands on an instrument of mass destruction. The world itself and society (probably latter first and the worst case scenario of course being mass extinction) is certain to end in one way...badly. Just hoping I can avoid the latter and there's not much anyone can do about the former but being swallowed by the sun or hit by a comet isn't likely to happen anytime soon!
 
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yoda

yoda

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Drog said:
Stupid. Not in my back yard tactics. Reminds me of the idiotic city councils who don't want to be seen with blood on their hands so they trap foxes and then release them alive into the countryside. :mad:

These terrorists will only go back to Germany or take their threat elsewhere. We need to employ a few of those Bulgarians with ricin tipped umbrellas.
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SAS, that is the answer, bon appetite you jihadists scum bags
 
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ABBEY

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For starters I'd round up any suspect. Build a camp on Dartmoor and feed them bacon and pork. Any mosque with connections to these vermin should be bulldozed . Any objections sent to camp dart. Ban burquas and ban beards longer than two day shadow.
 
Drog

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Talking about discouraging islamic immigration and I'd offer these measures to be going on with.

1. Ban all burials. Cremations only in the UK and that'd only be after at least a week after death so that all the legal requirements can be met. Burial is a filthy and abhorrent process anyway as putrefying liquids are never able to be confined to the coffins and invariably seep into our waterways.
2. Ban all ritual slaughter of animals. Only slaughter to be carried out in licensed, inspected abbatoirs following welfare friendly procedures.
3. Ban the Burka. Most of the muslims here originate from the IndoPak area and they don't wear them there do they?
4. License and regularly inspect all mosques and Madrassas. Any transgressions of our laws and educational standards to be met with withdrawal of the Licence.
 
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ABBEY said:
For starters I'd round up any suspect. Build a camp on Dartmoor and feed them bacon and pork. Any mosque with connections to these vermin should be bulldozed . Any objections sent to camp dart. Ban burquas and ban beards longer than two day shadow.
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OK for a start but Dartmoor isn't far enough away.
 
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chor808

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Again the three scum are dead so zero consequences for them, they were happy to die. We are in a totaly different place and doing nothing is no longer an option.

  • Any sign of sympathy towards this view of Islam should equal prison
  • Viewing IS scum content should be made illegal and equal prison
  • Last nights scum seem to be in their 30s there has to be consequences for their families, where possible deportation all generations, children removed from parents etc.
  • Close down any mosque that has any connection to this scum viewpoint
  • Stop any foreign funding of mosques and other places of 'worship'
  • Force all school in mixed ethnic area to balance intake based on ethnic ground, no more all white, black, Christian, Muslim, Jewish schools
  • Ban all religious teaching for under 16s, no more sunday school, no more madrassars etc...
  • Anyone that has traveled to war zone to fight for IS etc equals prison

There is nothing really controversal in that list. We can't keep sweeping this under the carpet.
 
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