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Wilpshire Blue
Senior Member
When Warner punched a Root he got a two test ban. Hope this doesn’t happen to Bairstow as we have a rookie for backup keeper.
blueandwhitehalves
Senior Member
Do think these things get overblown, Stokes being banned from a whole Ashes tour for sorting out a couple of thugs brandishing a bottle was as unfair as it was moronic.
As for the test, pathetic from England after the first 2 days. What a player Smith is though.
As for the test, pathetic from England after the first 2 days. What a player Smith is though.
In Rugby Union a head butt used to be frequent form of greeting and in League almost a term of endearment.
Thought this for some time but Joe Root's general demeanor doesn't suggest Captain material to me. I don't know him obviously and he is a superb batsman but for Captain we need a stronger jaw line and a level eye. Probably reads illogical but it's the best words that I can put it into.
Thought this for some time but Joe Root's general demeanor doesn't suggest Captain material to me. I don't know him obviously and he is a superb batsman but for Captain we need a stronger jaw line and a level eye. Probably reads illogical but it's the best words that I can put it into.
OnlyOneTugay
Prediction Champion 2019 & 2020
Depressingly familiar performance by England when in Australia . The current Australian team is average at best. Their batting relies heavily on Smith but he usually delivers when he needs to. England needed Root to stick around , just like Smith did in the first innings and after reaching 50, the world class batsman that he is , should have gone on and got a lot more .
Having said all that I think the match winning difference between the two sides is the Australian quicks . They can blow England's 9,10, jack away , whilst our quicks aren't quite as scary for the Aussie tail . At 209 - 7 in the first innings , England had a great chance of getting the Aussies out for less than 250 , if that had happened it would have been a different game.
Having said all that I think the match winning difference between the two sides is the Australian quicks . They can blow England's 9,10, jack away , whilst our quicks aren't quite as scary for the Aussie tail . At 209 - 7 in the first innings , England had a great chance of getting the Aussies out for less than 250 , if that had happened it would have been a different game.
OnlyOneTugay
Prediction Champion 2019 & 2020
Yep , genuine pace in cricket is like genuine pace in football , it scares batsmen & defenders . Flintoff was the last England quickie who seemed to really hurry batsman . Harmison upset a few of the Aussies in 2005 , but since then we’ve had two really top bowlers ( Anderson & Broad ) but neither are quick in the true sense of the word .
I once saw Tymal Mills ball against Lancs at Old Trafford in a 50 over game and he was seriously quick , but his body is wrecked . I think he only plays T20 now. Pity because he’d have had a few of the Aussies running for cover .
I once saw Tymal Mills ball against Lancs at Old Trafford in a 50 over game and he was seriously quick , but his body is wrecked . I think he only plays T20 now. Pity because he’d have had a few of the Aussies running for cover .
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Wilpshire Blue
Senior Member
Why the hell is it going to take “several weeks” more to decide whether to charge Stokes?
Is the CPS run by Aussies?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/42171706
Is the CPS run by Aussies?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/42171706
OnlyOneTugay
Prediction Champion 2019 & 2020
Aussies 200 and odd for 4 , but Smith is back in the hutch . After losing the toss and being asked to bat , I’d say it’s been their day . England need 2 or 3 wickets early doors tomorrow .
davebirch
Senior Member
400+ with a couple to go. Bat for another hour or so, then unleash Starc, Hazelwood and Cummins.
Broad might regret giving Cummins so many short ones.
Unless England can show some superb batting skills, this test is just about unwinnable for them.
One thing I did notice was that all previous day/night tests here have had a green tinge to the wicket, not so with this one.
So were England sucked in?
Broad might regret giving Cummins so many short ones.
Unless England can show some superb batting skills, this test is just about unwinnable for them.
One thing I did notice was that all previous day/night tests here have had a green tinge to the wicket, not so with this one.
So were England sucked in?
Wilpshire Blue
Senior Member
First captain to win the toss and decide to field in 26 tests at Adelaide.
That’s working out well then
That’s working out well then
OnlyOneTugay
Prediction Champion 2019 & 2020
Raining now , hope it rains for another couple of days . I’ve come to the conclusion that the Aussie batting is as average as England’s . The difference is that their bowlers have 5mph more pace than ours & that means our top 5 tend to play from the crease and our tail end gets blown away . How many would Cummins get if he had to face Starc , Hazelwood & himself ?
You make a good point Wilpshire . I remember some old pro saying something like if you win the toss , think about fielding , think about it again & then again , and then bat ! Although to tell you the truth I’m not confident England would have been in any better position if they had batted first
BT just done a short report from NZ covering Ben Stokes first game . Lovely ground and surroundings . They showed him batting ( out for 1 ) & bowling ( no wickets ) but he looked good in the field . Best bit was they interviewed some of the spectators and the first guy was wearing the famous blue & white halves !
. I’ve come to the conclusion that the Aussie batting is as average as England’s . The difference is that their bowlers have 5mph more pace than ours & that means our top 5 tend to play from the crease and our tail end gets blown away . How many would Cummins get if he had to face Starc , Hazelwood & himself ?You make a good point Wilpshire . I remember some old pro saying something like if you win the toss , think about fielding , think about it again & then again , and then bat ! Although to tell you the truth I’m not confident England would have been in any better position if they had batted first
BT just done a short report from NZ covering Ben Stokes first game . Lovely ground and surroundings . They showed him batting ( out for 1 ) & bowling ( no wickets ) but he looked good in the field . Best bit was they interviewed some of the spectators and the first guy was wearing the famous blue & white halves !
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That's been the story of English cricket most of my life. I don't know much about cricket but it appears that our climate and wickets don't suit fast bowlers so they don't develop in numbers.
OnlyOneTugay
Prediction Champion 2019 & 2020
Yes Drog and most of mine . You’re probably right about the climate & pitches. I also think there’s something else too . I remember when I first started playing at junior level , the coaches always talked about line & length . If we had any young bowlers at the club who had the physique and ability to bowl fast the first priority was to slow down and bowl line & length . Looking back perhaps it should have been the other way round especially for those that showed real potential to bowl quick .
Long gone are the days when they used to shout down the pit for the next England fast bowler ( blame Scargill & the communist NUM for that) .
I’ve always dreamt of England going down under and having quick bowlers to bowl a version of body line again . That might just stop the Aussies “ mouthing “ off for a bit
Long gone are the days when they used to shout down the pit for the next England fast bowler ( blame Scargill & the communist NUM for that
) . I’ve always dreamt of England going down under and having quick bowlers to bowl a version of body line again . That might just stop the Aussies “ mouthing “ off for a bit
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Wilpshire Blue
Senior Member
There's a significant difference between the techniques required to play winning cricket in England and winning cricket in Australia on their concrete-hard pitches but neither visiting side seems to come to terms with that.
Look at the team of super Aussie batsmen in the 2015 ashes series - 136 all out at Edgbaston, 60 all out (how we chuckled) at Trent Bridge. Playing on the front foot to balls that are seaming around. Boycott reckoning his mum must be in the top 3 in the world if Steve Smith was.
Then we go to Aus and look like rabbits in the headlights at times with 90-odd mph balls whizzing past our ears and our bowlers make even their average batsmen look like world-beaters.
You would think that we would have more chance of reproducing their pitch conditions (artificially) than they have of reproducing ours but it never seems to happen and we almost always seem ill prepared when we turn up down under.
If we lose this ashes series I would be fairly confident that in a couple of summers we will have them back again (although there will be no Jimmy Anderson by then).
Anyway, the rain helped us today, so let's see if we can adapt a bit better tomorrow and bat through the day.
Look at the team of super Aussie batsmen in the 2015 ashes series - 136 all out at Edgbaston, 60 all out (how we chuckled) at Trent Bridge. Playing on the front foot to balls that are seaming around. Boycott reckoning his mum must be in the top 3 in the world if Steve Smith was.
Then we go to Aus and look like rabbits in the headlights at times with 90-odd mph balls whizzing past our ears and our bowlers make even their average batsmen look like world-beaters.
You would think that we would have more chance of reproducing their pitch conditions (artificially) than they have of reproducing ours but it never seems to happen and we almost always seem ill prepared when we turn up down under.
If we lose this ashes series I would be fairly confident that in a couple of summers we will have them back again (although there will be no Jimmy Anderson by then).
Anyway, the rain helped us today, so let's see if we can adapt a bit better tomorrow and bat through the day.