There'll be more Anders Breviks if these islamic atrocities and general threat isn't rubbed out pdq.
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He'll probably be guest of honour at their funerals.
http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/ni...od-in-honour-of-dead-ira-terrorists-1-7008757
The SAS got wind that the IRA were planning to attack that police station in NI at Loughgall and laid a trap. No prisoners to be taken they just executed the lot of them. The last was apparently chased across a field by the SAS in a helicopter and shot dead as he ran. Unfortunately a bystander was killed too and as a result Margaret Thatcher was pressured into withdrawing the SAS from operations in NI. Shame because the SAS were the only organisation that struck real terror into members of the IRA.
Anyway suffice to say that Corbyn sympathised with the IRA.
I suppose it's OK now though cos he had a different hair style back then.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40148737
So the murdering scum has kids, what happens to them now. Also it sounds like the police chief is trying to justify the shooting of the scum as he fears prosecution!
So the murdering scum has kids, what happens to them now. Also it sounds like the police chief is trying to justify the shooting of the scum as he fears prosecution!
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ABBEY
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so one of the cowards had been reported for his radicalness and nothing done yet again. Round these bastards up NOW!!!!!!!!!
Yeah but the problem is if you start rounding up Muslims (and in many cases people are saying that should happen on suspicion alone) shouldn't it apply to criminals in general? Like I said early in the morning there are gangsters known to the police who haven't been convicted solely due to lack of evidence. Laws are complex (perhaps too much so) and can't be simplified.
yoda
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Maybe we should have a state of emergency like they have in France for a while and the x extra powers that go with it, after all if you are law abiding you have nothing to worry about
Victor_Kruger
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You don't round up Muslims, that's just crazy, you start by rounding up those on the watch list and start from there. What I fear is that a large part of the Muslim community protects these people though it's equally fair to say it's people from the Muslim community who provide vast amount of intelligence to the security services. The Mosques are very closed and secret places, they need to be far more transparent, Islamic schools and colleges are closed and private, we need to get rid of them and the kids needs a proper national education away from the poison.
Not looking good is it. What stopped him being taken off the streets political correctness?
Friend reported suspected attacker to anti-terror hotline
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A friend of one of the suspected attackers says he had reported him to the anti-terror hotline, but no action was taken.
The man, who asked not to be named, told the BBC's Asian Network that the pair had spoken about previous attacks and he was shocked at what he had heard.
"We spoke about a particular attack that had happened and, like most radicals, he had a justification for anything, everything and anything," he said. "That day I realised that I need to contact the authorities."
But the friend claims the suspected attacker was not arrested and was allowed to keep his passport.
"I phoned the anti-terrorist hotline and spoke to the gentleman," he said. "I told him about our conversation and why I think he has been radicalised.
"I did my bit, but the authorities didn't do their bit."
The BBC has asked Scotland Yard for a response.
Friend reported suspected attacker to anti-terror hotline
Posted at18:57
A friend of one of the suspected attackers says he had reported him to the anti-terror hotline, but no action was taken.
The man, who asked not to be named, told the BBC's Asian Network that the pair had spoken about previous attacks and he was shocked at what he had heard.
"We spoke about a particular attack that had happened and, like most radicals, he had a justification for anything, everything and anything," he said. "That day I realised that I need to contact the authorities."
But the friend claims the suspected attacker was not arrested and was allowed to keep his passport.
"I phoned the anti-terrorist hotline and spoke to the gentleman," he said. "I told him about our conversation and why I think he has been radicalised.
"I did my bit, but the authorities didn't do their bit."
The BBC has asked Scotland Yard for a response.
yoda
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The Police's job is made far harder when politicians stick their heads in the sand
"The former MP for Bermondsey & Old Southwark - which contains London Bridge's south side - says "the people who did this, they are not Muslim".
"If they were Muslim they would have been in Taraweeh, the evening prayer of Ramadan, they would not have been attacking innocent civilians," Labour's Neil Coyle, who is seeking re-election in the constituency, said.
"Let's not pretend they represent their faith, their religion, they don't, they were murdering and they would find any excuse to commit murder.
"This bit of London was really badly bombed week after week, month after month during the Second World War.
"The community spirit remained really resilient and we saw a glimpse of that in the short horrific attack last night."
get real for once and admit they are Islamist terrorists you Corbynista
"The former MP for Bermondsey & Old Southwark - which contains London Bridge's south side - says "the people who did this, they are not Muslim".
"If they were Muslim they would have been in Taraweeh, the evening prayer of Ramadan, they would not have been attacking innocent civilians," Labour's Neil Coyle, who is seeking re-election in the constituency, said.
"Let's not pretend they represent their faith, their religion, they don't, they were murdering and they would find any excuse to commit murder.
"This bit of London was really badly bombed week after week, month after month during the Second World War.
"The community spirit remained really resilient and we saw a glimpse of that in the short horrific attack last night."
get real for once and admit they are Islamist terrorists you Corbynista
Have to emphasise again since there's no such thing as a "true Muslim" (religion being make believe and all) nobody can really claim their version is accurate. I guess you can't abolish religion entirely but in the long run mosque attendance needs to decline as much as the Church does. Problem is Muslim communities have far greater levels of social pressure. Have to say those claiming to be Muslim (at least those practising it harmlessly) are more dedicated to their faith than some who claim to be Christian.
I'll just call them nutcases. I don't need a fake God telling me to go out and do things. I haven't killed anyone because its illegal and I have no desire to. Maybe the concept of morality is as fictional as religion (to contradict that a bit I obviously don't consider morality make believe and most of us have an ethical code) but pack animals manage to co-exist. Yeah some kill their own species obviously but look at leadership fights, etc to lead the pack. To an extent I guess it applies to humans and of course we are scientifically considered animals ourselves even if some may prefer other terms!
I'll just call them nutcases. I don't need a fake God telling me to go out and do things. I haven't killed anyone because its illegal and I have no desire to. Maybe the concept of morality is as fictional as religion (to contradict that a bit I obviously don't consider morality make believe and most of us have an ethical code) but pack animals manage to co-exist. Yeah some kill their own species obviously but look at leadership fights, etc to lead the pack. To an extent I guess it applies to humans and of course we are scientifically considered animals ourselves even if some may prefer other terms!
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Steve Moss
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"Yet we brought it on ourselves. An unsustainable program of political correctness killed the very thing it swore to protect."
https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2017/06/04/the-niceties-lose-to-the-necessities/
https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2017/06/04/the-niceties-lose-to-the-necessities/
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ABBEY
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just read in the mirror the ringleader was on a c4 documentary last year stood with a isis flag bearer.
I have already suggested different Laws be applied to suspected terrorist situations. Normal Laws simply cannot continue to be applied to religious nutters with intentions of suicide / martyrdom.
You might as well ask what has made Police, Social services and education authorities right across the UK ignore the racist paedophile grooming gangs?
I think we all know the answer, I expect this will all blow over in a week or so with some 'tough' talking but nothing will happen. Then there will be another attack and the cycle will begin again, express shock and outrage, tell us to get on with life as normal, tell us it is not Islam, shout about enough is enough, sweep under carpet, wait for next attack and repeat.
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I trust you mean animals that live in packs rather than pack animals per sae Vinjay? If so then it's not the best comparison as our instincts are tribal.
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ABBEY
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Animals that live in packs. I didn't mean ones used to carry cargo, etc. Some people argue that humans are pack animals and tribes is probably just a more sophisticated term.
Yes ok there will be some specifics that are different. My point still applies though if you can detain potential radicals based on suspicion shouldn't the same apply to known gangsters, etc? Laws are complex but that's the type of argument that could be used in court. This article includes a section on that...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_Act_2006#Criticism_of_90-day_detention
This particular bill was rejected. These appear to be the biggest terrorism bills passed in the past 20 years with some amendments since.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_Act_2000
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevention_of_Terrorism_Act_2005
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