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[Benjamin Kaynine]

1. Of course it's relevant. You are criticising Cameron for not doing something that Labour should have done themselves.


2. Labour was in charge at the time and that's that. They are first in line and no one else can be blamed.
Plus it all led to the now famous Treasury note... 'there's no money left' didn't it?

1. Labour didn't see it as a problem. The Tories did and made it worse !

2. Labour were not to blame for a catastrophic failure of the banking sector and the reckless behaviour of its participants.

Liam Byrne's note was intended as a joke. George Osborne proved there was plenty of money available by immediately on coming to power giving a tax cut to the wealthiest

 

[Drog]

No problem with ambition and success, as long as the highest earners are not avoiding their moral and public duties and are paying the same taxes as everyone else.

Are they? Then given a PAYE situation how come a person earning £120,000.00 p.a. pays more tax in one single year than someone earning £15000.00 pays in a lifetime? I don't call that paying the same taxes as everyone else.

 

[Benjamin Kaynine]

Taxes are paid in percentages. And the wealthiest are adept in avoiding it. They employ clever people to do so, robbing ordinary people and the government of important revenues

 

[Drog]

1. Labour didn't see it as a problem. The Tories did and made it worse !

2. Labour were not to blame for a catastrophic failure of the banking sector and the reckless behaviour of its participants.

Liam Byrne's note was intended as a joke. George Osborne proved there was plenty of money available by immediately on coming to power giving a tax cut to the wealthiest

1. You see it as a problem it's your pet hobby horse John, Jim errr Chris.

2. Sorry no one else to blame is there? First job they did in 97 was free the Bank of England from governmental control.

3. See my previous post.

 

[Drog]

Taxes are paid in percentages. And the wealthiest are adept in avoiding it. They employ clever people to do so, robbing ordinary people and the government of important revenues

Correction ..... taxes are calculated in %ages, they are paid in pounds sterling.

 

[Benjamin Kaynine]

Sorry no one else to blame is there? First job they did in 97 was free the Bank of England from governmental control.

Yes, the City of London and bankers. Gordon Brown was applauded for the move....by the Tory opposition.

 

[yoda]

I see Labour councils have been laundering, I mean using off shore accounts with public money

 

[OnlyOneTugay]

Labour Councils were big users of zero hours contracts - loved the flexibility they offered

 

[Drog]

Taxes are paid in percentages. And the wealthiest are adept in avoiding it. They employ clever people to do so, robbing ordinary people and the government of important revenues

Not surprising really that resentment and mistrust occurrs when one sees what government bodies do with OUR money.
2008 under one of your heroes the unelected PM and ex chancellor Brown. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2008/oct/10/banking-iceland.
That might have built a few schools and hospitals eh Benjy.

 

[Drog]

Labour Councils were big users of zero hours contracts - loved the flexibility they offered

Remember this fella? Little Ed? Everytime he opened his mouth he told fibs. No wonder he had a nasal issue. Claimed to know more than the actual people on zero hours contracts, the Office for National Statistics. Went on to claim that taxation isn't the way forward for the nation. I wonder if Corbyn and MacDonald have seen this interview?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32147715

Truth is with minimum wage going up and the tax threshold rising, the economy booming that the lower paid have been far better off under the tories than they would ever have been under Labour. I dread to think what the state of the nation would be if Brown had somehow managed to win in 2010. Thank God for hero of the masses St Gillian (Duffy) .... the first women since St Margaret to destroy the Labour party's election hopes. Brown called salt of the earth Gillian a 'dreadful bigotted woman'! Funny how Labour habitually claim to represent the working classes but in reality when they are caught with their pants down they really don't do that at all do they? Just champagne intellectual career politicians with ladies hands who haven't done a days work between them.

 

[OnlyOneTugay]

Funny how Labour habitually claim to represent the working classes but in reality when they are caught with their pants down they really don't do that at all do they? Just champagne intellectual career politicians with ladies hands who haven't done a days work between them.

• Ed Miliband went to Oxford, and has only ever worked in politics. His father was a teacher and his mother an activist and academic.
  
• Ed Balls went to a private boys school, then Oxford, then Harvard. Aside from four years as an economics writer for the Financial Times he has only worked in politics , until he got booted out at the last election.
• Andy Burnham has been a trade unionist and in politics all his life.
• Yvette Cooper went to Oxford, Harvard and LSE
• Harriet Harman spent her career in non-profit legal groups before becoming a full time politician back in 1982 and was then joined by her Trade Unionist husband .

Can't be bothered to check out the terrorist sympathisers Corbyn and McDonnell but I'm pretty sure their careers follow a similar trajectory .

Most ordinary working people are employed in the private sector . Life in the free market is pretty simple. Do a good job, make money, and you'll get to come back to work next week. Mess up, you're fired. Working for private companies teaches you something very quickly. If you can't please other people (customers, clients, bosses) then you're going to lose your job. Something Labour and the motley crew above haven't got a clue about .

 

[yoda]

• Ed Miliband went to Oxford, and has only ever worked in politics. His father was a teacher and his mother an activist and academic.
  
• Ed Balls went to a private boys school, then Oxford, then Harvard. Aside from four years as an economics writer for the Financial Times he has only worked in politics , until he got booted out at the last election.
• Andy Burnham has been a trade unionist and in politics all his life.
• Yvette Cooper went to Oxford, Harvard and LSE
• Harriet Harman spent her career in non-profit legal groups before becoming a full time politician back in 1982 and was then joined by her Trade Unionist husband .

Can't be bothered to check out the terrorist sympathisers Corbyn and McDonnell but I'm pretty sure their careers follow a similar trajectory .

Most ordinary working people are employed in the private sector . Life in the free market is pretty simple. Do a good job, make money, and you'll get to come back to work next week. Mess up, you're fired. Working for private companies teaches you something very quickly. If you can't please other people (customers, clients, bosses) then you're going to lose your job. Something Labour and the motley crew above haven't got a clue about .

Corbyn's parents were middle class socialist, big house cushy jobs etc Corbyn left school with minimal exam passes and then failed at University and went into politics.
Not the best prep for running a UK political party, one that he has voted against more times than it's rivals combined, never mind running a country.
On top of this factor in his dubious connections to terror groups and strange bed fellows and you quickly build up a picture of someone who's calling in life is to cause as much disruption and damage to his country of birth as possible.

 

[OnlyOneTugay]

Another sexual harassment accusation , this time right to the top of Corbyn's cadre .

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...party-suspend-sexual-harassment-a8043446.html

Putting the sexual harassment issues to one side for a minute , it does appear that some Labour politicians and their family members see representing "the workers" as some sort of family business - dare I say a gravy train . Prescott family see above , then you have the Kinnocks who made millions out of UK and EU politics , MPs Harman and Dromey the husband and wife team and then there's the dedicated revolutionary ,Corbyn junior , helping out McDonnell.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...our-party-john-mcdonnell-staff-son-seb-corbyn

Makes a bit of a mockery of Corbyn senior's " name blind " recruitment proposal to assist equality of opportunity .

 

[Drog]

Another sexual harassment accusation , this time right to the top of Corbyn's cadre .

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...party-suspend-sexual-harassment-a8043446.html

His serial shagger of a Dad would never have survived nowadays

 

[Benjamin Kaynine]

Not surprising really that resentment and mistrust occurrs when one sees what government bodies do with OUR money.
2008 under one of your heroes the unelected PM and ex chancellor Brown. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2008/oct/10/banking-iceland.
That might have built a few schools and hospitals eh Benjy.

It isn't your money - it's the government's money.

 

[Benjamin Kaynine]

Remember this fella? Little Ed? Everytime he opened his mouth he told fibs. No wonder he had a nasal issue. Claimed to know more than the actual people on zero hours contracts, the Office for National Statistics. Went on to claim that taxation isn't the way forward for the nation. I wonder if Corbyn and MacDonald have seen this interview?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32147715

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Ed Miliband's policies were adopted hook, line and sinker by George Osborne and everything he predicted about the Brexit disaster and the dysfunctional nature of capitalism over the past 30 years is coming true. Clever chap is our Ed.

 

[yoda]

What's this Brexit disaster you refer too ?

 

[OnlyOneTugay]

Just watched Channel 4 News and an emotional and sad interview with the Italian parents of a young women called Gloria Trevison who died in the Grenfell tragedy . An incredibly dignified couple . The loudmouths and squealers who attended the meetings after the tragedy and did themselves no favours in the way they behaved , have much to learn from Mr and Mrs Trevison

 

[Benjamin Kaynine]

Ahh, Grenfell Tower...........80 people dead thanks to systemic failures of unregulated capitalism when right-wing governments take a laissez-faire attitude to public safety because of its ideological fixation with cutting safety regulations (the "elf and safety culture".). For that we can thank the "blessed Margaret".

 

[yoda]

Ahh, Grenfell Tower...........80 people dead thanks to systemic failures of unregulated capitalism when right-wing governments take a laissez-faire attitude to public safety because of its ideological fixation with cutting safety regulations (the "elf and safety culture".). For that we can thank the "blessed Margaret".

There's obviously something in the water in Billington