The real Brexit thread

[Alan]

Exactly Dave. We voted in 75 to go into a common market. No mention then of government by Germany and France via Brussels. No mention of the ludicrous notion of a European army either. That idea is surely based on the US military might protecting us. Something that Donald is getting rather weary of. I suspect his objections against NATO members who don't contribute their share financially might be based on the back of this stupid eu notion.

Absolutely. We voted for a common market, a lowering of trade barriers. There was no remit for a United States of Europe under the guidance of Germany.

 

[Alan]

Bad news for the Eurosceptic right on the Tory backbenches after it was reported this morning that the EU is demanding Britain accept that Northern Ireland may need to remain inside the European customs union and single market after Brexit in order to avoid “a hard border on the island of Ireland”.

The Irish question on Brexit and the problem of the border could bring down this government as the DUP, who are keeping the Tories in power, will resist any attempts at the EU's "all-island" approach that is in direct opposition to the official UK position.

Interesting times ahead - will May have to call an election in the new year ?

Northern Ireland is part of Britain and has stuff all to do with the EU after Brexit. Who do they think they are to tell us what to do with NI?

 

[Drog]

A 'Mexican Wall' should suffice. Lets see if Donald has any concrete left after he's finished his.


Anyway all this messing about with the eu is just daft. All our diplomatic efforts should be on forging new trade relationships with the rest of the world. That way we could take most of the eu moaning right out of then equation as it would give us a strong negotiating position.

 

[Alan]

A 'Mexican Wall' should suffice. Lets see if Donald has any concrete left after he's finished his.


Anyway all this messing about with the eu is just daft. All our diplomatic efforts should be on forging new trade relationships with the rest of the world. That way we could take most of the eu moaning right out of then equation as it would give us a strong negotiating position.

Quit right Gordon. I don't know why we are so worried about a deal with Europe. Only Germany and France are of any consequence and there is all the rest of the world to trade with. Distances are becoming less and less important as time goes on.

 

[Benjamin Kaynine]

Northern Ireland is part of Britain and has stuff all to do with the EU after Brexit. Who do they think they are to tell us what to do with NI?

Unfortunately for your point of view the Republic is very much part of the EU and an open border with NI vital to it staying in the single market and its economic wellbeing (and vice versa). There's also the prospect that a return to a hard border will threaten the peace process and reignite the "Troubles".

On a technical note, Northern Ireland is not part of Britain but is part of the United Kingdom.

Quit right Gordon. I don't know why we are so worried about a deal with Europe. Only Germany and France are of any consequence and there is all the rest of the world to trade with. Distances are becoming less and less important as time goes on.

In 2016 we sent 43% of our exports to Europe - that's a very big chunk we're going to have to replace as "Global Britain". Distance is very important in trade, and will remain so. See the link below.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...-our-own-and-thats-not-a-good-thing-w6w6m5hdb

Anyway all this messing about with the eu is just daft. All our diplomatic efforts should be on forging new trade relationships with the rest of the world. That way we could take most of the eu moaning right out of then equation as it would give us a strong negotiating position.

You're right. It is daft to leave the biggest and richest trading bloc in the world which is on our doorstep.

Also, knowing that we are in a desperate situation please explain why the rest of the world should do us any favours in any future trade deals, which in any case take years and years to negotiate ?

 

[yoda]

Unfortunately for your point of view the Republic is very much part of the EU and an open border with NI vital to it staying in the single market and its economic wellbeing (and vice versa). There's also the prospect that a return to a hard border will threaten the peace process and reignite the "Troubles".

On a technical note, Northern Ireland is not part of Britain but is part of the United Kingdom.



In 2016 we sent 43% of our exports to Europe - that's a very big chunk we're going to have to replace as "Global Britain". Distance is very important in trade, and will remain so. See the link below.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...-our-own-and-thats-not-a-good-thing-w6w6m5hdb



You're right. It is daft to leave the biggest and richest trading bloc in the world which is on our doorstep.

Also, knowing that we are in a desperate situation please explain why the rest of the world should do us any favours in any future trade deals, which in any case take years and years to negotiate ?

It is not the biggest and richest trading block in the world though is it, the USA and China are far bigger.
Trade deals with the Common Wealth and others are already being lined up as you well know.
Technically NI is part of the UK as you say, it won't be long before Ireland leaves the EU though when their contribution costs hit home.
You are still spewing the Marxist's diatribe that you have always honked up John

 

[Alan]

Unfortunately for your point of view the Republic is very much part of the EU and an open border with NI vital to it staying in the single market and its economic wellbeing (and vice versa). There's also the prospect that a return to a hard border will threaten the peace process and reignite the "Troubles".

On a technical note, Northern Ireland is not part of Britain but is part of the United Kingdom.
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That's right "The United Kingdom of Great Britain" and as such the EU cannot dictate what happens to it after Brexit. Any problems it may cause is up to the UK to sort out.

 

[Benjamin Kaynine]

Your lot are just whistling in the dar

It is not the biggest and richest trading block in the world though is it, the USA and China are far bigger.
Trade deals with the Common Wealth and others are already being lined up as you well know.

World Exclusive on Blackburn Rovers football website! USA and China are in trade bloc - please tell Donald Trump at once, I'm sure he'd be delighted !!!!

My name is Chris Marsden; what's yours ?

 

[yoda]

Your lot are just whistling in the dar


World Exclusive on Blackburn Rovers football website! USA and China are in trade bloc - please tell Donald Trump at once, I'm sure he'd be delighted !!!!

My name is Chris Marsden; what's yours ?

Pedantic trot, or are you the ex Prestatyn player

 

[OnlyOneTugay]

https://howmanydaystill.com/its/brexit-6

 

[yoda]

Maybe one of our resident remoaners can explain why this is value for money

http://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...-membership-money-cost-billion-study-research

http://christophereverard.co.uk/the-woman-who-discovered-200-million-missing-from-e-u-accounts/

 

[Alan]

Maybe one of our resident remoaners can explain why this is value for money

http://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...-membership-money-cost-billion-study-research

http://christophereverard.co.uk/the-woman-who-discovered-200-million-missing-from-e-u-accounts/

Wow! Just Wow!

 

[Drog]

It seems Remainers are getting increasingly desperate...... no doubt fuelled by similar desperation in Brussels now that they are losing their milch cow.

http://www.theweek.co.uk/brexit/65461/brexit-is-reversible-says-expert-who-drafted-article-50
Eurocrats hope the deadlock will force British companies to relocate across the Channel, says The Sun, and are “already drawing up plans to exploit Theresa May’s government potentially falling before Christmas”.

The alternative argument might be that once the trade situation with the rest of the world is freed up from endless Brussels red tape that it might well see eu companies moving here.

And now beware cos the Russians are coming......
http://www.theweek.co.uk/brexit/89146/dark-money-did-russia-interfere-in-brexit-vote


Might just be my opinion but the biggest threat to the UK's future economic situation would be the possibility that the Tories are mucking it up so much that Corbyn manages to sneak into No 10! That would start a business exodus away from this country and the £ the likes of which we have never seen!

 

[yoda]

It seems Remainers are getting increasingly desperate...... no doubt fuelled by similar desperation in Brussels now that they are losing their milch cow.

http://www.theweek.co.uk/brexit/65461/brexit-is-reversible-says-expert-who-drafted-article-50
Eurocrats hope the deadlock will force British companies to relocate across the Channel, says The Sun, and are “already drawing up plans to exploit Theresa May’s government potentially falling before Christmas”.

The alternative argument might be that once the trade situation with the rest of the world is freed up from endless Brussels red tape that it might well see eu companies moving here.

And now beware cos the Russians are coming......
http://www.theweek.co.uk/brexit/89146/dark-money-did-russia-interfere-in-brexit-vote


Might just be my opinion but the biggest threat to the UK's future economic situation would be the possibility that the Tories are mucking it up so much that Corbyn manages to sneak into No 10! That would start a business exodus away from this country and the £ the likes of which we have never seen!

I think the spooks will intervene if that gets to close, "get inside the vehicle Mr Corbyn, we are taking you to an official residence"

End off

A major asset we have that the remoaners always over look is the English language

 

[Benjamin Kaynine]

Personally, I'm looking forward to a Jeremy Corbyn-led government, though he is a bit too right wing on many issues for my taste.

A vote for Jeremy is a patriotic vote, because he will be taking back control (copyright: Brexit lies campaign) some of the national assets that used to below to the people of this great country and are now in foreign hands, particularly the utility and infrastructure companies.

Tory incompetence, the housing crisis and the forthcoming Brexit-induced recession are the 3 main factors that will drive Jeremy's election victory.

Jezz we can.

 

[yoda]

Personally, I'm looking forward to a Jeremy Corbyn-led government, though he is a bit too right wing on many issues for my taste.

A vote for Jeremy is a patriotic vote, because he will be taking back control (copyright: Brexit lies campaign) some of the national assets that used to below to the people of this great country and are now in foreign hands, particularly the utility and infrastructure companies.

Tory incompetence, the housing crisis and the forthcoming Brexit-induced recession are the 3 main factors that will drive Jeremy's election victory.

Jezz we can.

Taking back control !

He never had control, to busy cosying up to terrorists

 

[Benjamin Kaynine]

Jeremy was ahead his time talking to the IRA, because it was only by talking to the IRA by the Major, and principally Blair governments, that led to the Good Friday Agreement and end of the Troubles. No one likes having to talk to the enemy or terrorists, but in the end talking is the only way to bring about peace. Ironic, then, that the N Ireland border is potentially the issue that could break Brexit and/or see the reunification of Ireland and a return of the Troubles. A Jeremy Corbyn government and a reunited Ireland - just 2 of the many unintended consequences of the ridiculous referendum vote.

 

[OnlyOneTugay]

Corbyn not only associates himself with IRA terrorists but has friends in Hamas & Hezbollah , Islamic terrorists .

However that's hardly surprising when you consider that a woman called Nasreen Khan is on a shortlist of candidates to stand in a Labour council seat in Bradford .

Miss Khan claimed in 2012 that Jews " have reaped the rewards of playing victims " and that there are " worse people than Hitler in this world "

Khan's views are indistinguishable from those of neo - Nazis . Corbyn leads a party of antisemites & racists . We should all fight to prevent him & his nasty party from leading our great country . We fought a world war to stop this type of ideology .

Am I the only one who felt particularly uncomfortable when I saw Corbyn laying a wreath at the Cenotaph ?

 

[Benjamin Kaynine]

There's only one Nasty Party - patent Theresa May when she was in opposition. As for racists and xenophobes, look no farther than the Brexit campaign, and the right wing wing of the Conservative party.

 

[yoda]

There's only one Nasty Party - patent Theresa May when she was in opposition. As for racists and xenophobes, look no farther than the Brexit campaign, and the right wing wing of the Conservative party.

You are describing the EU, better known as the 4th Reich.

Can't believe you have been brainwashed so effectively, I suppose some types are more susceptible.