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The real Brexit thread
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Benjamin Kaynine
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The Guardian is a good newspaper - obviously left of centre but it provides space for people from the right with an alternative view.
Contrast with the hatemongering Mail, a vile extreme right wing propaganda rag that encouraged public hatred against 3 judges simply for doing their jobs.
As for the Daily Express, it wasn't labelled the Daily Getsworse by Private Eye for nothing. How can anyone take it seriously?
Meanwhile, congratulations to Heidi Allan, Kenneth Clarke, Jonathan Djanogy, Vicky Ford, Dominic Grieve, Stephen Hammond, Oliver Heald, Jeremy Lefroy, Paul Masterton, Nicky Morgan, Bob Neill, Antoinette Sandback, Anna Soubry, Tom Tugendhat, and Sarah Wollaston.
All Conservative MPs with the gumption to stand up to the hard right Brexit nutcases in their party and who are prepared to put the interests of the nation above the narrow party political interests of the Tory party.
Brilliant Ben your best joke to date, left of center hahahhaha superb.
Face it the guardian is as left as the mail is right. Anyone reading either is either one side of the divide already or need to take each with a big dose of salt.
Still laughing at left of center.....
Whilst the Guardian is accepted as left of centre and basically reflects views of the Labour Party (and what is laughably and completely outdatedly still described as the 'working class' opinion) I always get the feeling when reading it that the collection of journo's and reporters will never have earned an honest callous on their hands in their lives. The types who if presented with a pick and a shovel would require detailed instructions on how to use them. Is it just me that thinks that?
I must add that when I used to provide a Blackburn Rovers Fan's view for the Observer over the phone at 5.00-5.30 on match day Saturdays that they gave a firm "we can't print that" and didn't publish my opinion expressed one week after a typically inept display that there must be negative racism being practised by the FA as there simply must be many better and more capable referees across the length and breadth of the land than Uriah Rennie, and that he was probably just on the Ref list as a token. "Kick out racism" obviously being a rather hollow message if the FA couldn't find a top line referee from a black / minority group.
So much for honest comment eh?
I must add that when I used to provide a Blackburn Rovers Fan's view for the Observer over the phone at 5.00-5.30 on match day Saturdays that they gave a firm "we can't print that" and didn't publish my opinion expressed one week after a typically inept display that there must be negative racism being practised by the FA as there simply must be many better and more capable referees across the length and breadth of the land than Uriah Rennie, and that he was probably just on the Ref list as a token. "Kick out racism" obviously being a rather hollow message if the FA couldn't find a top line referee from a black / minority group.
So much for honest comment eh?
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That is one of the major effects that I want from Brexit. The ability to make our own laws and ignore the EU directives.
Benjamin Kaynine
Senior Member
Yes, it'll be a car crash but at least we'll be at the wheel.
Better than the train crash that the EU is heading for at a rate of knots!
OnlyOneTugay
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Well cor blimey , I'm constantly told I now live in this racist and xenophobic country ( mainly , but not exclusively , by the BBC and EU fundamentalists ) and yet despite all this racism and xenophobia ( much of it coming from Corbyn's really nasty party - yes I won't forget you Dent Coad, even if the lefties and liberals dare not speak your name ) , the number of EU citizens who chose to come and work in the Britain rose to a record high in the year after the leave referendum. Despite fears of a " Brexodus " 2.7 million migrants from EU states were employed between July and September , an increase of 112,000 on the same period last year.
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Benjamin Kaynine
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The eurozone economy is motoring ahead very nicely while ours has sunk close to the bottom of the EU28 economies, with only Italy (marginally) below it.
Britain's level of inequality is among the highest in Europe. Pay at the top has exploded upwards: 30 years ago, company chief executives were paid on average about 20 times the salary of the average worker. The ratio is now about 150 times.
Average productivity per hours worked is among the lowest among high-income countries and last, but not least, on this list of failings, investment is exceptionally weak by the standards of comparable countries and fallen as a share of GDP for three decades. Spending on research and development is also weak.
This is not a vigorous and healthy economy able to take the shock of substantially worse access to its most important markets (the EU). It is absurd to suggest otherwise.
Britain has embarked on a risky voyage in a leaky boat. The Brexit shock, combined with Britain's underlying weaknesses, is likely to make it a shipwreck
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yoda
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Complete bullstein and a blatant disregard for actual facts
Benjamin Kaynine
Senior Member
I've done a fair bit of reading and research. What's not correct?
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ABBEY
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Feck growing up pal
I've got to agree Benjamin, falling standards of business and service industry are appalling. Trying to contact any business by phone is a nightmare. No bugger wants your business it seems these days. "Press button 1,2,3,4" leading inevitably to "You are in a queue, our operators are very busy and will answer your call shortly" . When you finally get through they want all your personal details for no good reason and won't give you theirs.
Biggest culprits are the bloody communications companies themselves! Trying to speak to someone at BT is a 30 minute occupation whilst the likes of Vodafone etc seem intent on keeping contact phone numbers secret! No bugger want's to pick the phone up it seems. It's bloody appalling and tbh I blame a lot of this on the social attitudes and the changes in business and employment procedures which have occurred since we have been dictated to by Brussels.
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What's that?
yoda
Senior Member
That's the bill that cancels our membership of the EU by repealing our entrapment of EU regulations
Benjamin Kaynine
Senior Member
You were doing very well until you got to this point. Poor business practices have nothing to do with the EU. Blame cost-cutting, not enough staff, lack of investment, poor and in many cases no training at all (a British problem for decades), cavalier attitude to customer service (another UK trait), but above all, bloody awful management (a problem from the bottom right to the very top of British life, including football).
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Cheers
yoda
Senior Member
People like benjy can't grasp what progress actually means, they prefer to bring everyone down to the lowest common denominatorYou have it your way Benjamin, and I'll have it mine. Over the course of time and as always you'll be proven to be wrong and I'll be proven to be right.
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