The real Brexit thread

[Benjamin Kaynine]

You have it your way Benjamin, and I'll have it mine. Over the course of time and as always you'll be proven to be wrong and I'll be proven to be right.

So when we're out of the EU, and it's the same old problems, the same old rubbish, and nothing's different except it's even worse because the country's that much poorer, who are you going to blame then ?

 

[yoda]

This one of the country's that you keep quoting as a beacon of the EU

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/880429/nantes-france-riots-protest-macron-reforms

 

[OnlyOneTugay]

Whilst the Guardian is accepted as left of centre and basically reflects views of the Labour Party (and what is laughably and completely outdatedly still described as the 'working class' opinion) I always get the feeling when reading it that the collection of journo's and reporters will never have earned an honest callous on their hands in their lives. The types who if presented with a pick and a shovel would require detailed instructions on how to use them. Is it just me that thinks that?

I must add that when I used to provide a Blackburn Rovers Fan's view for the Observer over the phone at 5.00-5.30 on match day Saturdays that they gave a firm "we can't print that" and didn't publish my opinion expressed one week after a typically inept display that there must be negative racism being practised by the FA as there simply must be many better and more capable referees across the length and breadth of the land than Uriah Rennie, and that he was probably just on the Ref list as a token. "Kick out racism" obviously being a rather hollow message if the FA couldn't find a top line referee from a black / minority group.
So much for honest comment eh?

As far as Guardian writers are concerned I can’t say I know enough about them to pass an opinion. I watched QT two weeks ago and there was a pipsqueak on the panel who I later discovered was the Guardian journalist , Aditya Chakrabortty. Should have known really because the first thing he came out with was rhetoric about how the Conservatives are murdering this , that and the other type of benefit claimant . He was totally destroyed by a member of the audience and from thereonin , his passion for mock outrage was extinguished. He squealed a bit as the lefties tend to, but thankfully as the show went on he became more and more anonymous.

As far as their readership’s concerned , in terms of national newspaper circulation , relatively few people read the Guardian these days . What is it about 130,00 a day ? Generally they are the left wing intelligentsia set and specifically I tend to think they fall into 3 categories :

1) Champagne Socialists

2) Bleeding Heart Liberals

3) Middle Class Marxists

A typical Guardian reader in the news recently ? Probably , the racist Emma Dent Coad, Labour MP

Born in Chelsea with a privileged upbringing. Father was a professor , mother a vicar’s daughter. she graduated the Royal College of Art in 1992 with an MA in History of Design. Lives in North Kensington , which Wikipedia describes as exclusive and upmarket.

She appears to dislike the royal family. She claimed that Prince Harry a qualified Apache helicopter pilot, could not fly a helicopter, but said that she did not have any evidence for her assertion. This statement was later found to be demonstrably false. She clarified later that her remarks had been "a joke" which had been "taken the wrong way "

I guess like most of her type she hates the UK and patriotism, but supports or has sympathy with Scottish Nationalism. It’s recently been discovered that in a letter to the Guardian ( where else !) she wrote that explicit sex manuals could be given to 13 year olds to help them embrace the joys of sex

A true working class hero, a Corbynista and your typical Guardian reader and contributor

Oh and to keep the post on topic, she's a Remainer - surprise , surprise .

 

[Drog]

And true to form like most of her ilk she's plug ugly too. She needs a hairdresser, a clothes shopper and someone to show her how to use make up* before she can command any respect.

*Maybe she could use Andy Burnham's.

 

[OnlyOneTugay]

Careful Drog , we don't want you and Chris ( aka Benjamin) to start another pageant of left and right leaning political "beauties "

 

[Benjamin Kaynine]

No sooner said than done.

I think thenodrug is right about smelly, ugly Labour MPs. Here are 2 Conservative beauties that are obviously his vision of female loveliness.

 

[Drog]

Maybe Benjamin but at least they look like they wash.

 

[ABBEY]

Do they ?

 

[Benjamin Kaynine]

So that's the EBA and EMA out of the door, to Paris and Amsterdam respectively, to be followed by many more.

Can one of the Brexitards who write on these pages please provide a good reason why this exodus of "experts" is good news, and also explain how this is "taking back control"?

 

[yoda]

So that's the EBA and EMA out of the door, to Paris and Amsterdam respectively, to be followed by many more.

Can one of the Brexitards who write on these pages please provide a good reason why this exodus of "experts" is good news, and also explain how this is "taking back control"?

Is a Brexitard the opposite of a Leftard ?

here is just one of thousands of good reasons to leave the 4th Reich

http://newsbison.info/2017/11/20/al...-predicts-eu-will-collapse-members-follow-uk/

 

[Benjamin Kaynine]

Quoting Grease-Moog ? Excuse me while I

 

[yoda]

Quoting Grease-Moog ? Excuse me while I

Nice side step, was the question too difficult for you ?

 

[yoda]

While Bejamin is working out a rhetoric laden answer the rest of us can have a chuckle on this

Mr Dave Davis is at the golf club returning his locker key when Mr Barnier, the membership secretary sees him.

“Hello Mr Davis”, says Mr Barnier. "I'm sorry to hear you are no longer renewing your club membership, if you would like to come to my office we can settle your account".
“I have settled my bar bill” says Mr Davis.
“Ah yes Mr Davis”, says Mr Barnier, “but there are other matters that need settlement.”

In Mr Barniers office -
Mr Davis explains that he has settled his bar bill so wonders what else he can possibly owe the Golf Club?

“Well Mr Davis” begins Mr Barnier, “you did agree to buy one of our Club Jackets”.

“Yes” agrees Mr Davis "I did agree to buy a jacket but I haven't received it yet". “As soon as you supply the jacket I will send you a cheque for the full amount”.

“That will not be possible” explains Mr Barnier. “As you are no longer a club member you will not be entitled to buy one of our jackets”!

“But you still want me to pay for it” exclaims Mr Davis.

“Yes” says Mr Barnier, "That will be £500 for the jacket. “There is also your bar bill”.

"But I've already settled my bar bill" says Mr Davis.

“Yes” says Mr Barnier, "but as you can appreciate, we need to place our orders from the Brewery in advance to ensure our bar is properly stocked. You regularly used to spend at least £50 a week in the bar so we have placed orders with the brewery accordingly for the coming year". "You therefore owe us £2600 for the year".

"Will you still allow me to have these drinks?" asks Mr Davis.
“No of course not Mr Davis”. "You are no longer a club member!" says Mr Barnier.

“Next is your restaurant bill” continues Mr Barnier. "In the same manner we have to make arrangements in advance with our catering suppliers.Your average restaurant bill was in the order of £300 a month, so we'll require payment of £3600 for the next year".
"I don't suppose you'll be letting me have these meals either" asks Mr Davis.
“No, of course not" says an irritated Mr Barnier, "you are no longer a club member!”

“Then of course” Mr Barnier continues, “there are repairs to the clubhouse roof”
“Clubhouse roof” exclaims Mr Davis, "What's that got to do with me?"

"Well, it still needs to be repaired and the builders are coming in next week, your share of the bill is £2000".

“I see” says Mr Davis, "anything else?"

“Now you mention it” says Mr Barnier, “there is Fred the Barman's pension. We would like you to pay £5 a week towards Fred's pension when he retires next month". "He's not well you know so I doubt we'll need to ask you for payment for longer than about five years, so £1300 should do it".
"This brings your total bill to £10,000" says Mr Barnier.
“Let me get this straight” says Mr Davis, "you want me to pay £500 for a jacket you won't let me have, £2600 for beverages you won't let me drink and £3600 for food you won't let me eat, all under a roof I won't be allowed under and not served by a bloke who's going to retire next month!"
"Yes, it's all perfectly clear and quite reasonable" says Mr Barnier.
"Piss off!" says Mr Davis

Now that is what Brexit and the EU's/4th Reich's attempted extortion is all about!!!!!

 

[yoda]

More good news going forward

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...-royal-commonwealth-society-opensmississippi/

 

[OnlyOneTugay]

So that's the EBA and EMA out of the door, to Paris and Amsterdam respectively, to be followed by many more.

Can one of the Brexitards who write on these pages please provide a good reason why this exodus of "experts" is good news, and also explain how this is "taking back control"?

Don’t have an orgasm Chris just because a couple of EU funded quangos are moving out of an overpopulated , overpriced & overhyped city . Remember the UK is creating jobs like never before , with record numbers in employment & record low numbers of unemployed . I’m sure these experts, being highly paid , highly pensioned public sector workers , will find jobs in the private sector if they are any good . They can then start creating some real wealth .

Yes we are going to take back control and secretly you know it. Embrace democracy, the British people have spoken . The EU is now on the run & Die Mutter , the Remainers’ pin up girl is on the ropes and ready to bow out . What then for the failing project ? Macron ? Now that would be hilarious !

 

[Benjamin Kaynine]

Brexit will be coming to a town near you very soon. I agree anything that weakens London is welcome but Prof Minford said it was likely to wipe out manufacturing too - so the north is going to suffer.

I'm very glad that we will be taking back control.....under Jeremy Corbyn. I'm looking forward to taking back control of our railway lines, gas pipes, electricity systems, nuclear power, water companies and above all our NHS, out of the hands of the filthy "wealth creators" who have drained them of cash and resources in order to feed greedy shareholders and boardroom directors.

The tax evading and avoiding "wealth creators" are on notice....Jeremy and the HMRC are coming to get you

 

[ABBEY]

aye and terrorists will be left alone.

 

[Drog]

Imported more like.


btw BenJIMin
I'd hardly say that Prof Minford has been consistent with his views has he? His opinion has suffered more reversals than the Italian army! Not only that but he appears at odds with much other considered opinion. Like the rest of us all the best comment that I can apply to him is that he is taking a stab in the dark.

 

[OnlyOneTugay]

On the other hand Professor Minford said that a hard brexit and the removal of all trade tariffs and barriers would help generate an annual £135bn uplift to the UK economy .

On that basis or any basis for that matter we have far less to fear from Brexit coming to town then Corbyn.

That really would be the doomsday scenario . Communist led Trade Unions , strikes a plenty , rampant inflation , double digit interest rates , power cuts , rubbish piling up in the streets , pickets outside maternity wards , power cuts , bodies not being buried .

I bet Corbyn won't read these out at Prime Ministers Question Time :

" Three-day weeks, candles at night, cold dinners, and power cuts and all because of what? A union who used that decided to hold the country to ransom. Strikes seem to be the only thing on the news back then " Gavin - Essex

"I don't remember it myself, but I was born in 1979 in Swansea, South Wales. My mother had to cross a picket line to get into the maternity hospital (they told her she couldn't come in, her response is unprintable....) " Richard - London

" The main effect of the drivers' strike was lack of fuel delivery. My own school had to close and only those taking exams that summer were educated. We were taught in the science block using Bunsen burners as heaters, which kept us warm, but incredibly drowsy " Matthew - Stevenage

" As a 10-year-old in 1978 I remember the piles of garbage piled up in our local recreation ground in Stanmore (a council estate in a posh part of the UK) Winchester. The piles of rotten waste became our playground, well it always was our playground so we continued to play on the soccer pitch, rather than kicking a ball but investigating all the crap spilling out of the bags! I was lucky enough to find a whole bag of used syringes " Slick - NSW

"I don't remember all the political chaos, but I do remember playing Scrabble by candlelight and the fact that we couldn't bury my deceased grandfather. My mother never forgave Labour or the trade unions for that " Carl - Antalya

"Trafalgar Square was a mountain of black garbage bags twitching with rats " JD - London

Ahhh - the good old days of the communist led trade unions , socialism and those nationalised industries whose " public servants " constantly went on strike for the good of the people . I'm guessing you were just a twinkle in your Dad's eye in the late 1970's Chris, but for those of us that had to live and work through this hell , we'll never forget it .

After 40 years of economic success ( your words not mine ) you want to swap it all for that ? I respect your views Chris but I'm beginning to question your sanity

 

[blueandwhitehalves]

I'm starting to wonder what would have happened to Jim without this site. His total migration from brfcs to here just to follow the people he can have the most arguments with strikes me as the behaviour of someone with obsessive-compulsive disorder. I wonder if, in the period right after we left, anyone found him wandering confused on Pendle Hill in his slippers or shouting at a gatepost for being a secret Tory sympathiser.