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The real Brexit thread

Benjamin Kaynine

Senior Member
Because it's a 'them and us' situation.
I'm sure that you have heard of the popular socialist mantra 'United we stand, divided we fall' so why are you electing to abandon it just to suit your current agenda?
.....because in my "patriotic" opinion, we are better off economically, socially and from a global standpoint, in the EU.
 

Drog

Administrator
Staff member
Hmmm a bit like Oswald Mosley's Black Shirts in the 30's then?
 
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Benjamin Kaynine

Senior Member
Well, there you have it. 50 billion and counting, just to get the talks proper started. That's an awful lot of money that could have been spent on the NHS.

The Brexiteers told us it would all be so easy. “They need us more than we need them”. “Go whistle”. “We can have our cake and eat it too”. Then nations like the US, Australia, Japan and a raft of others tell us we can’t have our cake and eat it with them either.

Friends like Ireland turned into enemies. The plot to turn Britain into a paradise for the rich finally revealed.

Brexit, a great lie sold by a rampart of rogues. And you all took it in.
 

chor808

Senior Member
Well, there you have it. 50 billion and counting, just to get the talks proper started. That's an awful lot of money that could have been spent on the NHS.

The Brexiteers told us it would all be so easy. “They need us more than we need them”. “Go whistle”. “We can have our cake and eat it too”. Then nations like the US, Australia, Japan and a raft of others tell us we can’t have our cake and eat it with them either.

Friends like Ireland turned into enemies. The plot to turn Britain into a paradise for the rich finally revealed.

Brexit, a great lie sold by a rampart of rogues. And you all took it in.
I think we all knew were the figure would end up, I remember 100 billion from the EU, zero from us. Well what a shock it ends up in the middle! Nothing official of course but it sounds like we are paying, rightly, what we have signed up to and pensions etc going on for another 40 years. So 50 billion over 40 years. Now we pay in a little over 13.1 billion a year and get back about 4.5 billion so a net of about 8.6 billion. If it stayed that way and without inflation that would be net about 344 billion. That's an awful lot of money to spend on the NHS.

Looks like a great deal to me.


The EU, a great lie sold by a rampart of rogues. And you took it in
 

yoda

Senior Member
I think we all knew were the figure would end up, I remember 100 billion from the EU, zero from us. Well what a shock it ends up in the middle! Nothing official of course but it sounds like we are paying, rightly, what we have signed up to and pensions etc going on for another 40 years. So 50 billion over 40 years. Now we pay in a little over 13.1 billion a year and get back about 4.5 billion so a net of about 8.6 billion. If it stayed that way and without inflation that would be net about 344 billion. That's an awful lot of money to spend on the NHS.

Looks like a great deal to me.


The EU, a great lie sold by a rampart of rogues. And you took it in

The fat lady hasn't sung yet John
 

Drog

Administrator
Staff member
Well, there you have it. 50 billion and counting, just to get the talks proper started. That's an awful lot of money that could have been spent on the NHS.

The Brexiteers told us it would all be so easy. “They need us more than we need them”. “Go whistle”. “We can have our cake and eat it too”. Then nations like the US, Australia, Japan and a raft of others tell us we can’t have our cake and eat it with them either.

Friends like Ireland turned into enemies. The plot to turn Britain into a paradise for the rich finally revealed.

Brexit, a great lie sold by a rampart of rogues. And you all took it in.
50m Divorce Bill?!!!!!! Pretty sure that we have a good case to cite 'unreasonable behaviour' and get out owing nowt. Seems most other divorces end that way and in this case it's certainly true.
 

Benjamin Kaynine

Senior Member
50m Divorce Bill?!!!!!! Pretty sure that we have a good case to cite 'unreasonable behaviour' and get out owing nowt. Seems most other divorces end that way and in this case it's certainly true.
I'm sure the UK would be very happy with 50 million !

Latest news today: BoE governor Mark Carney has said the EU's cap on bankers' bonuses could be lifted post-Brexit.

Did you vote for higher bonuses for bankers? Or, rather, were you aware that you did?

"Brexit was all for the little guy in Blackburn and Burnley", the bankers laugh, as they drink champagne in their club.

Chris
 

Drog

Administrator
Staff member
Who cares? If the remuneration is better in the UK then the Financial sector which is our big earner (and which you are hoping leaves these shores just so you can say 'I told you so') should be safe shouldn't it?
 

Benjamin Kaynine

Senior Member
Who cares? If the remuneration is better in the UK then the Financial sector which is our big earner (and which you are hoping leaves these shores just so you can say 'I told you so') should be safe shouldn't it?
You ought to care.

Taxpayers bailed out bankers after they bankrupted the country in 2008, to the tune of hundreds of billions of pounds. Few if any of them went to jail.

Now Carney says they're being let off the leash again, at a cost of another 50 billion or so as we leave the EU.

Meanwhile, the rest of us are heading for the worst living standards in generations.

When the next bank bailout is called, which sector do you think will get the billions? You're being exploited and taken for a ride - and you can't see it.

Chris
 

yoda

Senior Member
You ought to care.

Taxpayers bailed out bankers after they bankrupted the country in 2008, to the tune of hundreds of billions of pounds. Few if any of them went to jail.

Now Carney says they're being let off the leash again, at a cost of another 50 billion or so as we leave the EU.

Meanwhile, the rest of us are heading for the worst living standards in generations.

When the next bank bailout is called, which sector do you think will get the billions? You're being exploited and taken for a ride - and you can't see it.

Chris
You mean they nearly bankrupted the country after Brown gave them free reign to do so,

It's not often you are right John, but you are wrong this time
https://www.express.co.uk/news/poli...ain-can-survive-EU-Brexit-no-deal-admits-BofE

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-5119081/City-paid-record-72bn-taxes-year.html
 
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chor808

Senior Member
Utter rubbish from the BBC the headline should be 'Despite Brexit, Factory activity accelerated in November, survey says', don't they read their memo's :)

However they did manage to get Brexit in there, a lot.

'The UK voted to leave the European Union in June 2016, but economists say that vote probably did not have much affect on these figures.'

Now, every time they are bad figures it is directly Brexit's fault. What a joke.
 

Benjamin Kaynine

Senior Member
Pickup in manufacturing output is a global phenomenon.


https://www.ft.com/content/a68684aa-d67f-11e7-8c9a-d9c0a5c8d5c9


Quote in the middle of the piece points to continuing UK under-performance compared to Europe.


“Good news from latest UK manufacturing PMI,” said Julian Jessop, chief economist and head of the Brexit unit at the Institute of Economic Affairs. “But only fair to point out that the comparable eurozone data are even stronger.”

Chris
 

Drog

Administrator
Staff member
All these cry baby Remainers are doing is aiding the negotiating position of the other side and weakening ours. The Enemy within and the modern day equivalent of the German loving Oswald Mosely's Black shirts.
 

Benjamin Kaynine

Senior Member
All these cry baby Remainers are doing is aiding the negotiating position of the other side and weakening ours. The Enemy within and the modern day equivalent of the German loving Oswald Mosely's Black shirts.

The patriotic card again - please explain.
 
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