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Bristol City. (H) Saturday, 3 September 2022.

steve w

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He was the same at Blackpool. JDT must be bonkers playing him at RB.
Its not just that he is awful at RB - His body language (as captain) is not good

I will post this now
BBD is going to be the millstone around the teams and JDTs neck that Rothwell was last season (especially after Xmas) - He should have gone even if had been for £5/6m - I would play him fom the bench.
I cannot understand the substitutions today, unless both were injured?

As others have posted - the result flatters us
 

blueandwhitehalves

Senior Member
I thought BBD was only giving 75% vs Blackpool too. He made 1 good track back late on in the game, and people saw that as representing a good shift for some reason. I understood it then though, he thought he might be on the move the next day. Today though I was expecting him back to his best, here for 1 more season to destroy a Championship he should be too good for, pay Rovers back for our years of patience with him, maintain his form for his next team, and then collect his new bumper contract in the summer.

The only thing I would say is it makes little sense to me to be playing a 6 foot striker with no pace but a lethal finish on the wing of a front 3, stick him down the centre!
 

Barmitzvah Boy

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The morning after that shocker of a game. I don’t know what to say; I can’t work out what has gone wrong in these last two home games.

In the earlier games JDT was calling the team over and coaching them at every opportunity but these last two games he just stands their or sits down in a huff. There does appear to be a disconnect between JDT and the players. I hope I am wrong.
 

Dunnfc

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The morning after that shocker of a game. I don’t know what to say; I can’t work out what has gone wrong in these last two home games.

In the earlier games JDT was calling the team over and coaching them at every opportunity but these last two games he just stands their or sits down in a huff. There does appear to be a disconnect between JDT and the players. I hope I am wrong.
I noticed it the other week, the players are not buying in to him and the crap football. Sorry but JDT will be gone by xmas.
 

AllRoverAsia

Senior Member
Wharton and Morton are both good footballers who should develop into top class players.

However they are 18and 19 years of age, inexperienced and at the start of their careers.

They will as they develop as footballers and grow physically have up and down performances. In cannot be a plan to use these 2 lightweights, physically, as a CM pairing over any protracted period of time, not in the Championship.

I appreciate that Brittain is injured. In his absence put Buckley at RB and move Travis back into midfield. I am not that big a fan of the limited Travis but at least the opposition will know he is there.

This could have been avoided for the cost of a few quid by giving Nyambe a wage and contract that his previous talent, experience and time at Rovers deserved instead of keeping him in a wage system that has penalised academy products.

Yesterday's subs were unfathomable, not a friggin clue what team management were up to.

Edun as a late sub. FFS.
 

Drog

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Anybody at Ewood yesterday will be aware that the score line flattered the rovers. Bristol under Nigel Pearson rather reminded me of some early season defeats in the past which ultimately saw our conquerors promoted. Norwich City outclassed us 1-4 in the opening fixture 2016 and most had them as favourites for promotion, Sheff Utd came and played us off the park in Oct 2018 in their promotion season, Huddersfield arrived in Oct 19 and after a 2-2 draw I tipped them for promotion which they duly achieved. My only fail was in tipping Barnsley under Wagner to go up when they ultimately lost out in the play offs. If Bristol are not in the top six come May I'll be surprised.

City played as a team whereas the rovers were disjointed and looked like a collection of individuals. Hirst in his last act before making way for Jack Vale flew down the right wing and played a cracking low ball across the penalty area similar to a cross he did earlier in the match which Dack just failed to convert, I had been screaming for someone to get in the box but no one did and the opening was wasted. Good teams don’t do that do they? Similarly for City’s two opening goals I was screaming for the defenders to get back goal side of their opposite numbers, they didn’t and we were 0-2 down. Good teams don’t defend like that either do they?

Now the new look BRFC do worry me. Why don’t we start to play until after half time? We got away with it v QPR, Swansea, WBA and Blackpool but you can’t do that and expect a good result against the likes of Sheff Utd and Bristol. Even worse when we were getting torn apart down the wings JDT seemed to be unaware of the danger and unable to alter things. Travis had a mare all the match and Pickering struggled in that first half as Bristol attacked down both wings. Both were up against two for most of the time with Hedges and Brereton ambling around on the half way line. Travis gave Hedges a right old rollocking after being skinned by two attackers with Hedges looking on from afar. In the middle Wednesday nights heroes Morton and Wharton were swamped and looking like what they are, talented but very young and inexperienced. In truth Bristol could have been out of sight by HT. Credit to Kaminsky, Cater and Hyam that they weren’t. Fair enough the defence has been ravaged by one injury after another with three out of four first choice players in the treatment room rather than the training pitches.

The Rovers fans for whatever reason have been waiting for players to come in all summer with the club only really acting to top up the squad after the season has started and 7 matches have been played. Compare our transfer activity to that of Pearson’s here.

Championship: Transfer ins and outs - Summer 2022 - Sports Mole

It’s pertinent that all Bristol’s recruits were frees and signed in the close season giving the squad time to familiarise themselves with their teammates whilst JDT was still unpacking his suitcase.

Btw Check out the link above and it reveals that only two clubs in the entire Championship namely Hull and Sunderland have had more incomings than outgoings. There must be lots of players in the lower divisions out of work and wondering how to pay their bills. Agents and Football administrators should all hang their heads in shame.


Kaminsky… 7 Could do nothing about the goals and kept the Rovers in the game.

Travis… 4 Nothing Trav did either on the ball or off it came off yesterday. Not helped by an inexperienced midfield and attackers failing to track their men. Bristol’s 1st was headed on his back post which he failed to get near and he cantered back instead of sprinting as Wells notched Bristol’s second goal. A match to forget.

Carter… 6 Stood strong against Bristol but our old foe Nahki Wells at 32 new too much for him. How many goals has that bugger scored against us? Carter foolishly gave the ball away with a poorly thought out attempted pass to Pickering which could easily have cost another goal. Inexperience again. Played a horrific long ball in the last seconds as the Rovers were pressing for an equaliser to effectively end the match.

Hyam…6 Has played OK in his two matches for us. Should get better as he builds an understanding with those around him but I still expect him and Carter to be benched as soon as Wharton and Ayala return to fitness.

Pickering… 6 Struggled to contain Bristol as BBD now seems to think he is the Championships Ronaldo and fails to track back when needed. Scouts and Managers will see all these things and it may explain partly why he is still a Rovers player.

Morton… 5 Poor match yesterday as most of Bristol’s tactics were to attack down the flanks.

Wharton A… 6 Tried hard but see above re: Morton. Failed to match Wells pace for the second goal.
*Much is being made of these two lads but they were outclassed yesterday by City's No7 Scott, another 19 year old. Keep an eye on him.

Hedges… 4 Not enough effort but did provide a comical moment when he deflected the keepers save from Dack with his face onto the ground with enough force to then bounce over the goal. That is something that never happened on the pitches of old!

Hirst.. 6 Showed glimpses of what he can do but again his ‘newness’ stood out. Looks like he has plenty of pace.

Dack… 6 Always involved and does seem to be gradually getting back to the Dack of old. Who knows how the match would have gone if he’d converted his big chance from Hirst’s cross with the match at 0-0.

Brereton Diaz… 5 A lazy display accompanied by much poor control until…. He scored in the 93rd minute! Another sharp finish and another goal chalked alongside his name but too little too late. He lost possession cheaply and without a fight which began the build up for Bristol’s opening goal and later even worse, he allowed Wells to run past him and score the crucial 3rd ‘killer’ goal whilst he was standing still just ball watching.

Subs

Buckley… 6 (Dack 45) Helped to get the Rovers back on the front foot but still not catching the eye as he did last season.

Dolan… 8 (Hedges 45) Can always be relied on to put in plenty of effort. Suits the role of sub as he comes on and immediately gets defenders on the back foot. Unlucky with a howitzer of a shot well saved by Bentley but got his reward with a sharp finish from Edun’s pass to make it 2-1. Unfortunately that score lasted just two minutes before Wells made it 3-1 and preventing the Rovers from building up a head of steam. A goal plus a 93rd minute assist for BBD for his efforts.
For some reason there are whispers about Dolan not being good enough starting to gather momentum in the age old Ewood tradition of looking for a fall guy on the pitch. I hope this is snuffed out before it becomes an issue. Of course he is good enough… ask Nigel Pearson! His defenders kicked Dolan from pillar to post yesterday showing just how much of a threat he posed to them and with just about our entire attacks emanating from him in that second half hopefully most will see why.

Vale… 6 (Hirst 61) Needs to score a couple or the crowd will get at him too. Looks to be interchangeable with Hirst.

Edun 6 (Wharton 69) Immediate impact with an assist for Dolan’s goal wihin 2 minutes of coming on.


JDT… 3 Needs to improve his tactics and do his homework on upcoming opponents. Bristol had clearly done more to counter us and our tactics than we had on them. Odd cos I always thought this was a must on the continent. Surrendering ground as we do in our own half in the first 45 minutes of matches is unacceptable at any level let alone the Championship. Also failed to recognise and nullify Bristol’s tactics to attack us down the flanks. He might be better looking than Tony Mowbray but his team isn’t!

Referee Tim Robinson.. 5 One of the better Refs imo but a little too yellow card happy. Having said that why he didn’t book Atkinson for a crude challenge on Dolan I don’t understand as Bristol were turning to the dark arts to protect their advantage. I’d have given him a point more except for the free kick he awarded which led directly to their 3rd goal. BBD’s ‘offence’ being no more than a mere shoulder charge.
 

Barmitzvah Boy

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Good review Drog. Did you see the incident in the 1st half when Hirst missed an open goal about 3m out when he tried to hit it with his ‘wrong’ foot and sliced it? One of the misses of the season.
 

Dunnfc

Senior Member
Good review Drog. Did you see the incident in the 1st half when Hirst missed an open goal about 3m out when he tried to hit it with his ‘wrong’ foot and sliced it? One of the misses of the season.
He looks okay, can't say I agree about him having pace, I thought he looked a bit slow.
 

tonygreenbank

Senior Member
Some fans are saying that Hedges turned his ankle in the warm up so wasn’t very effective hence taken off at half time. Makes you wonder why he started.
The Championship really is very difficult to predict and I do wonder how much JDT really knows about the teams and systems we face.
Nigel Pearson is very experienced in this league and he overwhelmed JDT. I’d like to know what Lowe, Benson and Johnson are doing to educate him about the clubs we’re facing.
Presumably last season they were Mowbray’s advisors as well as his own ideas.
Does JDT know the strengths and weaknesses of Wigan next Saturday? I sincerely hope he and his team are preparing well enough.
 

steve w

Senior Member
I'm certainly getting an impression of naivety in our new manager.
Got to agree there
Bristol were obviously drilled on not letting our new play makers - play!
The championship is very unforgiving and Pearson is a good manager (though clearly a strange character ) What he achieved at Leicester was amazing
 

Andreas Dei.

Active Member
Some fans are saying that Hedges turned his ankle in the warm up so wasn’t very effective hence taken off at half time. Makes you wonder why he started.
The Championship really is very difficult to predict and I do wonder how much JDT really knows about the teams and systems we face.
Nigel Pearson is very experienced in this league and he overwhelmed JDT. I’d like to know what Lowe, Benson and Johnson are doing to educate him about the clubs we’re facing.
A very good point, imo, @tonygreenbank
Presumably last season they were Mowbray’s advisors as well as his own ideas.
Does JDT know the strengths and weaknesses of Wigan next Saturday? I sincerely hope he and his team are preparing well enough.
I hope they are, too; surely that's one of the reasons they were kept on board after Mowbray had cleared his desk. But let's not forget that, right from the start, JDT's language has been of a steady progress, such as would be made from "a project", rather than the sort of instant gratification Uncle Jack provided in the early years of the Premiership.
 

Drog

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Mowbray was making steady progress Ona limited budget and got potted for his efforts.
 

Drog

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Indeed so odb..... but only so long as the change is for the better and not simply change for changes sake, which I strongly suspect it was.
 

Drog

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How so? We finished in a better position in the championship every year.
 
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