1SimonGarner
Senior Member
are we indeed punching well above our weight? The tables below list the positions of all 92 league clubs in both annual wage bills and average home attendances, both very good indicators of the size and financial power of a football club. Most clubs are within 5-10 places in the football pyramid that you would expect when you take these two things into account, some as you'll see are over achieving quite a bit - including The Rovers - and some are inevitably under achieving.
Rovers, out of the 92 league clubs, are currently joint 3rd with Brentford in the over achieving table, sitting 19 places above where the club realistically should expect to be with the crowds we get and the wages we can offer - which should be an indicator as to the class of player you have and can recruit.
Anyway it made interesting reading to me and maybe shows just how difficult a job any new manager has in getting the club to live up to the fans expectations of where we are as a club. The Walker years were great, the 20 years before and the 20 or so years since, Blackburn Rovers was and is a drastically different football club. As BAWH always bangs on about, maybe it's about time a large proportion of our fan base came to terms with it.
Rovers, out of the 92 league clubs, are currently joint 3rd with Brentford in the over achieving table, sitting 19 places above where the club realistically should expect to be with the crowds we get and the wages we can offer - which should be an indicator as to the class of player you have and can recruit.
Anyway it made interesting reading to me and maybe shows just how difficult a job any new manager has in getting the club to live up to the fans expectations of where we are as a club. The Walker years were great, the 20 years before and the 20 or so years since, Blackburn Rovers was and is a drastically different football club. As BAWH always bangs on about, maybe it's about time a large proportion of our fan base came to terms with it.
Pos | Team | Wage Bill | Pos | Team | Av Att | Pos | Expected Position | Pos | Actual Position | +/- Pos |
1 | Man United | £ 222,984,000.00 | 1 | Man United | 74,133 | 1 | Man United | 1 | Arsenal | +4 |
2 | Chelsea | £ 169,720,000.00 | 2 | West Ham | 62,449 | 2 | Tottenham | 2 | Man City | +1 |
3 | Man City | £ 163,060,000.00 | 3 | Tottenham | 61.644 | =3 | Liverpool | 3 | Newcastle | +6 |
4 | Liverpool | £ 141,782,000.00 | 4 | Arsenal | 60,135 | =3 | Man City | 4 | Tottenham | -2 |
5 | Tottenham | £ 101,344,000.00 | 5 | Liverpool | 53,271 | 5 | Arsenal | 5 | Man Utd | -4 |
6 | Arsenal | £ 85,490,000.00 | 6 | Man City | 53,152 | 6 | West Ham | 6 | Liverpool | -3 |
7 | Leicester | £ 78,780,000.00 | 7 | Newcastle | 52,177 | 7 | Chelsea | 7 | Brighton | +7 |
8 | Aston Villa | £ 75,232,000.00 | 8 | Aston Villa | 41,681 | 8 | Aston Villa | 8 | Chelsea | -1 |
9 | West Ham | £ 70,160,000.00 | 9 | Chelsea | 39,901 | 9 | Newcastle | 9 | Fulham | +16 |
10 | Newcastle | £ 62,610,000.00 | 10 | Everton | 39,209 | 10 | Leicester | 10 | Brentford | +19 |
11 | Crystal Palace | £ 59,180,000.00 | 11 | Sunderland | 37,027 | 11 | Everton | 11 | Crystal Palace | +3 |
12 | Everton | £ 43,120,000.00 | 12 | Leeds | 36,441 | 12 | Wolves | 12 | Aston Villa | -4 |
13 | Wolves | £ 38,310,000.00 | 13 | Leicester | 31,630 | 13 | Southampton | 13 | Leicester | -3 |
14 | Fulham | £ 37,610,000.00 | 14 | Wolves | 31,619 | =14 | Brighton | 14 | Bournemouth | +18 |
15 | Southampton | £ 35,380,000.00 | 15 | Brighton | 31,425 | =14 | Crystal Palace | 15 | Leeds | +1 |
16 | Bournemouth | £ 32,044,000.00 | 16 | Southampton | 30,747 | =16 | Leeds | 16 | West Ham | -10 |
17 | Notts Forest | £ 28,590,000.00 | 17 | Notts Forest | 29,040 | =16 | Notts Forest | 17 | Everton | -6 |
18 | Brighton | £ 28,340,000.00 | 18 | Sheff Utd | 28,552 | 18 | Norwich | 18 | Notts Forest | -2 |
19 | Watford | £ 22,210,000.00 | 19 | Derby | 26,926 | 19 | Sheff Utd | 19 | Southampton | -6 |
20 | Norwich | £ 20,130,000.00 | 20 | Norwich | 26,859 | 20 | Sunderland | 20 | Wolves | -8 |
21 | Burnley | £ 19,470,000.00 | 21 | Ipswich | 25,533 | 21 | Watford | 21 | Burnley | +2 |
22 | Leeds | £ 17,300,000.00 | 22 | Crystal Palace | 24,530 | 22 | West Brom | 22 | Sheff Utd | -3 |
23 | West Brom | £ 15,850,000.00 | 23 | Middlesbrough | 24,464 | =23 | Burnley | 23 | ROVERS | +19 |
24 | Brentford | £ 15,240,000.00 | 24 | Sheff Wed | 23,867 | =23 | Middlebrough | 24 | Watford | -3 |
25 | Sheff Utd | £ 12,640,000.00 | 25 | Fulham | 23,221 | =25 | Fulham | 25 | Norwich | -7 |
26 | Stoke | £ 10,610,000.00 | 26 | West Brom | 22,067 | =25 | Stoke | 26 | QPR | +10 |
27 | Bristol City | £ 10,540,000.00 | 27 | Stoke | 20,450 | 27 | Bristol City | 27 | Preston | +9 |
28 | Middlesbrough | £ 9,810,000.00 | 28 | Bristol City | 19,661 | 28 | Sheff Wed | 28 | Birmingham | +5 |
29 | Birmingham | £ 9,660,000.00 | 29 | Watford | 19,300 | 29 | Brentford | 29 | Millwall | +12 |
30 | Reading | £ 9,170,000.00 | 30 | Burnley | 19,157 | =30 | Derby | 30 | Swansea | +4 |
31 | QPR | £ 8,700,000.00 | 31 | Huddersfield | 18,591 | =30 | Ipswich | 31 | Reading | +9 |
32 | Swansea | £ 8,310,000.00 | 32 | Portsmouth | 18,197 | 32 | Bournemouth | 32 | Sunderland | -12 |
33 | Sheff Wed | £ 6,720,000.00 | 33 | Bolton | 18,061 | 33 | Birmingham | 33 | Middlesbrough | -10 |
34 | Preston | £ 6,670,000.00 | 34 | Coventry | 17,888 | =34 | Huddersfield | 34 | Coventry | +5 |
35 | Sunderland | £ 6,010,000.00 | 35 | Bradford | 17,367 | =34 | Swansea | 35 | Luton | +11 |
36 | Millwall | £ 5,860,000.00 | 36 | Cardiff | 17,131 | =36 | Preston | 36 | West Brom | -14 |
37 | Luton | £ 5,510,000.00 | 37 | Brentford | 17,037 | =36 | QPR | 37 | Stoke | -12 |
38 | ROVERS | £ 5,500,000.00 | 38 | Hull | 17,001 | 38 | Cardiff | 38 | Bristol City | -11 |
39 | Cardiff | £ 5,490,000.00 | 39 | Swansea | 16,561 | 39 | Coventry | 39 | Rotherham | +13 |
40 | Huddersfield | £ 5,210,000.00 | 40 | Preston | 16,007 | 40 | Reading | 40 | Cardiff | -2 |
41 | Wigan | £ 5,020,000.00 | 41 | Birmingham | 15,414 | 41 | Millwall | 41 | Hull | +3 |
42 | Coventry | £ 4,780,000.00 | 42 | Plymouth | 14,904 | 42 | ROVERS | 42 | Blackpool | +4 |
43 | Ipswich | £ 4,710,000.00 | 43 | QPR | 14,318 | 43 | Portsmouth | 43 | Wigan | +3 |
44 | Blackpool | £ 4,400,000.00 | 44 | ROVERS | 13,954 | 44 | Hull | 44 | Huddersfield | -10 |
45 | Derby | £ 4,360,000.00 | 45 | Millwall | 13,841 | 45 | Bolton | 45 | Plymouth | +6 |
46 | Hull | £ 4,080,000.00 | 46 | Blackpool | 13,610 | =46 | Blackpool | 46 | Ipswich | -16 |
47 | Peterborough | £ 3,220,000.00 | 47 | Reading | 13,255 | =46 | Luton | 47 | Sheff Wed | -19 |
48 | Port Vale | £ 3,110,000.00 | 48 | Charlton | 13,110 | =46 | Wigan | 48 | Barnsley | +1 |
49 | Wycombe | £ 3,010,000.00 | 49 | Wigan | 11,772 | 49 | Barnsley | 49 | Bolton | -5 |
50 | Charlton | £ 2,800,000.00 | 50 | Rotherham | 10,286 | 50 | Charlton | 50 | Derby | -20 |
51 | Portsmouth | £ 2,700,000.00 | 51 | Bournemouth | 10,269 | 51 | Plymouth | 51 | Wycombe | +8 |
52 | Rotherham | £ 2,650,000.00 | 52 | Barnsley | 9,949 | 52 | Rotherhan | 52 | Peterborough | +1 |
53 | Barnsley | £ 2,470,000.00 | 53 | Luton | 9,786 | 53 | Peterborough | 53 | Bristol Rovers | +3 |
54 | Bolton | £ 2,340,000.00 | 54 | Swindon | 8,769 | 54 | Port Vale | 54 | Portsmouth | -11 |
55 | Oxford | £ 2,310,000.00 | 55 | Bristol Rovers | 8,703 | 55 | Bradford | 55 | Shrewsbury | +7 |
56 | Grimsby | £ 2,210,000.00 | 56 | Stockport | 8,615 | 56 | Bristol Rovers | 56 | Port Vale | -2 |
57 | Plymouth | £ 2,010,000.00 | 57 | MK Dons | 8,344 | 57 | Oxford Utd | 57 | Exeter | +10 |
58 | Shrewsbury | £ 2,000,000.00 | 58 | Lincoln | 8,318 | 58 | Lincoln | 58 | Lincoln | 0 |
59 | Bristol Rovers | £ 1,970,000.00 | 59 | Peterborough | 8,300 | 59 | Wycombe | 59 | Oxford Utd | -2 |
60 | Colchester | £ 1,970,000.00 | 60 | Port Vale | 8,287 | 60 | Grimsby | 60 | Fleetwood | +12 |
61 | Lincoln | £ 1,880,000.00 | 61 | Oxford Utd | 7,800 | 61 | MK Dons | 61 | Cheltenham | +20 |
62 | Doncaster | £ 1,640,000.00 | 62 | L Orient | 7,497 | 62 | Shrewsbury | 62 | Charlton | -12 |
63 | Mansfield | £ 1,570,000.00 | 63 | Wimbledon | 7,472 | =63 | Doncaster | 63 | Accrington | +23 |
64 | Burton | £ 1,550,000.00 | 64 | Exeter | 6,679 | =63 | Mansfield | 64 | Cambridge | +4 |
65 | Mk Dons | £ 1,480,000.00 | 65 | Grimsby | 6,590 | =65 | L Orient | 65 | Forest Green | +14 |
66 | Fleetwood | £ 1,420,000.00 | 66 | Mansfield | 6,489 | =65 | Swindon | 66 | MK Dons | -5 |
67 | Salford | £ 1,180,000.00 | 67 | Doncaster | 6,314 | 67 | Exeter | 67 | Burton | +4 |
68 | Cambridge | £ 1,170,000.00 | 68 | Tranmere | 6,186 | 68 | Cambridge | 68 | Morecambe | +4 |
69 | Forest Green | £ 1,170,000.00 | 69 | Shrewsbury | 6,128 | 69 | Wimbledon | 69 | L Orient | -4 |
70 | L Orient | £ 1,170,000.00 | 70 | Cambridge | 6,034 | 70 | Colchester | 70 | Stevenage | +13 |
71 | Exeter | £ 1,160,000.00 | 71 | Wycombe | 5,429 | 71 | Burton | 71 | Northampton | +12 |
72 | Gillingham | £ 1,160,000.00 | 72 | Carlisle | 5,370 | =72 | Fleetwood | 72 | Swindon | -7 |
73 | Morecambe | £ 1,140,000.00 | 73 | Walsall | 5,200 | =72 | Morecambe | 73 | Mansfield | -10 |
74 | Harrogate | £ 1,130,000.00 | 74 | Northampton | 5,181 | =72 | Stockport | 74 | Barrow | +16 |
75 | Bradford | £ 1,100,000.00 | 75 | Morecambe | 4,598 | 75 | Gillingham | 75 | Carlisle | +2 |
76 | Stevenage | £ 920,000.00 | 76 | Hartlepool | 4,523 | 76 | Tranmere | 76 | Bradford | -21 |
77 | Crawley | £ 870,000.00 | 77 | Gillingham | 4,378 | =77 | Carlisle | 77 | Salford | 0 |
78 | Swindon | £ 790,000.00 | 78 | Cheltenham | 4,086 | =77 | Salford | 78 | Doncaster | -15 |
79 | Wimbledon | £ 790,000.00 | 79 | Newport | 4,030 | 79 | Forest Green | 79 | Walsall | +1 |
80 | Accrington | £ 785,000.00 | 80 | Crewe | 3,852 | 80 | Walsall | 80 | Wimbledon | -11 |
81 | Newport | £ 780,000.00 | 81 | Barrow | 3,431 | =81 | Cheltenham | 81 | Stockport | -9 |
82 | Cheltenham | £ 760,000.00 | 82 | Fleetwood | 3,378 | =81 | Newport | 82 | Grimsby | -22 |
83 | Carlisle | £ 760,000.00 | 83 | Burton | 3,278 | =83 | Northampton | 83 | Tranmere | -7 |
84 | Crewe | £ 720,000.00 | 84 | Colchester | 3,220 | =83 | Stevenage | 84 | Sutton | +7 |
85 | Tranmere | £ 720,000.00 | 85 | Accrington | 3,201 | 85 | Crewe | 85 | Crewe | 0 |
86 | Walsall | £ 710,000.00 | 86 | Stevenage | 3,095 | 86 | Accrington | 86 | Newport | -5 |
87 | Sutton | £ 670,000.00 | 87 | Forest Green | 3,088 | =87 | Crawley | 87 | Crawley | 0 |
88 | Northampton | £ 610,000.00 | 88 | Salford | 2,926 | =87 | Harrogate | 88 | Harrogate | -1 |
89 | Barrow | £ 600,000.00 | 89 | Crawley | 2,894 | =87 | Hartlepool | 89 | Rochdale | +3 |
90 | Hartlepool | £ 520,000.00 | 90 | Rochdale | 2,858 | 90 | Barrow | 90 | Hartlepool | -1 |
91 | Rochdale | £ 510,000.00 | 91 | Sutton | 2,842 | 91 | Sutton | 91 | Colchester | -21 |
92 | Stockport | £ 500,000.00 | 92 | Harrogate | 2,015 | 92 | Rochdale | 92 | Gillingham | -17 |