Rovers voluntary redundancies

[Barmitzvah Boy]

Rovers are to reduce the non playing staff. Inevitable but sad. I wonder how much the Venkys (sorry it would gave cone from Club accounts not the V's) paid two sets of so called top accountancy firms to cone up with this plan?


http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/15444916.Blackburn_Rovers_set_to_axe_staff/?ref=ebln

 

[davebirch]

BB, had they done the right thing in the first place, they (the Venkys):

would never have been in this position
not lost as much (if anything)
been welcome in Blackburn
had a high profile in the UK and Europe
been the owner of a proud and distinguished club

It's always those at the bottom of the totem that suffers the most.

I'm a firm believer in Karma. It will happen, I just hope I'm around to shout "YES"

 

[Victor_Kruger]

Wonder how much a wage cut players would have to take to cover those wages, 2% maybe? Saying that, the club employs a lot of people are they all needed?

 

[Alan]

Rovers are to reduce the non playing staff. Inevitable but sad. I wonder how much the Venkys (sorry it would gave cone from Club accounts not the V's) paid two sets of so called top accountancy firms to cone up with this plan?


http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/15444916.Blackburn_Rovers_set_to_axe_staff/?ref=ebln

The number of times I have seen this happen! Companies want to be more efficient and they call in accountancy companies or "efficiency experts", call them what you will and all they ever do is to occupy your office and badger your staff for a month, charge you £50 grand and say "Make X number redundant". They never, ever, suggest better ways of doing things and you might as well have saved the money and cut the staff yourself.
It surprises me that companies have not twigged this over the years. Any company I ran would get the cheapest accountants in to do the statutory annual audit of the accounts, sign them and leave it at that.
The big companies rip you off but some directors like to be able to say they employ KPMG etc. Complete waste of time. They send in one qualified accountant and a bunch of young apprentices who haven't a clue about your business until the last day when one of the partners comes in to discuss the charges.
It's a complete waste of money.

 

[steve w]

and Alan when these people arrive everyone on the shop floor knows exactly what is coming!! As you say all they ever do is "cost cut" which just leads to a further downward spiral. In truth the problem usually lies in bloody bad management - just like Ewood over the last 7/8 years.
We are victims of more bad management --- and its so fucking sad and annoying in equal measure

 

[Barmitzvah Boy]

Cut the Board..............whoops - we don't have one!!

 

[Dunnfc]

The number of times I have seen this happen! Companies want to be more efficient and they call in accountancy companies or "efficiency experts", call them what you will and all they ever do is to occupy your office and badger your staff for a month, charge you £50 grand and say "Make X number redundant". They never, ever, suggest better ways of doing things and you might as well have saved the money and cut the staff yourself.
It surprises me that companies have not twigged this over the years. Any company I ran would get the cheapest accountants in to do the statutory annual audit of the accounts, sign them and leave it at that.
The big companies rip you off but some directors like to be able to say they employ KPMG etc. Complete waste of time. They send in one qualified accountant and a bunch of young apprentices who haven't a clue about your business until the last day when one of the partners comes in to discuss the charges.
It's a complete waste of money.

Lot I agree with there, you don't bring accountants for efficiency unless they are preparing for corporate turnaround or recovery. Staff is usually streamlined from the finance department, I'd get worried if they took advice though from smaller jobbies especially ones not reputable and providing just a sign off auditory wise, usually leads to a cover up IN my experience.

 

[Drog]

Accountants. Short term gain.... long term loss merchants.

 

[Vinjay]

Corporate catering contracts should have been on the cutbacks list before the jobs of day to day workers.

 

[Alan]

Corporate catering contracts should have been on the cutbacks list before the jobs of day to day workers.

I know that Northcote are one of your pet hates but if Rovers didn't make a profit from them they wouldn't be there. They are trying to cut costs not profit areas.
I see Phil Jones gets another barb from you too.

 

[Drog]

Corporate catering contracts should have been on the cutbacks list before the jobs of day to day workers.

How can you say that when you know neither the costs nor the profitability involved?

 

[Vinjay]

We all know who's behind Northcote. The same people who set off the chain of events that has led to these people losing their jobs. If you think the trustees aren't involved look where the holding company (Matlyn investments Ltd) for the Matthewman's investment is registered. That's right...Jersey.

 

[Dunnfc]

Vinjay has a point it's not unusual for clubs to mortgage catering contracts off. Either by taking a lump sum from someone to come in and run it and for them to make the money and keep in return or to actually mortgage against the value of equipment and future profits what the club make. I've known a couple of clubs with agreements via close who've done it in the past.

 

[Alan]

Vinjay has a point it's not unusual for clubs to mortgage catering contracts off. Either by taking a lump sum from someone to come in and run it and for them to make the money and keep in return or to actually mortgage against the value of equipment and future profits what the club make. I've known a couple of clubs with agreements via close who've done it in the past.

Than as I say Rovers make money out of it.

 

[Drog]

Exactly.
Tbh though I never cease to be amazed at how slow the service is at Ewood. Lets be honest the HT is only 15 mins and add 5 mins either way it is still only 25 mins to sell as much high margin refreshments as possible. Plenty of staff as a rule but they seem poorly trained and slow, the menu is too picky and as a rule every transaction just takes too long.

 

[Skiptonrover]

The dingles had it right it pains me to say with that pie app where you order 1 & im not sure how the mechanics work meaning does it come to your seat or do you have to pick it up at a piepoint. Not sure if they still do it just heard about it. I guess these things are subject to demand. Would definitely speed up service cut queues.

 

[Skiptonrover]

Exactly.
Tbh though I never cease to be amazed at how slow the service is at Ewood. Lets be honest the HT is only 15 mins and add 5 mins either way it is still only 25 mins to sell as much high margin refreshments as possible. Plenty of staff as a rule but they seem poorly trained and slow, the menu is too picky and as a rule every transaction just takes too long.

I guess from there point of view they will be on minimum wage no incentive to rush. If it was commissioned based they'd have a rocket up there jacksy.

 

[yoda]

The number of times I have seen this happen! Companies want to be more efficient and they call in accountancy companies or "efficiency experts", call them what you will and all they ever do is to occupy your office and badger your staff for a month, charge you £50 grand and say "Make X number redundant". They never, ever, suggest better ways of doing things and you might as well have saved the money and cut the staff yourself.
It surprises me that companies have not twigged this over the years. Any company I ran would get the cheapest accountants in to do the statutory annual audit of the accounts, sign them and leave it at that.
The big companies rip you off but some directors like to be able to say they employ KPMG etc. Complete waste of time. They send in one qualified accountant and a bunch of young apprentices who haven't a clue about your business until the last day when one of the partners comes in to discuss the charges.
It's a complete waste of money.

Correct Alan, the 1st thing they should do is call in Kaizen experts.

 

[Drog]

I guess from there point of view they will be on minimum wage no incentive to rush. If it was commissioned based they'd have a rocket up there jacksy.

Simple enough solution to implement I'd imagine. Honestly in all my life I've never experienced quick enough service at football grounds.

 

[Majiball]

Exactly.
Tbh though I never cease to be amazed at how slow the service is at Ewood. Lets be honest the HT is only 15 mins and add 5 mins either way it is still only 25 mins to sell as much high margin refreshments as possible. Plenty of staff as a rule but they seem poorly trained and slow, the menu is too picky and as a rule every transaction just takes too long.

The catering at Ewood has always been poor, slow, poor products and as you say the staff seem clueless. The mangers of that department are clearly not much cop and despite losing thousands of fans, they still struggle to service the demand. It's not rocket science and yet can I get a coffee within half-time without missing some of the match? Would have been good to see external cateres come in as then it may have become plausible.

On the redundancies it was always coming but why did it need 2 external and very expensive companies to come in and decide this was the best option? That money could have saved several jobs. It all seems rather nieve and odd given Venkys stock is soaring and yet rovers continues to decline due to incompetence