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steve w

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Somewhere on here I got my denial of that charge in early!

Now he has done ok - I wish I'd kept shtum
 

Barmitzvah Boy

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Steve Waggott on ST’s. This makes a lot of sense albeit I am now reluctant to return unless I can be in the JW Upper which seems unlikely.

 

Drog

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Hey! If we can't go on how about us funding a cardboard cut out in the crowd? My vote would be Steve Kean in a Burnley shirt sitting alongside Jerome Anderson with little red horns and a trident and $s spilling out of his top pocket!
 
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steve w

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I would miss being in the JW upper and cant see why it couldn't be sold to previous season ticket holders only?

There was always lots of empty seats for "standard" games - it was only glamour games with lots of "walk on" that it got crowded

After saying that, I spent 10 years or so in the JW lower and before that was always on the Blackburn end so I'm happy to sit anywhere
 

Alan

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I have paid for a season ticket for the past two seasons knowing that it was unlikely that I would be able to attend, for health reasons, purely to retain my seat in a good area, amongst friends in the JWU. I am not prepared to buy an ST anywhere else and I am sure that there are many others in the same position. Rovers will lose a lot of revenue from this decision. It has not been thought through. The JWU is the best area in the stadium.
 

Drog

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Seems I need to pay the LT to access Waggott's statement so until I do im in the dark. I can't find anything on the Rovers website. Why are they not making the JWU available? It's the best view in the ground.
 

Barmitzvah Boy

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Seems I need to pay the LT to access Waggott's statement so until I do im in the dark. I can't find anything on the Rovers website. Why are they not making the JWU available? It's the best view in the ground.
‘Chief executive Waggott revealed tickets in the lower tiers of the Riverside, Blackburn End and Jack Walker Stand would be sold first, with the Jack Walker Upper initially reserved for hospitality guests.

The lower tier tickets would all be priced at the same level, and that would include access to the seven midweek Championship away matches via an access code for the iFollow platform. As things stand, all of Rovers’ matches will be available to stream live for every supporter via the iFollow platform at £10 per match, starting with this weekend’s opening fixture at Bournemouth.


Rovers sold just shy of 8,900 season tickets last season, with a walk-up figure for each match averaging between 1,500 and 2,000. With no away fans to be granted access to stadiums for the majority of the upcoming season, should Government guidelines allow, Rovers are confident of housing that number of supporters within the ground given they would be willing to open up the Blackburn and Darwen End upper tiers.

Should Rovers be granted the opportunity to host a pilot game at a level below the number of season tickets sold, then who could attend the game would likely be done via a ballot.

Below, the club’s chief executive answers questions on the club’s season ticket stance.’
 

Barmitzvah Boy

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and......

‘Would you consider opening all stands inside Ewood Park again?

“Let’s say we can have 30 per cent of our entire capacity, that would equate to nearly 10,000, that’s the figure in my head.

“We could get that with one seat and one seat empty either side, not that we’d do that model, but we’d have to open the entire stadium.

“So the message is out there, I want the lower tier to be sold first, I want people to be close to the pitch, create the atmosphere with less people in the stadium, and the Jack Walker Upper to be for the corporate angle, because we’re looking to get the number of people in we can using the lounges and there will be tickets for people up there who want to buy on a season ticket basis.

“The lower tiers are going to be one price, including the Riverside, and I want those to be filled before we start to look at the Blackburn End or Darwen End upper tiers.” ‘
 

Wilpshire Blue

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But not everyone wants to be 'close to the pitch' because you can't see what the heck is going on further away.
Will Waggott be sitting close to the pitch??
 

Drog

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Rovers appear to be doing pretty well with the Coronavirus issue but 'biting the hand that feeds' you springs immediately to mind. It must be a nightmare scenario for Waggott and his chums but closing off the best view in the ground to the ST holders who have paid extra for years for that privilege could easily be a version of business suicide. Some might say that it shows what they think of the JW Upper supporters doesn't it?
I refuse to sit on the 'End's as they are poor views in comparison, I will refuse to sit on the any lower tier too as those views of the matches are even worse and I don't fancy sitting miles from the pitch behind a stanchion on the Riverside either.
As for accommodating the Corporates then good luck with that Steve. The JW Upper inner sections were cleared last season supposedly to make way for a huge influx of corporates..... fat lot of good that did as those seats weren't filled and remained empty the entire time.
My perceptions of football corporate is that it belongs either at the very top clubs or back in the 1990's and the early days of the Premier League. People tried it, their businesses paid for it and now it's very old hat and tired. What attraction do these chaps believe Championship football has for most business people? I've tried to fill Corporate tables in the past and it became increasingly difficult! Something that appealed massively to the prawn sarnie gang when we were in the Prem was already old hat in the noughties and is now nigh on impossible to even give away in the Championship.

Just my opinion, but I don't particularly enjoy dining at Ewood, nor watching the match with a suit, collar and tie on either. If I wanted to entertain a valued client who happened to be a red hot Boro / Brum / Watford fan and whose business was worth a lot to me I'd take him/her to Northcote first with Exec transport to Ewood and back. Much better value for money and with a much bigger wow factor too.
Surely even the Rovers management aren't fool enough to believe that the rather less ingrained support of the business brigade will elect to do corporate in a freezing cold, atmosphere free football ground? Or are they?

Speaking for myself I'd rather watch on ifollow or similar than move away from the JWU. My mates dodgy box with a can of beer and some crisps looking favourite at the moment. I can see every match home and away that way. Which leads me to another query, I'm a little unclear about iFollow. Is it £10 per match for all, ST holders or not or is every match home and away free to ST holders as at the end of last season?

What a pity that all the good work done at the Academy and by the Manager and scouts can't now be matched by the Chief Exec and could now easily all go to waste.

Take note...... People will not be herded like sheep Mr Waggott.
 
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Drog

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But not everyone wants to be 'close to the pitch' because you can't see what the heck is going on further away.
Will Waggott be sitting close to the pitch??
When I was at school that would be deemed a good example of a rhetorical question. I predict this decision if it's followed through will cost BRFC big time.
 

Dreams of 1995

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I think what Waggot has done is speak without thinking regarding the hospitality. My belief is that with a 10% capacity we will be allowed around 10,000 people into the ground. I'm unsure as to the capacity of each stand, but say the Jack Walker holds 8,000 and the upper 5,000, does this mean only approx 500 people can sit in the upper?

In which case, it probably does make sense to host the hospitality seats up there given the proximity of the boxes and suites.

What has been lost in the thought process is the affect it will have on our regular season ticket holders there. Folk have paid premium for those seats now for decades, and in order to keep the hospitality boys happy they will lose their chance of a seat regardless. A fair compromise might have been to split 50 / 50 between hospitality and ST holders, but then would you pay hospitality prices for a seat anywhere but the JWU?

He's in a no-win situation, but his wording of why the JWU is to be closed has meant it has alienated a lot of ordinary people who quite simply want the best view on offer.
 

Drog

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Waggott talked of filling the lower tiers first but the Jack Walker Upper will be open to a small portion of season ticket holders.
It feels as though the idea is, during these unprecedented times, to get as many of the fanbase back into the ground, without paying an awful lot of attention as to who sits where.
Not an ideal situation, which I completely understand. The expectation is that the majority of supporters will be desperate to get back into the ground, no matter where they sit.

Probably worth noting that ticket revenue accounts for around 20-25 per cent of Rovers’ income, and the club are looking to recapture as much of that lost revenue as possible."


Not that desperate Steve. Massive lesson to learn I believe.
 

Barmitzvah Boy

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All this kerfuffle about ST’s and where we sit has probably been a waste of time and effort.

Given how much the R Factor is increasing by it is going to be a long long wait until we get back to Ewood.
 
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