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Dunnfc

Senior Member
What a load of bollocks that first comment is. Worst than anything Mowbray served up? really? 3-1 home defeat to Doncaster in league 1 season, PLymouth away 1 nil lost, Fulham both games lost 7 nil at home and 2 nil away, Preston away 3-2 lost after being 2 nil up after 15 minutes. Do you want me to continue? JDT has had 5 games in charge and I feel it annoying and unwarranted how crucial and how much lack of patience and time people are given how much Mowbray got. Maybe you want him back then? But I am pleased he gone!

Writing off another player after 4 games. Its so sad and sadly pathetic to see people post this judgement crap. No time to settle in or patience from some fans towards players. I've seen the same treatment towards Hedges from yourself. Maybe allow JDT and the players to grow together as team and stop judging after 5 league games. We are 4th currently, reading you posts you would think we were bottom of the league and had zero points. Maybe its time to drop this negative/pessimistic viewpoint and show some positive and understanding of our start to the season.

JDT's Blue and White Army!
Mowbray shouldn't have gone to be honest but that's another issue. JDT for me, his tactics are not suited to this squad, he leaves us wide open with stupid triangles being passed in front of our own box. It is bloody painful to watch Chaddy. At least TM there was an air of fluidity we look stale, static and bereft of any attacking intent at the moment. I don't think I've seen us play 180 mins before where we are completely under the cosh and struggle to break out. Mid week was embarrassing and Sheff Utd not much better. The games you've listed had goalS MAINLY! I think Fulham can be discounted they did it to 3 other teams last year!

Smozdics looks a waste of money, he can run as I said previously but he's so far of mentally, watch him before Norwood's free kick he was too busy looking across with his arm out to stay level in a line as opposed to being the one to press and close down which he eventually did and late and gave away a stupid free kick resulting in the goal. Dack is three times the player and I don't think it was ever an area which needed strengthening so soon, there are more priority positions.

Hedges has a had a few good games this year but did you go to games last year? You will have realised bar Brum most of his appearances on and off the bench were garbage, resulting in effectively 85% of his game time here being garbage. He might be on the verge of turning that around but you don't get promotions with players like Ryan hedges.
 

blueandwhitehalves

Senior Member
What a load of bollocks that first comment is. Worst than anything Mowbray served up? really? 3-1 home defeat to Doncaster in league 1 season, PLymouth away 1 nil lost, Fulham both games lost 7 nil at home and 2 nil away, Preston away 3-2 lost after being 2 nil up after 15 minutes. Do you want me to continue? JDT has had 5 games in charge and I feel it annoying and unwarranted how crucial and how much lack of patience and time people are given how much Mowbray got. Maybe you want him back then? But I am pleased he gone!

Writing off another player after 4 games. Its so sad and sadly pathetic to see people post this judgement crap. No time to settle in or patience from some fans towards players. I've seen the same treatment towards Hedges from yourself. Maybe allow JDT and the players to grow together as team and stop judging after 5 league games. We are 4th currently, reading you posts you would think we were bottom of the league and had zero points. Maybe its time to drop this negative/pessimistic viewpoint and show some positive and understanding of our start to the season.

JDT's Blue and White Army!
Thats 2 posts this week you've opened by calling Dunn FC's comments bollocks, and this one included labelling them sad, pathetic and crap too. I've been guilty of insults in the past but have tried to cut it out since, so how about leaving the brfcs approach to disagreement over there.

JDT's post-match comments after Sheff Utd repeatedly said the squad is stretched and repeatedly said he needs more players. That's what the man himself thinks is wrong. He's not saying give me time, he's saying give me players.

I think my opinion is consistent in that I blame neither Mowbray or JDT for us being a small club with low attendances and no money, who should be happy with mid-table. That's not your opinion, you blamed Mowbray. So I assume you'll be blaming JDT too if he doesn't deliver?
 

Chaddyrovers

Senior Member
Mowbray shouldn't have gone to be honest but that's another issue
Crazy attitude and people very happy with boring mid table football and zero ambition of PL football in my opinion

JDT for me, his tactics are not suited to this squad, he leaves us wide open with stupid triangles being passed in front of our own box. It is bloody painful to watch Chaddy. At least TM there was an air of fluidity we look stale, static and bereft of any attacking intent at the moment.
JDT wants to play a very different style of play and tactics than we seen under Mowbray which is why we need to make signings but Its the start of new strategy from Rovers under a new management team so maybe you and others should have some patience and give some time like you were very happy to do to dour boring Mowbray.

The games you've listed had goalS MAINLY! I think Fulham can be discounted they did it to 3 other teams last year!
changing the boundaries to suit your arguments yet again. Fulham mulled us in both games. End of. We had plenty of poor games and performances last season and before under Mowbray.

Smozdics looks a waste of money, he can run as I said previously but he's so far of mentally, watch him before Norwood's free kick he was too busy looking across with his arm out to stay level in a line as opposed to being the one to press and close down which he eventually did and late and gave away a stupid free kick resulting in the goal. Dack is three times the player and I don't think it was ever an area which needed strengthening so soon, there are more priority positions.
Maybe allow some patience and time for him to come good and trust JDT to bring the best out of him. For some reasons you and others aren't willing to do this but plenty was given to Mowbray

Can Dack play the 10 role like JDT wants and maybe his injuries means he can't do that role anymore

Hedges has a had a few good games this year but did you go to games last year? You will have realised bar Brum most of his appearances on and off the bench were garbage, resulting in effectively 85% of his game time here being garbage. He might be on the verge of turning that around but you don't get promotions with players like Ryan hedges.
Yes I want to the games last season. I have been a ST holder for over 20 years and I don't miss any home league game ever!

Hedges was given zero opportunities under Mowbray until it was far too late and his stubbornness of sticking with 3 at the back when it clearly wasn't working for weeks before hand.

Hedges was excellent at PNE away which we won 4-1, Good when he came on against Stoke home game for 14 mins. Good against Birmingham.

Just for the record before the Stoke sub appearances , Mowbray gave him 1 start and 6 subs appearances in total of mins of 142 minutes. How can form a opinion based on that is truly mind blowing and to be honest unfair and unnecessary
 

Drog

Administrator
Staff member
Blue and white specs chaddy. I've watched every match and the performance curve is downward. Let's recap the stats.....

1. A poor 1st half v QPR except for a Travis wonder strike. Rem they hit the bar and had key players out. 4 SHOTS ON TARGET v 0!

2. A very poor first half v Swansea until a goal out of the blue changed the game. From then on we picked them off as they sought to get back in the game. Just 29% possession with 3 goals from 4 SHOTS ON TARGET

3. A cruise against a very very weak Hartlepool team, currently winless and third bottom of League 2.

4. A rather fortunate 3 points v WBA in a brave performance on a scorching hot day. Only 40% possession and we scored two cracking goals out of ONLY TWO SHOTS ON TARGET!

5. A desperately poor showing at Reading and a 3-0 hiding. For once we had the possession stats in our favour but with JUST 1 SHOT on target we would at best have lost 3-1. Fair enough I deemed that exhaustion from Sunday to have played a part but that excuse cannot be made twice.

6. Shambolic performance v Sheff Utd with a top of the table place at stake. ZERO shots on target.... bloody ZERO ffs!!!! Last time I can recall that happening was the desperate performance at Spurs under Keane.

So for the last three matches that's just 3 shots on target!!! That isn't bollocks chaddy that is fact! Even taking into account the entire season we have still only managed an average of 2 shots on target in 5 matches! :eek: Of course it's still early days but as for good results I can recall other managers early days .....

Ince's first match was a 2-3 away win at Everton.... and we know how that ended and before Chrismas too!

Kean's first match was a win at WBA a defeat v Sunderland and then a win v Liverpool before a winless 10 matches had us plummet down the table and needing to beat Wolves on the final day to stay up. When Allardyce was sacked we were 11th! We all know how Kean's reign ended too!

I recall an out of the blue sacking of a good manager in Bowyer and his replacement Lambert going unbeaten for his first 5 matches despite some dreadful performances with is awful midfield 'diamond'. We all know how that ended here and how his career plummeted after one successful season at Norwich. A true one hit wonder.

There appears now to be some disquieting rumours (as always) coming out from behind the scenes (Hedges for starters) so it's very much wait and see time, time to keep an open mind and not a time to be trumpeting a new manager to the heavens without basis on an 'I told you so' basis based on nothing but hope and a desire to be proven right about the previous manager.
 
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Chaddyrovers

Senior Member
Thats 2 posts this week you've opened by calling Dunn FC's comments bollocks, and this one included labelling them sad, pathetic and crap too. I've been guilty of insults in the past but have tried to cut it out since, so how about leaving the brfcs approach to disagreement over there.
no insults are said but just my opinion on the post. I call as I see it. My Bollock comment I think very fair and correct to what Dunnfc has said. If you disagree that is fine by me.

JDT's post-match comments after Sheff Utd repeatedly said the squad is stretched and repeatedly said he needs more players. That's what the man himself thinks is wrong. He's not saying give me time, he's saying give me players.
signings was happen and I can understand his comments but he also knows the current transfer market we are in which has been slow for the past 2 weeks. He will time and patience to bring his style and principles after these signings are made.

I think my opinion is consistent in that I blame neither Mowbray or JDT for us being a small club with low attendances and no money, who should be happy with mid-table. That's not your opinion, you blamed Mowbray. So I assume you'll be blaming JDT too if he doesn't deliver?
For Me, Mowbray had plenty of money and big enough budget to make the playoffs places at least once if not twice at least. He had money to spend last January and didn't want to spend it and He has never spent his entire season budget during his time here.

JDT is the head coach so his responsible for match results and the team style of play but not for bringing in signings or budget. Please understand that DoF/head coach model here now in place after I have been calling for it for many years.

No manager or head coach is responsible for low attendances unless the results and style puts people of coming to the games
 

blueandwhitehalves

Senior Member
For Me, Mowbray had plenty of money and big enough budget to make the playoffs places at least once if not twice at least. He had money to spend last January and didn't want to spend it and He has never spent his entire season budget during his time here.

JDT is the head coach so his responsible for match results and the team style of play but not for bringing in signings or budget. Please understand that DoF/head coach model here now in place after I have been calling for it for many years.

No manager or head coach is responsible for low attendances unless the results and style puts people of coming to the games
It doesn't matter who's signing players if we've no money to spend. The funds for Mowbray have been pitiful in recent windows, clubs spend tens of millions to get out of the Championship and Mowbray was signing players for £750k. JDT has the exact same problem and will in my opinion get the same or worse results.

And this isn't a temporary thing, we're a club £200m in debt, losing £15m per season, with owners who are (perfectly understandably) slowly but steadily bringing down the wage bill. This poor player quality situation we're in will only get worse, which is another reason it was insane to sack Mowbray.

Again I go back to JDT's post match comments: "Sheffield United have an excellent squad and a lot of quality players...they were better than us...we lost more than eight players and only three players came in so far". He's literally saying we can't live with these clubs.
 
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