Fleetwood game tonight

[Pinkrover]

Dreadful defending. Dreadful game. Rovers outsung by about 250Fleetwood fans. I doubt if we had 5000 fans on tonight.

Promotion my arse.

Mowbray out !!!!!!

 

[Barmitzvah Boy]

The trouble is Pinko who do we bring in, and who do we trust to make the appointment.

I also doubt that the Venkoids we want to pay off yet another manager.

Some of those players need to have a long hard look in a mirror.

Too negative, no pace, and Danny “I could not jump over a Mars Bar”Graham.

 

[Pinkrover]

The trouble is Pinko who do we bring in, and who do we trust to make the appointment.

I also doubt that the Venkoids we want to pay off yet another manager.

Some of those players need to have a long hard look in a mirror.

Too negative, no pace, and Danny “I could not jump over a Mars Bar”Graham.

His time is done tho I think...they look lazy ..cant believe the wage they get 4 that shit tho..ye he's piggin useless..lol at can't jump over a mars bar

 

[yoda]

According to aunty we had 2 shots 0 shots on target but scored twice. How does that work ?

 

[Barmitzvah Boy]

Both bundled in.

 

[khmerblue]

This is becoming as bad as brfcs sack the manager we should be unbeaten 32pts clear and then TM would still have lcritics.We are division 3 with 3rd division players and 3rd division crowds.just looked at the table we are in a play off spot.Nowt won in november.

 

[dingles staying down]

When Mowbray came in he said that the defence needs organising. Guess what 10 months down the line and the defence still needs organising. Lets not forget that this is a manager that took a team in similar circumstances to Rovers from the top of this division to the bottom before quitting.
I agree we are a 3rd division team with 3rd division players and crowd but the manager is not at that level. Pinkrover is right, Mowbray has to go.

 

[Barmitzvah Boy]

Got past the angry stage, I am just sad. Sad at what Rovers have become, lucky to get a point at home v Fleetwood who were the best league 1 team at Ewood this season....Fleetwood FFS.

Whittingham and Downing had a good game and Raya saved us a couple of times. As for DG I have seen more movement in a funeral parlour, Nyambe gives me the creeps - he has no footballing brain. Conway has lost it, so much possession and no delivery. Nice to see Nuttall on and scoring.

We will struggle against Barnet with a gate of circa 2000.

 

[Pinkrover]

This is becoming as bad as brfcs sack the manager we should be unbeaten 32pts clear and then TM would still have lcritics.We are division 3 with 3rd division players and 3rd division crowds.just looked at the table we are in a play off spot.Nowt won in november.

No were near as bad as brfcs!!! How dare you...lol

 

[Pinkrover]

Got past the angry stage, I am just sad. Sad at what Rovers have become, lucky to get a point at home v Fleetwood who were the best league 1 team at Ewood this season....Fleetwood FFS.

Whittingham and Downing had a good game and Raya saved us a couple of times. As for DG I have seen more movement in a funeral parlour, Nyambe gives me the creeps - he has no footballing brain. Conway has lost it, so much possession and no delivery. Nice to see Nuttall on and scoring.

We will struggle against Barnet with a gate of circa 2000.

Totes agree...thought was just me he gave the jeepers 2 lol

 

[Wilpshire Blue]

This is becoming as bad as brfcs sack the manager we should be unbeaten 32pts clear and then TM would still have lcritics.We are division 3 with 3rd division players and 3rd division crowds.just looked at the table we are in a play off spot.Nowt won in november.

I just looked at the table too - we are eleven points behind an automatic promotion spot and it's the 1st of November.
Every other team we play is also in the 3rd division with 3rd division players and crowds - we just sneaked into the top 6 on goal difference.
We are in a run of 1 win in five, three of those were home games, only one of those matches was against a team in the top six, one was home against the rock bottom team and another against a bottom six team, which we lost.
We spent more money in the summer than most teams in our division and we almost certainly have the best training facilities available in the whole division, so what could possibly be our weak spot?
Nowt lost in November either, apart from more ground on the top two.

 

[Alan]

Loads of possession but no penetration. As soon as we get a lead we drop back and defend and lose a goal than attack again. What sort of tactics is that? Every time Fleetwood (bloody Fleetwood!!) attacked Williams gave away a corner.
There are still too many players not good enough. Both full backs (Nyambe has one move, pass backwards), Graham and Conway are both well past it and Antonsson has nothing to commend him and will never be a player. Send him back and play a youngster. So much for the summer recruitment drive.
Sorry I have no patience to comment on the match. I leave that to Drog.

 

[Drog]

Now I can't quite put my finger on why but I'm experiencing a certain feeling of Deja Vu this morning. What could it be?
Let me view the facts...... A post match feeling of being fortunate to get a draw against a team from a small unfancied Northern Town with a German manager. A team (in the true sense of the word) of obviously extremely fit professional football players who looked a yard quicker and a couple of stones lighter than our mob and carried a very professional never-say-die attitude. A team with a typically professional Germanic approach to the task in hand who began with a game plan and stuck to it. A team who when not in possession of the ball presented a solid 5-3-2 formation which switched seamlessly to fast breaking 3-5-2 when in possession*. A team in which every player knew his role and gave a thoroughly professional and workmanlike performance. Hmmmmmm.... Ermmmmm.... Got it! ....... Huddersfield Town and David Wagner!

* N.B. the alliteration of the word 'professional' is completely intentional. These lads appear to have a certain pride in their profession and more importantly in themselves. Compared to our (admittedly improved on last season) collection of misfits, has beens and never will be's.

Goodness only knows how we would have fared if Huddersf sorry Fleetwood had scored first. I've a feeling we could have easily lost by 2 or 3 goals in that eventuality. If ever there was a comment to be made on the difference between a team managed by an ex centre forward and one managed by an ex centre half this was it. I've been bemoaning the fact that by the time we've played half a dozen triangular passes before finally managing to put a cross in that the opposing defence and GK are in position, facing the right way and close to their 'man'. Defending then becomes so much easier. Not so for Fleetwood. As soon as either winger gained a yard (or in Derick Williams case 2 0r 3 yards) the ball was swung into the danger area. The age old advice to wingers of .... Don't look up, just stick it on the penalty spot and if there isn't a forward there then it's them who'll earn the post match dressing room bollocking and not you!

So a goal up twice and with comfortable thoughts of 3 points dashed each time we have at least managed to scramble back into 6th position. On performances to date I've virtually given up on a top 2 automatic promotion and tbh we are looking like an outfit likely to finish out of the play offs and above half way. Pretty much where Big Sam had us in the Premier League when he was sacked and where Gary Bowyer usually had us in the Championship when he was also sacked. What is it about the Indian owners that they need to sack decent Manager's? Maybe I should also ask significant sections of the supporters the same question.

So moving on... two matches running we've had a dodgy Referee. Darren Drysdale appeared to believe that he was the main attraction and that we had turned up to watch him. Vain Referees being the worst sort imo, he's obviously unaware of the old truism that the best referee is the one that you don't notice.

Raya....5. This lad is an enigma. He does the difficult stuff well and then screws up on the simple things. A string of good saves ruined by his usual Dracula approach to crosses. He's scared stiff of them. I'd suggest Rossler had done his homework well on Raya as most Fleetwood corners saw him pressured by Fleetwood players (odd that our strikers allowed Cairns in the Fleetwood goal lots of time with the ball at his feet instead of rushing in on him because to me he looked less than comfortable with his kicking). Earned a deserved and blistering bollocking from Dack after his rick allowed Fleetwood their 2nd equaliser.
Nyambe... 5. Big and strong but with little ability in attack or defence. Rugby might be more suited to his talents.
Downing... 6. Did fine overall but was poorly positioned and slow to react to Fleetwoods 1st goal after Mulgrew failed to win Cairn's long punt.
Mulgrew.... 6 See above. Too easily beaten in the air for Fleetwoods 1st.
Williams... 6. Bitter sweet night. Involved in EVERY goal, both ours and theirs! Nearly scored with a cracking volley that just missed the target but again defended poorly. Asleep and poorly positioned for their first and was caught ball watching and left trailing in the wake of the scorer. I think his lack of pace on the turn causes him to stand to far away from his winger leading to far too many crosses coming from his winger. Did so many poor things that whilst awarded MoM by Peter Jackson's jewellers for his attacking influence no way was he my choice for that award.
Conway.... 6 Huffed and puffed and delivered plenty of decent crosses that no one was able to get on the end of.
Smallwood... 6 . Plenty of effort as usual, and very harshly booked which reduced his influence in the second half. Subbed (wisely) presumably for fear of him doing a Bennet.
Antonnson... 4 Poor. This lad is a lightweight and can go back to Leeds anytime he wants.
Dack...... 7 . All action display until he tired in the last 15. The player most likely to make things happen in Harry Chapman's unfortunate abscence.
Graham...5. Had his work cut out against the Fleetwood CH's but too much backing in and holding and not enough actually 'going' for the ball in aerial challenges. Rarely get's his feet of the ground these days tbh.

Subs
Evans...3 Poor . Did nothing to suggest that he wants a place in the starting line up.
Nuttall... 6 Nice little cameo which included his 1st Senior goal. Not seen enough to comment but a strong build and looks promising. Was this his 1st team debut?
Hart... 3 I think he was introduced to assist Williams who was clearly struggling against his winger.... If that was the intention then quite simply he didn't.

 

[Alan]

Thanks Drog. A very good summary. Nuttall has played in the first team before, if you can call it that, when he scored against Stoke in the Carabao cup.

 

[Barmitzvah Boy]

Now I can't quite put my finger on why but I'm experiencing a certain feeling of Deja Vu this morning. What could it be?
Let me view the facts...... A post match feeling of being fortunate to get a draw against a team from a small unfancied Northern Town with a German manager. A team (in the true sense of the word) of obviously extremely fit professional football players who looked a yard quicker and a couple of stones lighter than our mob and carried a very professional never-say-die attitude. A team with a typically professional Germanic approach to the task in hand who began with a game plan and stuck to it. A team who when not in possession of the ball presented a solid 5-3-2 formation which switched seamlessly to fast breaking 3-5-2 when in possession*. A team in which every player knew his role and gave a thoroughly professional and workmanlike performance. Hmmmmmm.... Ermmmmm.... Got it! ....... Huddersfield Town and David Wagner!

* N.B. the alliteration of the word 'professional' is completely intentional. These lads appear to have a certain pride in their profession and more importantly in themselves. Compared to our (admittedly improved on last season) collection of misfits, has beens and never will be's.

Goodness only knows how we would have fared if Huddersf sorry Fleetwood had scored first. I've a feeling we could have easily lost by 2 or 3 goals in that eventuality. If ever there was a comment to be made on the difference between a team managed by an ex centre forward and one managed by an ex centre half this was it. I've been bemoaning the fact that by the time we've played half a dozen triangular passes before finally managing to put a cross in that the opposing defence and GK are in position, facing the right way and close to their 'man'. Defending then becomes so much easier. Not so for Fleetwood. As soon as either winger gained a yard (or in Derick Williams case 2 0r 3 yards) the ball was swung into the danger area. The age old advice to wingers of .... Don't look up, just stick it on the penalty spot and if there isn't a forward there then it's them who'll earn the post match dressing room bollocking and not you!

So a goal up twice and with comfortable thoughts of 3 points dashed each time we have at least managed to scramble back into 6th position. On performances to date I've virtually given up on a top 2 automatic promotion and tbh we are looking like an outfit likely to finish out of the play offs and above half way. Pretty much where Big Sam had us in the Premier League when he was sacked and where Gary Bowyer usually had us in the Championship when he was also sacked. What is it about the Indian owners that they need to sack decent Manager's? Maybe I should also ask significant sections of the supporters the same question.

So moving on... two matches running we've had a dodgy Referee. Darren Drysdale appeared to believe that he was the main attraction and that we had turned up to watch him. Vain Referees being the worst sort imo, he's obviously unaware of the old truism that the best referee is the one that you don't notice.

Raya....5. This lad is an enigma. He does the difficult stuff well and then screws up on the simple things. A string of good saves ruined by his usual Dracula approach to crosses. He's scared stiff of them. I'd suggest Rossler had done his homework well on Raya as most Fleetwood corners saw him pressured by Fleetwood players (odd that our strikers allowed Cairns in the Fleetwood goal lots of time with the ball at his feet instead of rushing in on him because to me he looked less than comfortable with his kicking). Earned a deserved and blistering bollocking from Dack after his rick allowed Fleetwood their 2nd equaliser.
Nyambe... 5. Big and strong but with little ability in attack or defence. Rugby might be more suited to his talents.
Downing... 6. Did fine overall but was poorly positioned and slow to react to Fleetwoods 1st goal after Mulgrew failed to win Cairn's long punt.
Mulgrew.... 6 See above. Too easily beaten in the air for Fleetwoods 1st.
Williams... 6. Bitter sweet night. Involved in EVERY goal, both ours and theirs! Nearly scored with a cracking volley that just missed the target but again defended poorly. Asleep and poorly positioned for their first and was caught ball watching and left trailing in the wake of the scorer. I think his lack of pace on the turn causes him to stand to far away from his winger leading to far too many crosses coming from his winger. Did so many poor things that whilst awarded MoM by Peter Jackson's jewellers for his attacking influence no way was he my choice for that award.
Conway.... 6 Huffed and puffed and delivered plenty of decent crosses that no one was able to get on the end of.
Smallwood... 6 . Plenty of effort as usual, and very harshly booked which reduced his influence in the second half. Subbed (wisely) presumably for fear of him doing a Bennet.
Antonnson... 4 Poor. This lad is a lightweight and can go back to Leeds anytime he wants.
Dack...... 7 . All action display until he tired in the last 15. The player most likely to make things happen in Harry Chapman's unfortunate abscence.
Graham...5. Had his work cut out against the Fleetwood CH's but too much backing in and holding and not enough actually 'going' for the ball in aerial challenges. Rarely get's his feet of the ground these days tbh.

Subs
Evans...3 Poor . Did nothing to suggest that he wants a place in the starting line up.
Nuttall... 6 Nice little cameo which included his 1st Senior goal. Not seen enough to comment but a strong build and looks promising. Was this his 1st team debut?
Hart... 3 I think he was introduced to assist Williams who was clearly struggling against his winger.... If that was the intention then quite simply he didn't.

You were clearly impressed by Whittingham, or was it a ‘Drog Test’. I must say his ball distribution was excellent, the only one to make forward passes of any note. Pity he cops out of every 50:50 and perhaps every 60:40 challenge.

 

[Drog]

Oooops......... I think Whittingham has that effect on a few.

 

[dingles staying down]

You were clearly impressed by Whittingham, or was it a ‘Drog Test’. I must say his ball distribution was excellent, the only one to make forward passes of any note. Pity he cops out of every 50:50 and perhaps every 60:40 challenge.

Only problem is that it takes 20 minutes for him to pass the ball losing any forward momentum. BTW it is only one pass in 3 that goes forward, the other 2 tend to go sideways. How many games have we won with him in the side compared to when he isn't?

 

[chor808]

Let's see how Chorley get on tonight.