Formula 1

[davebirch]

I know it's not F1, but last night I watched a doco on Wayne Gardener Motrcycle GP winner. He came from a very ordinary background, and was destined to be a fitter and turner.
Very very interesting from all points of view. Danger, injuries, how he got started, what motivated him.
Fascinating and kept me watching til the end.
Having said that, those riders are complete nutters with a death wish.

 

[Drog]

Bike racing on dedicated circuits is pretty safe Dave. The nutters are the ones who ride in the IoM tt races where one mistake frequently proves fatal.
I might be wrong but I did hear that Carl fogarty never passed a motor bike test and never rode on the public roads.

 

[davebirch]

Drog, If you ever get to see this, it's called "Wayne", you might change your mind.
It shows Gardner on a 250cc bike (three cylinder) and then getting on one of the four cylinder bikes. He was all over the place, he couldn't handle the power.
As I said, complete nutters.

 

[Wilpshire Blue]

Unbelievable sight in today's Bahrain GP
Romain Grosjean hits a barrier on the first lap.
His car breaks in two and bursts into a flaming inferno.
Romain calmly jumps out and walks to the medics car.
Lucky lad.

Romain Grosjean's miracle escape from fireball Haas crash at Bahrain GP

Romain Grosjean is being treated for burns to his hands and will stay in hospital overnight after miraculously walking away from a huge first-lap crash at the Bahrain GP that saw his Haas car split in two and burst into flames.

www.skysports.com

 

[Alan]

Unbelievable sight in today's Bahrain GP
Romain Grosjean hits a barrier on the first lap.
His car breaks in two and bursts into a flaming inferno.
Romain calmly jumps out and walks to the medics car.
Lucky lad.

Romain Grosjean's miracle escape from fireball Haas crash at Bahrain GP

Romain Grosjean is being treated for burns to his hands and will stay in hospital overnight after miraculously walking away from a huge first-lap crash at the Bahrain GP that saw his Haas car split in two and burst into flames.

www.skysports.com

That was amazing. How anybody could walk from that is miraculous but thankfully he did.

 

[Old Darwen Blue]

If I was him I would pack it in now.

 

[Alan]

Hamilton will not be racing this weekend due to testing positive for Coronovirus. He has of course already got enough points to be champion this season.

 

[Old Darwen Blue]

Hamilton will not be racing this weekend due to testing positive for Coronovirus. He has of course already got enough points to be champion this season.

Who cares?

 

[Alan]

Who cares?

I do for one. He's British!

 

[Old Darwen Blue]

I won’t be supporting anyone who supports a Marxist organisation whether they are born in Britain or not.

 

[Drog]

Marxist? (Is that BLM?) If so he can't be all that British then can he? Talented driver but hardly someone I'd want in the family or to mate around with. Suffice to say he's not on my Christmas card list.

I must say though Al you are confusing me with your like of Louis Hamilton and your dislike of someone who was a thousand times more British than Hamilton and that's St Margaret. How do you judge 'Britishness'?

 

[Alan]

Marxist? (Is that BLM?) If so he can't be all that British then can he? Talented driver but hardly someone I'd want in the family or to mate around with. Suffice to say he's not on my Christmas card list.

I must say though Al you are confusing me with your like of Louis Hamilton and your dislike of someone who was a thousand times more British than Hamilton and that's St Margaret. How do you judge 'Britishness'?

Hamilton wins for Britain. The Thatcher bitch put a lot of it into the poor house.

 

[Drog]

I seem to recall it was almost the exact opposite. She inherited a nation that was already in the poor house, put there by the communist led trades unions through the 70's. The economy she left 11 years later was I believe much stronger.

 

[Alan]

She put most of the North East out of work and a lot of the North West too, many of which were my friends and of course the South East was untouched as usual. I am not speaking for myself as I was lucky enough to get a better job immediately.

 

[Drog]

Cause and affect Al. I know where you are coming from but the root causes of Thatcherism and the loss of much of our industrial might were the likes of McGahey, Scargill, Red Robbo, Scanlon, Jones etc. Those commies wrecked Heath's Conservative govt and sunk Callaghan's Labour govt in 79. They were hardly going to play ball with Thatcher were they? Thatcher for her part refused to let the Union's destroy a third democratically elected government on the spin. Battle lines were drawn up and the decisive battle which she dare not lose was with Scargill and the communist allies of the miners. The miners strike had nothing to do with the supply of coal. It was all political. All this whilst she was defending the Falklands from the Argie's and assigning the SAS to exterminate the IRA before being stopped by a combination of the eu and the US. I'd hate to think where we would have ended up without her fighting those battles on our behalf.

 

[Alan]

Cause and effect indeed but it is my opinion that her fight with those people was for personal glory and not for the benefit of the country and need not have had such a devastating effect on the North of England.

 

[Old Darwen Blue]

I know one thing, if we had a Labour government when The Falklands were invaded then we wouldn’t have done a thing. Gibraltar may well have followed. RIP Saint Margaret, a Churchillian leader from humble beginnings in a small town in Lincolnshire.

 

[Alan]

I know one thing, if we had a Labour government when The Falklands were invaded then we wouldn’t have done a thing. Gibraltar may well have followed. RIP Saint Margaret, a Churchillian leader from humble beginnings in a small town in Lincolnshire.

Never wanted a Labour government. I always vote Conservative but I abhor extremism in either direction.

 

[Drog]

I would disagree on your 'personal glory' opinion too Al and so do YouGov. (neither do I count her as an 'extremist'.
Margaret Thatcher popularity & fame | YouGov

btw Al whilst I was clicking around I found this from the independent Dominic Lawson: Patriotism is why Thatcher's war won her the public's backing | The Independent | The Independent
A decent enough article and interesting too, but I found this quote particularly chilling from a young fresh faced anti war and anti democratic (the Falkland islanders have no right to choose their own future) Tony Blair whose high hopes of taking the Tory stronghold Beaconsfield for Labour were 'annihilated' by the Falklands campaign, "The thing I learned from Beaconsfield is that wars make prime ministers popular."
Perhaps David Kelly. the Iraqi nation and the entire weapons of mass destruction had their roots in Thatcherism and that night in Beaconsfield 83?

 

[Alan]

We will have to disagree then, both with her personal glory and her extremism.