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Drog

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Hardly 'historic' dave, but a win is a win. It was down to a basic professional approach imo. The aussies aren't here to entertain, they are here to retain the ashes. It's like in football and England v Italy / Germany. We want to win in style but at the top level that usually ends with us falling between two stools.
 

Drog

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This.... " But what is it going to look like if they don’t? How would defeat affect the intersection of objective reality and cult dogma? How much deeper they can go into this thing before it starts to eat itself? "
Happens a lot in football too. We can all recall KK's attack attack attack philosophy at NUFC which won them nowt but friends. Also football's most ridiculous statistics ... the ones about possession. As an example (I can't be bothered researching this) but I wouldn't mind betting that Luton's possession stats for last season would be the lowest of any promoted team over the past decade. In fact one could apply that to the past two seasons when in 21/22 they only missed out on promotion by a whisker. In boxing who can ever forget the Ali-Foreman rope a dope fight?
 

Drog

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I'm sick of this and the bugger who caused it.....
Yorkshire racism scandal: ECB recommends £500,000 fine and points deductions - BBC Sport

When all along he is guilty of the self same offences which now appear to have been swept under a very thick carpet somewhere.....
Azeem Rafiq accused of anti-Semitism, homophobia and fat-shaming kids in explosive claims | Daily Mail Online


And poor old Stokesy is obviously having to read this which I'm sure some lawyer will have written for him...
Stokes calls for more diversity in English cricket after damning report | Watch (msn.com)
 

Alan

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I'm sick of this and the bugger who caused it.....
Yorkshire racism scandal: ECB recommends £500,000 fine and points deductions - BBC Sport

When all along he is guilty of the self same offences which now appear to have been swept under a very thick carpet somewhere.....
Azeem Rafiq accused of anti-Semitism, homophobia and fat-shaming kids in explosive claims | Daily Mail Online


And poor old Stokesy is obviously having to read this which I'm sure some lawyer will have written for him...
Stokes calls for more diversity in English cricket after damning report | Watch (msn.com)
It's amazing that the Yorkshire cricket authorities didn't make a lot more of the bugger's anti Semitism. I don't know how he can hold his head up and accuse anybody else of racism. Too right he should be unemployable.
 

Drog

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They pandered to him on talksport like he was a holocaust survivor.
 

Drog

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Right it's not in the spirit of English cricket ... more akin to the spirit of pakistani cricket but it was legal.


however imo blame for losing this test must be taken by the team for playing poorly on day one plus the ridiculously cheap wickets give away schoolboy errors, especially the unprofessional first innings dismissals of pope and duckett. England must not let this detract from the overall story.

Meanwhile I'd suggest bringing in Alex Ferguson to manage the team who would turn this issue into forming a siege mentality in the team and turn the entire test series around by injecting much needed grit, determination and professionalism into their game. Rem it's headingly next where proper test match cricketing attitude is a must.
 
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Drog

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3rd test from Headingly and it's Aussies 72 for 3 at the moment. Need to get Smith out quickly and we are cooking on gas.
 

Drog

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England 237 all out after another rescue act by Stokes who scored 80 and go his side within touching distance of the aussies. He needed help and he didn't get much.
 

Drog

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No but I'll be catching it on TV Husky.

My prediction is that England will go full on bazball from the off and throw caution to the wind as this is another 'must win' if England want to regain the ashes. Looking at the weather forecast for Manchester it's suggesting a rain affected test which usually results (along with predictably slow play from the Aussies) in a draw and the series effectively over as even a win at the Oval would result in the Australians retaining the Ashes.
 

Old Darwen Blue

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No but I'll be catching it on TV Husky.

My prediction is that England will go full on bazball from the off and throw caution to the wind as this is another 'must win' if England want to regain the ashes. Looking at the weather forecast for Manchester it's suggesting a rain affected test which usually results (along with predictably slow play from the Aussies) in a draw and the series effectively over as even a win at the Oval would result in the Australians retaining the Ashes.
Bingo!
 

Drog

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England hammering the Aussies at OT. Just watch the weather screw it up now. I mus say the month to play a test at OT must surely be May. I think we've had two dry St Swithins days in the last 10 years. Anyway no matter, Lancs and yorks have been sidelined next year. No test north in either counties! Southern bastards have kicked Northern cricked fans in the teeth good and proper.:mad:
 

Drog

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When the going get's tough...
 

Husky

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England's greatest test victory . . . :eek:

NOBODY had this on their cards at the end of day 2 when India had a 175 run lead on first innings with 3 wickets still in hand.

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https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/68122808

And 'one of our own' was the bowling hero 🌹 . . .

I must admit it has been a bit difficult to keep up with this test due to the 4am GMT start time and the disgraceful fact that there is not even a highlights show on terrestrial TV.
Fortunately I have access to BT Sports (now TNT Sports) at the moment so can at least watch extended highlights at 6pm today.

As a side note West Indies also won an exciting test in Australia by just 8 runs.
 

Drog

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A really top win! Unexpected too but Greatest test victory? How old was the journo? 15?
 
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