Barmitzvah Boy
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Just seen this on Twitter, which property did it come from, how did the bloke get it? I am not suggesting the man obtained it illegally but questions need to be asked.
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Jack Walker House Plaque for Sale - why?!!
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ABBEY
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post deleted if true about photoshopped
steve w
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It would if it wasn't an Asians house
As with most places Blackburn has "right to buy" on council/association properties so perhaps this guy does own the property. If so then the plaque was probably an oversight in the sale not expecting someone to be so piddly cheap and disrespectful. Besides his family but they aren't Asian or Burnley fans so they can do what they like without criticism. Of course if it is council owned then clearly the council ought to block it.
UPDATE-I hear Howard Walker bought it. Now on Ebay for £202.25 (best offers above £200 considered)
UPDATE-I hear Howard Walker bought it. Now on Ebay for £202.25 (best offers above £200 considered)
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Typical of their ilk. No sense of decency, respect, tradition or history. It's a major factor in why their nations have never developed properly imo.
Smells Like Kean Spirit
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I think blue plaques are generally the property of either the National Trust or English Heritage. They are fixtures, not a fittings. Why does that matter? Well, the original owner of the property would have to have provided consent for the plaque to be erected and possibly planning permission would have had to have been granted by the local planning authority (in which case permission should have been sought to remove it). The plaque itself may still therefore belong to the NT/EH - even after being added to the building as it as a fixture, not a fitting. We don't even know who this guy is in the photo, but if the owner removed the plaque, then they might be required to return it to the care care of NT/EH, since it might not be theirs to sell. The same could apply to subsequent purchasers of the plaque.
Clarification:
EH provides the following guidance: https://www.english-heritage.org.uk...plaque/commemorative-plaques-guidance-pt1.pdf
In addition, some choose to clarify the future ownership of the plaque itself. For instance, the guidelines in use by Aberdeen City Council state that the Council ‘will retain ownership of the plaque’, while those of Guernsey’s Blue Plaque scheme state that ‘The plaque will belong to the Museum [i.e. the administrator of the scheme] after its fixture to the building’. Care should be taken in making such statements, and they should ideally be based on legal advice. As is discussed elsewhere in this document (see pp. 99-100), it is usual to find that – once a plaque has been installed – it is viewed as having become part of the property to which it is affixed.
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Questions need to be asked: who legally owns the plaque? was planning permission required to erect it? If so, was permission granted to remove it?
Clarification:
EH provides the following guidance: https://www.english-heritage.org.uk...plaque/commemorative-plaques-guidance-pt1.pdf
In addition, some choose to clarify the future ownership of the plaque itself. For instance, the guidelines in use by Aberdeen City Council state that the Council ‘will retain ownership of the plaque’, while those of Guernsey’s Blue Plaque scheme state that ‘The plaque will belong to the Museum [i.e. the administrator of the scheme] after its fixture to the building’. Care should be taken in making such statements, and they should ideally be based on legal advice. As is discussed elsewhere in this document (see pp. 99-100), it is usual to find that – once a plaque has been installed – it is viewed as having become part of the property to which it is affixed.
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Questions need to be asked: who legally owns the plaque? was planning permission required to erect it? If so, was permission granted to remove it?
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ABBEY
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ive deleted my post as it appears photoshopped
Meanwhile Howard could piss on his Dad's grave and it wouldn't get a mention. White is might.
yoda
Senior Member
What is white is might supposed to mean you numb skull, we are talking about a plaque that honours one of BRFC's best supporters
Useless trying to explain to a Walker Family apologist.