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JDT - Jon Dahl Tomasson

goozburger.

Senior Member
In addition, Elliott Jackson is reporting that Tomasson is likely to leave before the Stoke City game.

I have to say, I'm neither here nor there about it. Tomasson signed up for a certain project and, I think, to implement a particular style in his vision. He hasn't been given the budget to enable that, but he's still persisting with his style, and it's killing us this season.

Am I the only one who gets the impression that he wasn't well-liked by the players?

All in all, and in spite of our chaotic owners, I think it's best if he leaves as soon as possible.
 

Robin

Senior Member
In addition, Elliott Jackson is reporting that Tomasson is likely to leave before the Stoke City game.

I have to say, I'm neither here nor there about it. Tomasson signed up for a certain project and, I think, to implement a particular style in his vision. He hasn't been given the budget to enable that, but he's still persisting with his style, and it's killing us this season.

Am I the only one who gets the impression that he wasn't well-liked by the players?

All in all, and in spite of our chaotic owners, I think it's best if he leaves as soon as possible.
I remember from his time with Malmö FF in Sweden that it was reported that he was a very arrogant person.

There seems to have been a meeting today between players and some group of supporters:


 

Drog

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Surely goozburger it'd be a bigger shock if he was staying!
 

Old Darwen Blue

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Love this comment from under LT story:


InsideBlackburn57 mins ago

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Wow, never thought I would write this next statement - Genius move by you Venkies! - getting rid of the manager so everybody is talking about that and his possible successor rather than you and what a set of c**ts you are and the f**ked up transfer that we are currently appealing. Its called DEFLECTION and everyone on here is falling for it hook, line and sinker. Lots of names bandied about but no-one has factored this into their thinking - Venky scum will not be bothered whether the next manager is any good or not, they will be bothered about the next manager toeing the party line - in other words, they will be appointing a YES man. Say what you want about JDT (and I have my doubts about him as a manager at Rovers) he was no-bodies yes man and ultimately Venkies couldn't control him like they control Waggott and Broughton.”
😀
 

goozburger.

Senior Member
Let's not forget that Broughton was the one that brought in Tomasson. I'm convinced that both have already gone.
 

MattAF

Active Member
JDT sacked today to create distraction that McGuire transfer didn’t go through? I believe McGuire decision is today
 

goozburger.

Senior Member
For all the chaos above Tomasson, I have to say that I'm not bothered to see him go.

It's not just our results that have been alarming over the past couple of months, but the performances, too. The whole squad seems to have had the joy sapped out of it. Say what you will about the hierarchy above Tomasson, but the dressing room under Mowbray was visibly more vibrant and happy than it ever has been under Tomasson. Sure, it's not supposed to be a holiday camp, but I'm convinced the players generally didn't enjoy working under him. Whether that's because he worked them too hard to the point of it being joyless, I don't know, but either way, I think it's a huge factor in why we have been so generally poor this season.

On the pitch, the first alarm bells rang with me during our 3-0 defeat at Reading last season. We got off to a very good start, and may even have been top of the league, but the performance at Reading was right up there with the many away day no-showings under Tomasson. We quickly followed that up with the same at Sheffield United, and some lower profile matches such as Coventry City away. We just didn't turn up at all on far too many occasions, and I think that is down to an underlying problem between Tomasson and the players. The cardinal sin was our no-show at Turf Moor. That was my worst moment as a Blackburn Rovers supporter. Yes, Burnley were too good for everyone last season, but to show no fight or passion against our closest rivals was the absolute pits.

Tomasson clearly came here with "the project" at heart and, I've no doubt, was told of a degree of funds that would be at his disposal one way or another, but I cannot think of many workplaces where you can publicly gaslight your paymasters like he did and survive. The issues in India have clearly killed off whatever was planned. Unfortunately, that's part of life. If the same happened between me and my clients (paymasters), any grievances would be professionally dealt with behind closed doors. I really think Tomasson has stoked the hornets' nest with the supporters without realising that he's just dividing them again.

Anyway, he's history, now. I don't really have any fond memories of his time at the club, even forgetting about the off-field issues.

Looking forward, it sounds like we're going for John Eustace. The key for whoever comes in will be to galvanise the players and get them pulling together in one direction. That's the one big reason I'm glad Tomasson has gone because I don't think he ever had the capacity to do that with his tunnel-visioned philosophy at the club.
 

1SimonGarner

Senior Member
It's obviously all a bit of a mess at the moment but my over riding feeling is that, generally, way too much is expected of managers these days and they often have very short life spans at clubs due to unrealistic expectations. Rovers fans aren't alone is this by any means, but I can't help thinking we have some of the worst.

It's a merry go round. A club appoints a manager, has him for 2 or 3 seasons at most until the inevitable bad run happens and then he's gone, only to be appointed by another club a few month's later until the same happens again... rinse and repeat. If a man that wins the league title for a club like Leicester can get the boot the season after then JDT going doesn't even register on the richter scale.

To a degree it's always been the same but it most certainly got worse over the years. Specifically for the Rovers, we're a club in crisis by all accounts and there are certainly worrying things hanging over us at the moment, but here, as it stands, crisis is a bit extreme. My biggest worry, like most is the financial state of the club and whether we're heading for administration, or what will happen if the Venky's either sell up or are made to?

On the pitch, we're far from in crisis unless you're starting out with the view point that we're former Premiership champions that had K dalglish managing us and A Shearer up front playing in a packed out Ewood. We also had Bobby Saxton and Paul Mckinnon playing in front of 7,000 regularly at Ewood not long before. When we end up in the Conference like Oldham then I'll start to flap my arms around and say we're in a crisis. Off the pitch, we're maybe heading that way and that could obviously filter it's way down to playing matters, but spending nearly 2 full season's up and around the play offs is not a club in crisis and JDT and Mowbray were victims - to an extent - of unrealistic expectations from entitled fans.

As always I'll be there on Saturday doing my main job as a supporter, singing loud and proud during the 90 mins and getting behind every player on the pitch, if that's not your mindset and you want to spread more negativity at a difficult time then you're more than welcome to stay at home.

COYB.
 
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tonygreenbank

Senior Member
I have to say I’m feeling a bit shocked actually. I thought we were on the right track with this guy but I suppose the events back in India have derailed that. We were always held up as a model of a well run football club but since Venky’s took over we are regarded somewhat differently.
I am prepared to believe the people who go every week and the noises coming out seem to suggest that there is tension between the manager and players. It was always odd that Travis the club captain wanted to leave.
I suppose the question now is who is the next manager going to be. I think we are still a club that can attract. Eustace has been mentioned but let’s see what happens.
Ive seen a lot of managerial changes in my time at Rovers but I‘ll always be a supporter. COYB.
 

1SimonGarner

Senior Member
Of course we need them to perform BB, there is absolutely nothing wrong with being disappointed or being negative from time to time if, as I've said before, you balance that out with pro active support and a positive mindset when it actually matters, when the players are on the pitch.

I'm absolutely convinced that some go on Ewood just for a moan, I've seen it countless times, no actual noise from these peoples mouth's until they have something to whinge about. They could REALLY have something to moan about soon so god help us.
 

goozburger.

Senior Member
Has he actually gone officially? I assumed from Gooze’s post that he’d gone but it’s not been confirmed.
Tomasson hasn't officially gone, yet. However, if the LT is reporting that he's leaving and discussions took place today for his exit, I'd be inclined to think he's as good as gone. I really cannot see the situation between Tomasson and his senior colleagues and the Board being repaired.
 

Robin

Senior Member
Have any of the players come out and supported JDT? I have at least not seen anyone do it which kinda makes me think he is not liked by the group.
 

goozburger.

Senior Member
Have any of the players come out and supported JDT? I have at least not seen anyone do it which kinda makes me think he is not liked by the group.
I really do think that there has been tension between him and the players for a long time, but I also think Rovers players were in a comfort zone under Mowbray. It's hard to define that line of hard work versus no pressure from where we're sitting, but one thing you surely cannot have is unhappy players. They have seemed very dejected all season to me, which I don't think is a coincidence with Tomasson not wanting to be here.
 
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