I imagine cheque book transfers are history (finally) and it's all about signing on fees as the players get the bunce that the clubs need more.
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Chaddyrovers
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JDT seems very happy with him.
does that matter? nope. Plus its seems our DoF Gregg Broughton was the main man behind appointing JDT as our next head coach
blueandwhitehalves
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The entire world job market across all walks of life values experience above all else. Thats why youth unemployment is always so high.
I accept thats based the presumption of the average novice being less skilled, and like any average there are people who will defy it. Hughes is an obvious one in Rovers recent history.
But most will conform to the average (why its the average). Bowyer, Appleton, Berg, Kean, Parkes, Kidd, Harford. Football management is so incredibly difficult that if you don't know if someone can do it at a certain level, the chances are they can't.
I hope Tomasson is in the minority who can. But Malmo had won the Swedish league 4 times in the last 7 before he won it twice. So is that a particularly big achievement, maybe, not sure personally.
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Chaddyrovers
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Plenty of managers have made massive impacts has managers.
I am genuinely impressed and excited by JDT. its been a long time since I have been like this and probably since Hughes time here
Odd that the timing was discussed on here as new manager announced first and DoF to be announced a week later. I queried this somewhere on here stating that it seemed to me to be the wrong way around. I get the distinct impression that recent events have most certainly not gone as initially intended.
I'm not sure that I understand the first sentence chaddy but I do feel that you are carrying optimism to a new level with your second. There is no evidence as yet that JDT will be a success in the Championship as far as I'm concerned it's a massive big question mark over his appointment. Remember we are still one of the financial 'have nots' in this Division so his spending powers will be weak. More importantly he wasn't either the club's or your 1st choice when it was confirmed that Tony Mowbray was leaving, in fact out of all the prime candidates i.e. Farke, Carvalhal, Ainsworth, Johnson, Ferguson and the err less prime ones like Carrick, Dyche, Kean I never saw Tomasson's name even mentioned in asides. My suspicion is that behind the scenes there's been another venky originated almighty cock up. Knowing TM was leaving his replacement should have been secretly decided and lined up weeks before the end of the season
The owners have screwed up time and again in recruiting managers with a proven record of two decent/good ones and seven duds. To their credit after bolloxing the club majorly in the beginning they are at least hanging on in there and regularly topping up our depleted coffers.
As for my own opinion I remain unconvinced that Tomasson and the new DoF will be the automatic success that you appear to firmly believe. I seriously doubt that we will finish the coming season in 8th place or above. I don't understand the reason for getting rid of Mowbray any better than I did the sackings of Allardyce and Bowyer. The time to sack a manager is when relegation is within our sights and not when those three were clearly punching their weight in a difficult job. Obviously I hope I'm wrong but in 60+ years of supporting the club only the massive wealth of superfan and super businessman Jack Walker brought us any sort of success whatsoever.
Old Darwen Blue
Prediction Champion 2021, 2022 & 2023
He’s won a national league twice and got his team into the Champions League group stages after four qualifying rounds. He’s also been assistant manager of his country. That enough for you?
To me it’s clear from the recent interviews that JDT may not have applied but was contacted by GB.
Chaddyrovers
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I am very optimistic and positive about JDT and his appointment. He has been a breath of fresh air since being appointment. Exactly what the club needed.
Who knows what this season's budget is but Mowbray had more than enough money here including some cash buys and some quality loans signed here
Did Rovers ever have a first choice or offer the job to any one before JDT I believe we didn't. JDT was Broughton's choice and someone he wanted. That's what matter. I don't think the owners have been part any of the process of recruiting JDT apart from a quick chat and authorise Broughton's choice.
I think Jon Dahl Tomasson and Gregg Broughton will be massive success here and over the next 3 years.
Mowbray was rightly let go from the club after 5 and half years at the club. He has done well but he hasn't delivered what he was here which was promotion to the PL. Mowbray has had more than backing in my opinion to deliver than but he failed. Also his attitude and facial expressions in the last 4 months was pathetic and I'm glad he has gone now. I seriously don't get any of this Mowbray's love in tbh
1. I am very optimistic and positive about JDT and his appointment. He has been a breath of fresh air since being appointment. Exactly what the club needed.
He's not been here a bloody week yet and it's the close season ffs!
2. Who knows what this season's budget is but Mowbray had more than enough money here including some cash buys and some quality loans signed here.
Apart from BBD and SG he didn't have much to spend at all. Check this little lot out! We don't even have a player on page bloody 1! You appear to have learnt nowt from the Jack Walker years! They say 'money talks' but in English football it SCREAMS! As for his loans from Liverpool, Brighton and City... that just shows to me the esteem that he and the academy were held in by real TOP managers. The likes of Klopp, Guardiola and Potter entrusting their top prodigies to BRFC to develop under Mowbray screams out ffs! Or do you still know best Chaddy?
3. Did Rovers ever have a first choice or offer the job to any one before JDT I believe we didn't. JDT was Broughton's choice and someone he wanted. That's what matter. I don't think the owners have been part any of the process of recruiting JDT apart from a quick chat and authorise Broughton's choice.
I don't know about any others in the recruitment process but I can tell you that First choice from the get go was definitely Farke. As ever the Rovers failed to have him signed, sealed and delivered before they binned off Mowbray.
4. I think Jon Dahl Tomasson and Gregg Broughton will be massive success here and over the next 3 years.
That can only be Speculation and conjecture M'Lud.
5. Mowbray was rightly let go from the club after 5 and half years at the club. He has done well but he hasn't delivered what he was here which was promotion to the PL. Mowbray has had more than backing in my opinion to deliver than but he failed. Also his attitude and facial expressions in the last 4 months was pathetic and I'm glad he has gone now. I seriously don't get any of this Mowbray's love in tbh.
Has he hell had the necessary backing! See "2". Plus I don't care about facial expressions, they mean nowt. Attitude? Sorry never having been in conversation with him I can't comment. I suspect that applies to you to chaddy. My opinion is based on history not 'what if' Mowbray turned the club around from the shambles that it had become under Lambert and Coyle, the Academy has been thriving, and every year he improved on the season before on a miniscule budget compared to some of the big hitters in this division. As the Manager of one of the 'Have nots' his teams have gone toe to toe with clubs that come under the heading of "Have's". I'd go so far as to say the current overall state of BRFC is a great credit to his management.
Chaddyrovers
Senior Member
I have listen and read every comment JDT has make. Its positive, interesting and breath of fresh air to hear him speak about himself, the club and the plan going forward
He has had plenty of backing in terms of players signed whether for fees or free transfer plus quality loan signings like Harrison Reed, Harvey Elliott, Tobias Harwood-Bellis, Tosin Adarabioyo.
But Mowbray failed to get us promotion which was the goal surely not to mid-table mediocre in the championship. Like I said plenty of times to you. You seem to be happy with mid table championship football every season. I ain't. I want Premier League football back here as soon as possible.
Well Farke didn't come here and I think he used us to get the Bundesliga job. Rovers said they would be DoF coming in this season and that would be interview process that Waggott lead. So who choice was Farke then? cos if it was Venkys then why didn't they appoint him and not let Waggott run an interview process?
That why I put I think at the start of point
His facial expressions at home against Derby County was disgrace and he looks so unhappy cos his idea of playing Bradley Johnson as a false 9 was a sacking offence on its own in my opinion.
The academy is thriving cos of the people who run it and the funding by the owners. Stuart Jones and his team have done a great job and will continue to do so.
Mowbray did a good job overall but failed to deliver what he was appointed to do which was promotion to the PL. After 5 and half of his reign here, Rovers need a new people bringing in if we was ever going to get promotion. He had more than backing in my opinion and time to build a squad to get promotion. He didn't. His tactics between February and April cost us massively and we didn't make the playoffs despite being 2nd on the 1st Feb. That is shocking failure. He miss used Ryan Giles by not playing him on the left.
Rovers have now appointed JDT as head coach and GB as DoF, I am delighted what I have heard and read from both. Hopefully they deliver what we want
I wouldn’t get wound up chaddy it’s like listening to uncle Albert and his navy stories the way drog goes on.
Robin
Senior Member
I'm slightly optimistic here as it will be interesting to see how they will implement the "European model" into our club. I never believed we would get Farke or the Portuguese guy as I expected they would go for bigger clubs/money as they both did.
Tony was good for our club and I liked him even though I lost a bit of confidence in him because of is stubbornness last season. However, he is now gone and JDT is the future of the club at the moment. For those who hasn't read what kind of type he is, have a look at this link: https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/football-news/jon-dahl-tomassons-success-story-24241294
Tony was good for our club and I liked him even though I lost a bit of confidence in him because of is stubbornness last season. However, he is now gone and JDT is the future of the club at the moment. For those who hasn't read what kind of type he is, have a look at this link: https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/football-news/jon-dahl-tomassons-success-story-24241294
davebirch
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Drog, it's a messageboard, with differing opinions.
If we can't accept that, then we may as well give up and go back to the "other side", or worse still give up altogether.
I was one of the first people on brfcs.com, when Lee took over from Rob Ivison.
Lee ran it on the LT computers for a while. It was great fun, then, after a few years it began to change.
Don't let that happen here.
If we can't accept that, then we may as well give up and go back to the "other side", or worse still give up altogether.
I was one of the first people on brfcs.com, when Lee took over from Rob Ivison.
Lee ran it on the LT computers for a while. It was great fun, then, after a few years it began to change.
Don't let that happen here.
Barmitzvah Boy
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Some more information received last night from someone in the home dressing room v Derby. This confirms what some of us suspected.
0-1 at HT and Rovers playing a stinker with Johnson as CF
Johnson rightly “refused to come out for the 2nd half and Lenihan told Mowbray to sit down and shut up and we will sort out this shit show”. Lenihan took charge and Mowbray, as we know, sat in the dugout sulking for the whole of the 2nd half and not once went to touchline.
We won 3-1.
“That was the game when Mowbray lost all the players and the decision was taken that he was leaving”.
0-1 at HT and Rovers playing a stinker with Johnson as CF
Johnson rightly “refused to come out for the 2nd half and Lenihan told Mowbray to sit down and shut up and we will sort out this shit show”. Lenihan took charge and Mowbray, as we know, sat in the dugout sulking for the whole of the 2nd half and not once went to touchline.
We won 3-1.
“That was the game when Mowbray lost all the players and the decision was taken that he was leaving”.
Who’s that with him? BB, OOT, SteveW or ODB or anyone else?
With all due respect drog has been fantastic on this forum. Prefer reading this than the ODS.
I’m a lurker that reads and don’t post much but it’s a fun read. Anyway I’m currently interested in the season ahead and the past is the past. Appointment seems exciting and a gamble as every one is, results matter so we will find out November.
Counter claim by stories I have read is that Lenihan was all due to sign new contract but Mowbray left and he was undecided - assume that’s linked.Some more information received last night from someone in the home dressing room v Derby. This confirms what some of us suspected.
0-1 at HT and Rovers playing a stinker with Johnson as CF
Johnson rightly “refused to come out for the 2nd half and Lenihan told Mowbray to sit down and shut up and we will sort out this shit show”. Lenihan took charge and Mowbray, as we know, sat in the dugout sulking for the whole of the 2nd half and not once went to touchline.
We won 3-1.
“That was the game when Mowbray lost all the players and the decision was taken that he was leaving”.
If it did happen I’m all for a fight in the dressing room to get them up for it.
It was though imho the correct time to gamble on new managerial appointment.
Old Darwen Blue
Prediction Champion 2021, 2022 & 2023
I think this is Lenihans last chance for a biggish contract so if we can’t pay him what others will then of course he goes. At the end of the day the financial comfort he provides to his family comes first. I wish him well.