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Tony Mowbray

blueandwhitehalves

Senior Member
Depressing. Allardyce situation all over again. Wonder if we'll be in League 1 in a couple of years, cycling through 4 managers in a season and eventually settling on Gary Bowyer again.
 

Chaddyrovers

Senior Member
Depressing. Allardyce situation all over again. Wonder if we'll be in League 1 in a couple of years, cycling through 4 managers in a season and eventually settling on Gary Bowyer again.
Depressing not renewing Mowbray's contract?

He has 4 years to build a team for promotion and failed in that aim
 

davebirch

Senior Member
Tony, It's full time,
You only do things to half time.
This club needs someone on the ball for 90 minutes through 46 games, not just 45 minutes through 23 games.
(sorry guys, if that sounds a bit strange, but for me Mowbray is a manager that doesn't complete, doesn't see it through).
 

blueandwhitehalves

Senior Member
This feels like Big Sam deja vu to me. I remember going on TalkSport that night and arguing with Stan Collymore's claim this was a positive move for Rovers. Trouble is all our fans were agreeing with him! Every caller before and after me was celebrating the end of hoofball, 4-5-1, Jason Roberts up front, playing weakened teams away from home.

Of course it turned out to be the single worst decision in the club's 147 year history. Losing us £100m a year TV money ever since, putting pubs/cafes etc out of business around Ewood, killing our atmosphere. Very likely never to return as an established top flight club.

Thankfully we can't lose anywhere near as much this time, and I won't be bothered to say "told you so" anywhere near as long either. But the writings on the wall for me. After Allardyce the search started out with the likes of Martin Jol, then quickly degenerated. This started out with Farke, now its Carvahal (still decent), but I bet it ends up blummin Grayson.

I mean let's be honest, whats the job advertisement?
"Come manage Blackburn Rovers. We can no longer afford the wages of our captain and best defender, our only player who can beat a man, and our only proper right-back. For the second season running we'll probably also sell the player who scored half our goals and you won't see a penny. You'll get stick off the fans if you don't make the play-offs, the club's £200m in debt, and the owners have been on mute since they got hit with a snowball a decade ago."
 
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OnlyOneTugay

Prediction Champion 2019 & 2020
More likely to be Coleman than Carvahal . That might not be a bad shout , if we can afford to pay Stanley the compensation and persuade him to come
 

Drog

Administrator
Staff member
I'd rather have Coleman than Carvalhal.
 

steve w

Senior Member
This doesn't feel like Big Sam deja vu at all to me
TM would not have survived last season if there had been fans in the stadium, and the only reason the crowd didn't turn this season was because (even though we were in another death spiral) we were still in reach of the play offs. Hope springs eternal and we were all hoping for a return to winning ways.
We also didn't turn, because, by and large we could see the players were putting in effort

But the truth is (imo of course) that TM couldn't or wouldn't make the changes that we were screaming out for - This would have been fine if we had been proved wrong - But we weren't proved wrong - our final position vindicated the alternative view.

Our form was RELEGATION form and that is for the second season running - if he had gone last season when we were on the worst run in our history next to nobody would have batted an eyelid

Yes its fraught with risk getting a new manager - but its not exactly unusual in football circles
We need a new outlook, a different approach, a boost, call it what you will - TMs time was done

Safe mid table (aka Big Sam) in the top league was fine and realistic for a club with our resources, , but its not if you want to get there - you have to speculate.
Look at Nottingham Forest - they took a risk losing a manager (that some are touting as possibly our next manager) and from Bottom of the league they are probably favs to get up through the play offs and only just missed out on automatic
 

Old Darwen Blue

Prediction Champion 2021, 2022 & 2023
This doesn't feel like Big Sam deja vu at all to me
TM would not have survived last season if there had been fans in the stadium, and the only reason the crowd didn't turn this season was because (even though we were in another death spiral) we were still in reach of the play offs. Hope springs eternal and we were all hoping for a return to winning ways.
We also didn't turn, because, by and large we could see the players were putting in effort

But the truth is (imo of course) that TM couldn't or wouldn't make the changes that we were screaming out for - This would have been fine if we had been proved wrong - But we weren't proved wrong - our final position vindicated the alternative view.

Our form was RELEGATION form and that is for the second season running - if he had gone last season when we were on the worst run in our history next to nobody would have batted an eyelid

Yes its fraught with risk getting a new manager - but its not exactly unusual in football circles
We need a new outlook, a different approach, a boost, call it what you will - TMs time was done

Safe mid table (aka Big Sam) in the top league was fine and realistic for a club with our resources, , but its not if you want to get there - you have to speculate.
Look at Nottingham Forest - they took a risk losing a manager (that some are touting as possibly our next manager) and from Bottom of the league they are probably favs to get up through the play offs and only just missed out on automatic
Spot on that Steve
 

Marlow Rover

Senior Member
I'd rather have Coleman than Carvalhal.
I was/maybe still am a bit dubious about Carvalhal, but his record since 2015 or so is pretty good. Sheff Wed play-offs twice in a row(they did spend money, granted), Swans ended in relegation but they were dead last when he took over 28th December and finished 18th. Then he's had two successful spells in Portugal, most recently at Braga where they have just finished 4th in the Primera Division and won the domestic cup - his contract ends there this weekend, so he would be available for free.
 

Drog

Administrator
Staff member
'Free'?...... That'll suit our budget.
 

Chaddyrovers

Senior Member
I'd rather have Coleman than Carvalhal.
John Coleman?

Really? I'm lost for words tbh and another name who would be underwhelming and showing no ambition from you. You are very happy to be trending water between Championship and league 1.

I want some ambition and Appoint Webber as DoF and Farke as Head coach would be the type of appointment that would exciting the fans and increase ST sales. Coleman wouldn't increase ST sales and most likely see some fans not renew
 

Drog

Administrator
Staff member
I wouldn't bother bb as a refusal often offends.
 

Drog

Administrator
Staff member
Wimberley? I still rem the chant 'wimberley, wimberly we're the famous Blackburn rovers and we come from wimberley' being belted out in the king George (?) thwaites pub in Islington before our full members cup final v charlton.🤣

Why the hell we all insisted on seeking out the only thwaites pub in London is a mystery and can only be based in the tribal instinct which gets the human race into so much trouble these days.
 
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