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Tony Mowbray
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Majiball
Senior Member
He has had a good start at Rovers and it is bloody nice to see us out of the relegation places. We have a much better chance of staying out of them with him, than with Coyle. It is also good to see us getting some luck in matches and I am pleased Mahoney is finally playing and that he looks good in cameos. I was disappointed he did not start against Cardiff as I had hoped Mowbray would have rotated to add some freshness. Hopefully Mowbray does so against Norwich as we have nothing to lose for me in that match as I'd be well happy with a draw. We have hope with this guy so some credit must go to Senior as he picked him, needs to improve his eye for a player though. Overall he's started well and fingers crossed he can carry it on.
Nice to see you again Stuart, hope the footie is going well?
Nice to see you again Stuart, hope the footie is going well?
So far so good. He has got the team playing much better football. When he sorts out his best team we should see another improvement. I think that the wingers should be Mahoney and Bennett with Mulgrew in midfield instead of Lowe. Hopefully Mowbray will suss him out better than the last few managers.
Stuart
New Member
Good to be able to converse with you again.
It could be better but I'm still really enjoying it mate.
Agree about Mahoney but at least he now has a key part to play in matches.
Majiball
Senior Member
The feeling is mutual Stuart, I am looking forward to posting again. Enjoyment is the key factor!
I whinged and moaned when GB spent 500K on the kid, given he had been with us previously and was released. But he has something about him for sure and creativity is something we lack as a team IMO. I'd start him on the left tomorrow and see what he can do.
Easy to criticise after the event but I wrote this on the other board after the Cardiff match...
2. The full backs have obviously been told to overlap at will which is a tactic no opposing full back likes to face. Similarly the midfield have stopped ball watching and now when the full backs venture upfield immediately drop deeper and wider to cover (Lowe seemed to spend as much time at RB covering the rapidly maturing Nyambe as he did in midfield. Not perfected yet of course because Cardiff's goal came from Williams losing possession cheaply and then being stranded and leaving Hoilett with all the room in the world to deliver a pinpoint cross.
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4. Mowbray by the 65th minute had again used all his subs up. He gives the weaker players 10-20 mins after HT to sharpen up before winching them in and replacing them. A dangerous tactic that no doubt one day will see us finishing a match with 10 men.
We've given two goals away by our full backs being stranded upfield in consecutive matches. Whilst it's good to see us troubling the opposition in this way our players need to get the hang of as the clash sung way back "should I stay or should I go"? Similarly the other players need to know when to drop and cover instinctively. Mowbray after the match was distraught that we had got our noses in front against 10 men yet were still overlapping down the wings when in his opinion we should have been getting men behind the ball and seeing the game out and using Jaoa's pace to catch Norwich on the break.
As far as his substitutions are concerned going early with them will one day bite us on the arse but on the other hand it led to an excellent display by Jaoa and with a little luck a hat trick for him.
2. The full backs have obviously been told to overlap at will which is a tactic no opposing full back likes to face. Similarly the midfield have stopped ball watching and now when the full backs venture upfield immediately drop deeper and wider to cover (Lowe seemed to spend as much time at RB covering the rapidly maturing Nyambe as he did in midfield. Not perfected yet of course because Cardiff's goal came from Williams losing possession cheaply and then being stranded and leaving Hoilett with all the room in the world to deliver a pinpoint cross.
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4. Mowbray by the 65th minute had again used all his subs up. He gives the weaker players 10-20 mins after HT to sharpen up before winching them in and replacing them. A dangerous tactic that no doubt one day will see us finishing a match with 10 men.
We've given two goals away by our full backs being stranded upfield in consecutive matches. Whilst it's good to see us troubling the opposition in this way our players need to get the hang of as the clash sung way back "should I stay or should I go"? Similarly the other players need to know when to drop and cover instinctively. Mowbray after the match was distraught that we had got our noses in front against 10 men yet were still overlapping down the wings when in his opinion we should have been getting men behind the ball and seeing the game out and using Jaoa's pace to catch Norwich on the break.
As far as his substitutions are concerned going early with them will one day bite us on the arse but on the other hand it led to an excellent display by Jaoa and with a little luck a hat trick for him.
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ABBEY
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Last nights epic fight back would not of happened under chimphead .
blueandwhitehalves
Senior Member
Done a very good job so far and I'm confident he'll keep us up. Haven't changed my view in the long-term though that his career is patchy at best.
He's also another manager that nobody but us and a joke club have wanted in years. In Coyle's case us and Houston Dynamos, in Mowbray's, us and Coventry. Contrast that to Lambert who we beat QPR and Fulham in the race for.
I'll get behind him and enjoy the bump while it lasts (hopefully well into next season) but sooner or later I think we'll start to struggle under him.
He's also another manager that nobody but us and a joke club have wanted in years. In Coyle's case us and Houston Dynamos, in Mowbray's, us and Coventry. Contrast that to Lambert who we beat QPR and Fulham in the race for.
I'll get behind him and enjoy the bump while it lasts (hopefully well into next season) but sooner or later I think we'll start to struggle under him.
Crikey! We'll struggle under anyone with lower league money to spend in the Championship.
For my part I saw our players playing 10% under their potential with Coyle in charge, now most of them are playing 10% over their potential. They really are looking 20% better and believe it or not fitter too. Self belief and a disciplined approach breeds confidence. Long term who knows, but most manager's run their course at clubs sooner or later don't they?
For my part I saw our players playing 10% under their potential with Coyle in charge, now most of them are playing 10% over their potential. They really are looking 20% better and believe it or not fitter too. Self belief and a disciplined approach breeds confidence. Long term who knows, but most manager's run their course at clubs sooner or later don't they?
blueandwhitehalves
Senior Member
Doesn't necessarily have to be the case, even in recent times there's been quite a few teams make at least the play-offs on a low-paid squad with a tight budget (Burnley and Preston both more than once for example).
And when I say start to struggle, what i mean is the total nose-dive that saw Mowbray sacked by Coventry (0 wins in 10 at the start of this season), sacked by Boro (2 wins in 12 at the start of 13/14) and sacked by Celtic after less than a season in charge.
And yeah on terminology, "mutual consent" means sacked to me if you're doing dreadful at the time. After all, Coyle wasn't technically sacked by Rovers. It's just a sweetener thrown in to help a manager get his next job, no doubt paid for in a reduced termination fee.
And when I say start to struggle, what i mean is the total nose-dive that saw Mowbray sacked by Coventry (0 wins in 10 at the start of this season), sacked by Boro (2 wins in 12 at the start of 13/14) and sacked by Celtic after less than a season in charge.
And yeah on terminology, "mutual consent" means sacked to me if you're doing dreadful at the time. After all, Coyle wasn't technically sacked by Rovers. It's just a sweetener thrown in to help a manager get his next job, no doubt paid for in a reduced termination fee.
Majiball
Senior Member
So how are we all feeling now towards TM?
I'll be honest I had hoped for more after a good start, we should have hung on at Norwich and against Preston and I feel these results have cost us dear. Saturday was a disaster of a day, rallying the fans and delivering earpy surrender just smacks of poor management. I am not sure if I would keep him on next year (yes I am aware the lunes track record), but I am curious how others feel in this regard.
I'll be honest I had hoped for more after a good start, we should have hung on at Norwich and against Preston and I feel these results have cost us dear. Saturday was a disaster of a day, rallying the fans and delivering earpy surrender just smacks of poor management. I am not sure if I would keep him on next year (yes I am aware the lunes track record), but I am curious how others feel in this regard.
yoda
Senior Member
Still trying to find anything positive about the situation. Ok Mowbray got the team in better shape with a bit of fight in them, it all went out the window on Saturday. How does he get any of that back for the next game, have the players gone on holiday ?
Is the club resigned to relegation and all that entails, not seen anything from Senior yet!
The last time we got relegated to the 3rd tier we had debt of about 3s 6d for a milk bill, now we have £sqillions, its not going to end well.
A pity no one listened 7 years ago, instead of berating the ones who questioned the Punatics.
Is the club resigned to relegation and all that entails, not seen anything from Senior yet!
The last time we got relegated to the 3rd tier we had debt of about 3s 6d for a milk bill, now we have £sqillions, its not going to end well.
A pity no one listened 7 years ago, instead of berating the ones who questioned the Punatics.
yoda
Senior Member
replying to my post I know, I didn't know the players were going on holiday before the end of the season when I posted that
What the hell does that mean? One who openly comments about how quiet the dressing room was after game on Saturday? Like I said on match thread where the hell was the damn inquest? Not saying you have to scream in each other's faces and toss inanimate objects around but it would have been hell of a lot better than nothing.
Otto Mann
Senior Member
I would have thought it was self explanatory.
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ABBEY
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There should have been cups thrown ,doors kicked off hinges and by the sounds it strips torn off the gutless players who represent the town .