The next Rovers manager

[blueandwhitehalves]

Well we are poles apart on TM but I 100% agree that the sacking of Big Sam is without doubt one of the worst decisions in our history.
Losing Williams, Finn, Goodman et al runs it close but it was all part of the same process.

Venkys ownership is top of the list for me - but in fairness - our owners wanted to sell and Venkys made the offer, chatted shit - like new owners do (Burnley fans will soon realise that too) and we sold to them
Nobody could have foreseen the degree of the slow, total destruction that has followed.

This story is not going to have a happy end!!

Yeah I mean to be fair I'm simplifying it a bit that it was just the Big Sam sacking.

Tracing it right back, its depressingly the lack of care taken by the Rovers Trust in finding a suitable broker for the sale. That led to Darth Sidius/Jerome Andersen, that led to Venkys, that led to Darth Vader/Steve Kean, and that led to Allardyce/Williams/Finn out the door and the end of Rovers as a PL club.

I think the reason Sam's sacking is so galling to me though, is that Rovers had already had the warning of how precarious our status was when the Ince appointment nearly took us down. Everyone in football also knew by then that if clubs Rovers size got relegated, they likely never came back (barring 1 fluke season every couple of decades).

All that demanded the safest pair of hands possible for Rovers. Stylistic play be damned, Big Sam was the perfect manager for us.

 

[Barmitzvah Boy]

I loved Big Sam. He is the same as me: big; bombastic; no time for fools; handsome and successful at what we are good at.

He would not touch us with a barge pole now.

 

[Old Darwen Blue]

Farke been offered 1 million a year to coach us and a huge promotion bonus.

Really?

 

[Old Darwen Blue]

I loved Big Sam. He is the same as me: big; bombastic; no time for fools; handsome and successful at what we are good at.

He would not touch us with a barge pole now.

He’s as bent as a nine bob note though some may say? Not me of course.

 

[Chaddyrovers]

Sacrilege !

Big Sam was an excellent manager . He maintained Premier League football for the Rovers , something we’re now absolutely desperate to achieve and what thanks did we give him ? Many supporters booed him and the club sacked him - talk about lack of ambition and overblown entitlement !

I enjoyed his football probably more than any other manager we’ve had since Mark Hughes . I loved the way he got under the skin of of the foreign football intelligentsia . A joy to watch , much better than the mind numbing, sideways , possession at all costs football imported from the continent . Boring !!!

To be fair I didn’t know he wanted out to the Middle East , but if we’re going to sack a manager for that reason , Dalglish should have been potted because he wanted to go back to Liverpool half way through his contract . That was terrible disloyalty to Uncle Jack , but that’s football for you .

UTR

Mark Hughes's football was totally different and twice better than Allardyce could ever produce.

Well, thats the reason:

1. Our annual revenue is £15m instead of £130m.
2. Our crowds are 13,000 instead of 25,000.
3. Our squad is mostly free/under-£1m transfers and academy players, instead of full internationals.
4. It'll likely take decades to get into the PL again by luck, and when we do it'll only be for 1 season. Rather than being established there in mid-table.
5. The Aqueduct, the Manxman, the Infirmary etc shut down.

All because of "hoofball" moaning Rightly sacked? Worst decision in Rovers history.

Wrong, It was the right decision and the problem was not replacing him with a proper replacement

I'd agree unfortunately. Meanwhile chaddy appears to be thinking that he can win a grand prix race with a rally car.

Wrong, Getting a playoff place can be achieve good football management like Huddersfield and Luton have done this season and Barnsley last season.

Mowbray has had more than enough resources to get a playoff place over the 4 years and was rightly let go, Mowbray had us 2nd on 8th of February and he blown it through his stubborn and arrogant refusal to adapt and changes tactics and style.

I am fed up with trending water in mid table championship going nowhere, I want to get back to the PL days and reclaim our rightful place in the PL. I remember our PL days was happiness

 

[blueandwhitehalves]

He’s as bent as a nine bob note though some may say? Not me of course.

Yeah I reckon he is. But then Souness and Hughes were thugs, as OOT says Dalglish was trying to jump ship in summer '94 (and then did in summer '95).

I thought Owen Coyle was a stand-up bloke, but my morals on football tend to start and end at:
Good for Rovers = top man

 

[steve w]

Mark Hughes's football was totally different and twice better than Allardyce could ever produce.

Yes but only after he saved us from the drop with a defensive set up straight out of the Big Sam play book

 

[blueandwhitehalves]

Like Bowyer v Mowbray though, I think its unfair to compare Hughes v Allardyce.

Bowyer had a high wage squad boosted by parachute payments with owners rolling the dice on a quick return to the PL. Mowbray had a low wage squad fresh out of League 1 with owners reeling from £150m club debt.

Hughes had a competitive squad fuelled by Williams' excellent stewardship plus a few million from the Trust each season. Allardyce had the Trust flogging every asset going to make money before the sale.

Friedel, Bentley, Warnock and Santa Cruz sold before/during Allardyce. They were arguably our 4 best players in Hughes' last season (along with Samba).

 

[Drog]

... everyone in football also knew by then that if clubs Rovers size got relegated, they likely never came back (barring 1 fluke season every couple of decades).

I believe that we could have come back straight away if only the owners had sacked Keane, booted Anderson out of the door and appointed a quality manager

 

[Dunnfc]

Really?

100 pc

 

[Old Darwen Blue]

100 pc

Great news that.

 

[Drog]

Poor ol Gareth Ainsworth. Play off final Sunderland 2 Wycombe 0. Might make him easier to recruit?

 

[Chaddyrovers]

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co....ager-latest-carlos-carvalhal-comments-future/

In the search for a replacement for Tony Mowbray, Rovers are meeting with candidates having whittled down the list of applicants to a shortlist, understood to be at least five deep, and to include overseas options, with those to be held remotely.

Rovers received in the region of 50 serious applications for the managerial position and have now reached a shortlist from which they will select a replacement for Mowbray who left at the end of his contract.

Rovers are looking for a sporting director, as well as a manager, but the search for the latter is understood to be the more pressing at this moment in time, with both running parallel to each other

 

[Chaddyrovers]

Poor ol Gareth Ainsworth. Play off final Sunderland 2 Wycombe 0. Might make him easier to recruit?

Would be the totally wrong option for us.

We want a head coach who will focus on the first team matters like Training, tactics and match day's whilst leaving the Sporting Director to sort out the recruitment and scouting department, transfers and who we should target as signings, yes the head coach should have a say but not the overall say on who we sign.

We need a coach who will play a style that's suits Hedges, Buckley, Dolan, Dack plus will continue to bring through our academy players.

Plus Ainsworth post match said he wants to stay at Wycombe so leave him there. I would not interview him

 

[Drog]

1. We need a coach who will play a style that's suits Hedges, Buckley, Dolan, Dack plus will continue to bring through our academy players.

2. Plus Ainsworth post match said he wants to stay at Wycombe so leave him there. I would not interview him

1. Crikey! We've just got rid of one!

2. In the now immortal words of Mandy Rice Davies...... "Well he would say that wouldn't he?" I'm pretty sure that Ainsworth would jump at the Ewood job.
btw I was given a great response last night in the local... "Ainsworth would be great, he could take us down and then get us in the League 1 play offs".

 

[Chaddyrovers]

1. Crikey! We've just got rid of one!

2. In the now immortal words of Mandy Rice Davies...... "Well he would say that wouldn't he?" I'm pretty sure that Ainsworth would jump at the Ewood job.
btw I was given a great response last night in the local... "Ainsworth would be great, he could take us down and then get us in the League 1 play offs".

1. Mowbray has failed in the last 4 years to get promotion from this league to the Championship. He can't take us to PL or even finish top 6. He was righty let go. also each season of those 4 he has always suffer a massive dip in form that means we finish mid table championship. I am sorry to say this but this is unacceptable anymore and we backed Mowbray in each of the season and his plan for promotion which didn't happen. I don't think we will ever agree on this.

Moving on from Mowbray we need a next appointment to take us to the PL and IMO back where we belong. I think someone like Farke and Carvalhal are a massive improvement/upgrade on Stubborn Mowbray. If we can't get either or agree terms then I would look at Xisco Munoz.

I don't think this is a role for first time head coach like Michael Beale or Duncan Ferguson now.

2. On Ainsworth, I think he wouldn't be the right fit for the head coach role here now or do I think he fits our squad

 

[steve w]

Like I said earlier I don't generally get involved because its all just guess work - and that is even more so with our owners
I also don't follow any other teams closely enough to draw real opinions on their managers, Results talk like any other business - I just hope we pick the best available candidate,
Whether we have people in place with good enough judgement is my main concern. I suspect we will go for the cheapest option

But on Ainsworth
I like him because he is a bit different and is good for the game in general, but listening to him last night he doesn't sound the brightest
He almost seemed pleased to be staying in league 1 and whilst I admired his honest opinion Sunderland controlled them, he was trotting out the old platitude "we go again"
Not until next season fella

As for his style of football, I haven't watched enough to comment but the fact he is even willing to play an 18stone, 40 year old worries me that he may be a TM type - way to loyal to players that should be no where near the first eleven

Congratulations to Corey Evans a much maligned figure for us - when he played our record was much better than when he didn't

 

[Chaddyrovers]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1528328527971500034

 

[Dunnfc]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1528328527971500034

He won’t have a clue no one close to Ewood does. They can draw up a shortlist all they like but it will be the owners making this one. There not working together.

 

[Drog]

To bin a good manager off without having someone virtually signed sealed and delivered just doesn't make sense. I honestly believed the way Mowbray was ousted that we already had a manager waiting in the wings who would have taken over straight away after the season ended. Maybe we do have one and the issue is a legal one to wait until TM's contract actually finishes before some one is announced as the new manager and all this 60 down to 5 is just box ticking?