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The real Brexit thread

Drog

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I'd wager she'd be lacing up her cherry reds to give em all a good kicking.
 

Drog

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Can you accurately define the classes for us Abbey? Apart from the blue bloods aren't 90% of everyone else 'middle class' these days? I suppose you could say anybody who works in overalls is working class but most of them will own two cars, dine out regularly and take 2/3 overseas holidays a year. The rest prob work in offices and shops so are they middle class?
The term 'Working class' is just an outdated socialist strap line these days. I did ask Benjamin to define the term working class but he's swerved my question as usual and appears either unwilling or more likely unable to even take a pot at it.
 

Drog

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Well put Amo. Except all those middle classes work for a living too, so the term 'working class' isn't entirely accurate is it? Also group 2 will be mainly elevated from your 3rd group. Incentive and ambition being positive qualities. Odd too that imo I'd suggest the average retirement age i.e. the people who will work longest and by definition pay most taxes to support the rest of the nation will be highest in group 2...... therefore the term 'working class' applies more aptly to them doesn't it?

I'll give you an example to ponder amo. Anyone earning just £125000 in one single year will pay more tax than someone earning £15000 will pay in their entire working life! Shouldn't the providers have more say in the governing of this nation? The failing of democracy imo is that any one individual in each one of those groups (including convicts) has exactly the same single vote.
 

yoda

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Well put Amo. Except all those middle classes work for a living too, so the term 'working class' isn't entirely accurate is it? Also group 2 will be mainly elevated from your 3rd group. Incentive and ambition being positive qualities. Odd too that imo I'd suggest the average retirement age i.e. the people who will work longest and by definition pay most taxes to support the rest of the nation will be highest in group 2...... therefore the term 'working class' applies more aptly to them doesn't it?

I'll give you an example to ponder amo. Anyone earning just £125000 in one single year will pay more tax than someone earning £15000 will pay in their entire working life! Shouldn't the providers have more say in the governing of this nation? The failing of democracy imo is that any one individual in each one of those groups (including convicts) has exactly the same single vote.
Two votes if you are a student Corbynistra

 

Benjamin Kaynine

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The tribulations of the lameduck prime minister Theresa May this week add to the growing feeling that the internal Tory party war, which has plagued this nation since the mid-1990s, and which has plunged us into the worst political crisis for a generation, is possibly approaching its, hopefully terminal, conclusion.

Come on the 37%, tear your party apart, and take your loathsome Brexit with you.
 

yoda

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The tribulations of the lameduck prime minister Theresa May this week add to the growing feeling that the internal Tory party war, which has plagued this nation since the mid-1990s, and which has plunged us into the worst political crisis for a generation, is possibly approaching its, hopefully terminal, conclusion.

Come on the 37%, tear your party apart, and take your loathsome Brexit with you.
What is this 37% John ? 51.8% voted to leave, many of them Labour voters too, that's the problem that Labour cannot get to grips with. A good third of labour MP's are going against the wishes of the people who voted for them. Brexit is not a left or right issue anyway
 

Drog

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What is this 37% John ? 51.8% voted to leave, many of them Labour voters too, that's the problem that Labour cannot get to grips with. A good third of labour MP's are going against the wishes of the people who voted for them. Brexit is not a left or right issue anyway
He'll never be able to get his head around that yoda. The salt of the earth, two up two down outside bog working class northerners, so put down and exploited voted overwhelmingly LEAVE whilst he finds that he now shares the REMAIN stance of the southern bourgeoisie that he so despises! "No man is an island" wrote John Donne. Well old JD increasingly appears to be doesn't he? I'm no psychologist but I could imagine that he's well down the road to some form of paranoia.
 

yoda

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Paranoia lol, that's as well as the selective amnesia. Being one of the snowflake tribe he is probably developing hypochondria to go on top of everything else. Glass back if ever there was one.
 

blueandwhitehalves

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The tribulations of the lameduck prime minister Theresa May this week add to the growing feeling that the internal Tory party war, which has plagued this nation since the mid-1990s, and which has plunged us into the worst political crisis for a generation, is possibly approaching its, hopefully terminal, conclusion.

Come on the 37%, tear your party apart, and take your loathsome Brexit with you.
Possibly? Hopefully? A "growing feeling"?

Man you must be gutted at how things have turned out since the election. Back then it was confident claims that the government would collapse in weeks and Brexit along with it. 8 months later and you're reduced to fuzzy buzz words soaked in desperation about the government and mini temper tantrums about Brexit.

2022 Jim old bean, that's how long you'll have to put up with this before you can try wheeling a geriatric Corbyn into number 10. Enjoy!
 

Benjamin Kaynine

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I feel sorry for Michel Barnier, I really do. Treks all the way from Brussels (yet again) and pleads with the UK government (yet again) to tell the EU what the UK wants!

Unfortunately, Brexit pensioners have no idea what we get from our EU subscription. It's hard to visualise complex issues when you are on your fourth pint of the morning in Wetherspoons.
 

Drog

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I presume that you mean Anna Soubry? Seems to share the view of most remoaners that Democracy is OK so long as it comes down on their side. She should be tarred and feathered like those Parisienne women in the war who shacked up with German soldiers. #




btw I just had to get the term 'tarred and feathered' in belated defiance. That precise term earned me a one week ban from posting on the 'dark side', issued by that tub of lard from Ossie. His version of democracy being rather similar to the above.
 

Wilpshire Blue

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I feel sorry for Michel Barnier, I really do. Treks all the way from Brussels (yet again) and pleads with the UK government (yet again) to tell the EU what the UK wants!

Unfortunately, Brexit pensioners have no idea what we get from our EU subscription. It's hard to visualise complex issues when you are on your fourth pint of the morning in Wetherspoons.
You do know where Brussels is, don't you?
"All the way" is just a 1 hour flight - unless by "treks" you imagine the poor soul hitch-hiked and walked it with a backpack? :laughing:
 

yoda

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I feel sorry for Michel Barnier, I really do. Treks all the way from Brussels (yet again) and pleads with the UK government (yet again) to tell the EU what the UK wants!

Unfortunately, Brexit pensioners have no idea what we get from our EU subscription. It's hard to visualise complex issues when you are on your fourth pint of the morning in Wetherspoons.
Ok, what do we get from our subscriptions? can you clarify in terms of expenditure and gains.
 

OnlyOneTugay

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You do know where Brussels is, don't you?
"All the way" is just a 1 hour flight - unless by "treks" you imagine the poor soul hitch-hiked and walked it with a backpack? :laughing:
Monsieur Barmier, the Remoaners poster boy , probably "trekked" all the way to London in an air taxi......................

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...n-criticised-over-limited-expenses-disclosure

................but could well be hitch - hiking across the EU with his begging bowl after we've left.................

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/899003/eu-budget-crisis-brexit-brussels-negotiations

.....and too little too late from the Remoaner in Chief

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5357021/Nick-Clegg-blames-sneering-Eurocrats-Brexit.html

In their hubris , they forgot that originally we voted to join the European Economic Community , not a United States of Europe. Those I know who voted leave in 2016 , love Europe ( me included ) but despise the EU .
 
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