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Adam Wharton
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blueandwhitehalves
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I get that its a gamble for club owners or chairman, whoever makes these decisions. You can offer a player a long contract on high wages, thinking you've then got him at the club for a good while or it'll need to be a massive fee to get him out. But then he might get injured or permanently lose form, and then you've thrown up to £5-10m down the drain. That's exactly what happened to Sunderland with Jack Rodwell.
Its always a balancing act in my opinion. We could look to offer him a new long-term contract in January, but is that enough time to know for certain he'll be a permanent top player and repay the investment? We could also leave it until there's 1 year left, but if he is a top player by then, we could just get another Brereton situation where he lets it run out and goes for nothing.
On BB's comment, call me cynical but I wouldn't expect Wharton being a Rovers fan to enter into it. Phil Jones is a Rovers fan and he was off like a shot to Man Utd even when Rovers were still a PL club. If he was my kid I'd say aim for the very top, you can always come back to Rovers in your 30s.
AllRoverAsia
Senior Member
Buckley now contracted to 2027.
I think the powers that be will be talking to Adam and Ash along similar lines and other young players too.
I think the powers that be will be talking to Adam and Ash along similar lines and other young players too.
Otto Mann
Senior Member
I would hope that maybe, just maybe he's a Matt Le Tissier type and refuses any and every attempt to
Mat la Tissiere?
Bloody great moment when Jones making his Ewood debut crashed through successive tackles with Drogba, Lampard and Terry and came out with the ball! Gave his teammates visible belief, lifted the crowd and changed the entire course of that game. As Chelsea sat in the dressing room at HT JT allegedly said words to the effect of "Who tf is that kid?"
Not fair that. Le Tiss should have moved on for his own good. I don't want to bind any player to the Rovers which in the process would damage his chances of playing in the Prem / in European football or even for England.
I recall rumours abounded when Bill Shanks / Livvie were sniffing around that Mekky had promised his dying father to stay with the Rovers for as long as they wanted him.
I understand both Scott (lets not forget his future promise as we gush about Adam) and Adam have the same agent and both will be guided by him and their parents so whilst that situation holds the lads will have their best interests well looked after. Should the time come for them to leave then it's nice to think BRFC will profit financially but should not stand in their way
Old Darwen Blue
Prediction Champion 2021, 2022 & 2023
Adam and Ash called up to the England u19 squad. Well done the pair of them.
www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk
Adam Wharton & Ash Phillips earn England Under-19s call-ups
Rovers pair Ash Phillips and Adam Wharton have been called up to the England Under-19s squad for their upcoming trio of UEFA qualifiers.
Old Darwen Blue
Prediction Champion 2021, 2022 & 2023
He is certainly drawing the attention away from Ash anyway!
goozburger.
Senior Member
A good video summary by the EFL about Adam Wharton.
Thanks for that.
blueandwhitehalves
Senior Member
Doesn't matter for me, no matter how good he gets, he's got 4 years left on his contract so he's staying unless Rovers say otherwise.
And how Daniel Levy has dealt with Harry Kane has shown clubs that you can win the battle of wills with a sulking player if you're willing to dig in and ride it out.
So even if Wharton spits his dummy out at some point, we just say sorry mate, we think you're potentially worth £40m, so if you want a PL move then it's down to you to convince PL clubs to pay that.
And if he manages that it'll probably take him a couple of seasons so we can enjoy him until then, and we can hopefully then buy a promotion squad with the money. So personally I'd wish him well in that situation.
And how Daniel Levy has dealt with Harry Kane has shown clubs that you can win the battle of wills with a sulking player if you're willing to dig in and ride it out.
So even if Wharton spits his dummy out at some point, we just say sorry mate, we think you're potentially worth £40m, so if you want a PL move then it's down to you to convince PL clubs to pay that.
And if he manages that it'll probably take him a couple of seasons so we can enjoy him until then, and we can hopefully then buy a promotion squad with the money. So personally I'd wish him well in that situation.
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Old Darwen Blue
Prediction Champion 2021, 2022 & 2023
Kane has gone pal.
Tottenham accept offer worth over £95m from Bayern for Harry Kane
SAMI MOKBEL: The German giants had identified the Spurs captain as their prime target and they appear to have landed the England star after weeks of negotiations.
blueandwhitehalves
Senior Member
Yeah but with 1 year left on his contract. He's been after leaving the last 2-3 summers, which is when Levy was able to dig his heels in and not let him. I agree once Wharton has 1 year left, we'd then need to sell if he won't sign a new contract (although we may even want to sell a year before that when he'll be at his peak value).Kane has gone pal.
Tottenham accept offer worth over £95m from Bayern for Harry Kane
SAMI MOKBEL: The German giants had identified the Spurs captain as their prime target and they appear to have landed the England star after weeks of negotiations.www.dailymail.co.uk
But that still gives us 2-3 seasons where its the price is right or you're staying Adam.
No surprise there is there? Joe Lewis had ordered Levy to sell him weeks ago.Kane has gone pal.
Tottenham accept offer worth over £95m from Bayern for Harry Kane
SAMI MOKBEL: The German giants had identified the Spurs captain as their prime target and they appear to have landed the England star after weeks of negotiations.
goozburger.
Senior Member
Correct. Wharton clearly has raw talent, but even when he was fully fit last year, he wasn't averse to occasionally giving the ball away in dangerous positions. He will learn from that, and then he'll become the £40m player that everybody seems to think he is right now. Until then, he needs a good, full season under his belt. It could easily go the other way, but everyone assumes that he's already "made it".
blueandwhitehalves
Senior Member
Yeah I totally agree. I rated him 6/10 for last season in another thread, which I don't think went down too well, but was on the basis that he only started 9 games for us. It's still very early days.
But personally I value him at £40m simply because of the length of his contract giving us the power to ask for the maximum potential value he could reach in the next couple of years.
But he's definitely still got a long way to go to get to that, and Harvey Elliott is my favourite current example that it doesn't just happen, its very difficult and will require 100% attitude and application, along with a bit of luck injuries-wise.
He needs to become more solid defensively, better in the air, better at carrying the ball forward, and a bit sharper in his decision-making. The touch, passing/vision and finishing are already there though for me, so definitely reasons for Rovers fans to be excited.
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