• NEXT GAME:no idea
    Sometime in August
    Kick off unknown pm
    No idea where
    Definitely the Championship

Comings & Goings 2018/19 Season

Alan

Administrator
Staff member
Any comments on McGoldrick? I know nothing about him. Is he a target man type? Is he past it at 30?
 

Drog

Administrator
Staff member
I know you were not addressing that to me but my answer is NO. I don't want Lowe here at all, swap or not. If he's on the books the danger is that somebody will play him and you are immediately playing with 10 men. He's that poor.
No he's not. He might not be great either but he'd be in my squad before any of that lot that I have listed in terms of effort and graft alone. I must at this point be fair to Gladwin as I've seen very little of him so I might have misjudged him. However I've seen far more than enough of the rest of the shiftless bunch.

Just as an aside Al now that Lowe and Feeney are gone who are you lining up to target for your ire next season?
 

Drog

Administrator
Staff member

Alan

Administrator
Staff member
No he's not. He might not be great either but he'd be in my squad before any of that lot that I have listed in terms of effort and graft alone. I must at this point be fair to Gladwin as I've seen very little of him so I might have misjudged him. However I've seen far more than enough of the rest of the shiftless bunch.

Just as an aside Al now that Lowe and Feeney are gone who are you lining up to target for your ire next season?
No ire. Just my opinion of two very poor players who I'm glad to see will no longer waste a shirt in the Rovers squad.
 

Drog

Administrator
Staff member
Obvious that he isn't in Benitez's plans so it's whethet they want to realise funds or a player off the wage bill. I like Armstrong. As Souness once said of Thommo... 'He's spikey'. He's quick with good control, an eye for goal and imo for one so young punches well above his weight.
I'll list the main members of our squad from last season and put their League 'level' alongside. Obviously we need to 'lose' the 1's and 2's. Feel free to criticise.

Raya... CH
Nyambe 2
Downing 1
Lenihan CH
Mulgrew CH
Williams 1
Bennett CH
Smallwood 1
Evans 1
Armstrong CH
Antonsson 2
Graham CH
Dack CH
Bell CH
Conway 1
Payne CH
Whittingham 1
Samuel 1/2
Nuttall 2
 

Wilpshire Blue

Senior Member
I think Williams and Smallwood could be bit part players in the Championship.
I hope Graham can cut it still but fear it might be a bridge too far and he also will become a squad player rather than a regular.
I still have no idea about Bell’s level, he just didn’t get enough game time for me to make my mind up.
Don’t think we’ll see Payne back at Ewood judging from TM’s comments about whether he can accept being an impact sub.
A lot of it will, of course, depend on what happened last week in Pune...
 

Alan

Administrator
Staff member
Obvious that he isn't in Benitez's plans so it's whethet they want to realise funds or a player off the wage bill. I like Armstrong. As Souness once said of Thommo... 'He's spikey'. He's quick with good control, an eye for goal and imo for one so young punches well above his weight.
I'll list the main members of our squad from last season and put their League 'level' alongside. Obviously we need to 'lose' the 1's and 2's. Feel free to criticise.

Raya... CH
Nyambe 2
Downing 1
Lenihan CH
Mulgrew CH
Williams 1
Bennett CH
Smallwood 1
Evans 1
Armstrong CH
Antonsson 2
Graham CH
Dack CH
Bell CH
Conway 1
Payne CH
Whittingham 1
Samuel 1/2
Nuttall 2
I've not too many arguments with that except that I think that Smallwood is worth hanging on to along with Williams (as back up for LB and CH - just tell him to leave the headers in the opponents box to others) and as earlier commented by Wilpshire Blue I don't think we will see Payne back next season. He's not a poor player but he is already 23 and won't improve much more. I don't want to pay a lot for a bit time player. I also hope that it's not a season too far for Graham.
 

Drog

Administrator
Staff member
As the old song goes..... There may be trouble ahead.........
Danny Graham is by far the highest paid player I understand and his agent is seeking a raise for next season.:worried: And this from a guy who Mowbray usually subs after 65 minutes!

I've been suggesting that we need to bin off Samuel and Nuttall and look for a back to goal target man in the DG mould...... If this isn't resolved we might just need two!
 
Last edited:

Alan

Administrator
Staff member
As the old song goes..... There may be trouble ahead.........
Danny Graham is by far the highest paid player I understand and his agent is seeking a raise for next season.:worried: And this from a guy who Mowbray usually subs after 65 minutes!

I've been suggesting that we need to bin off Samuel and Nuttall and look for a back to goal target man in the DG mould...... If this isn't resolved we might just need two!
If Danny took a pay cut when we were relegated I can understand that but if not he's already well paid and certainly shouldn't be on more than Bradley Dack. He's not getting any younger and this needs pointing out to his agent. Christ I hate this agent thing. The PFA should be adequate representation for any player below the Premiership..
 

Drog

Administrator
Staff member
Danny Graham is worth as much as any club will pay him, and I don't need to tell you that we are swimming in a bigger pond now.
I think he'd do a great job if he returned to Sunderland... and rem they are still receiving parachute payments.
 

Alan

Administrator
Staff member
Danny Graham is worth as much as any club will pay him, and I don't need to tell you that we are swimming in a bigger pond now.
I think he'd do a great job if he returned to Sunderland... and rem they are still receiving parachute payments.
He's an important member of the team currently but he's not irreplaceable. Particularly as he only plays two thirds of a game. Most players are only worth what a club will pay them. Some of them less, though possibly not in Danny's case.
 
A

ABBEY

Guest
If he wants too much , get rid simples . I'm pretty sure TM can bag us a "speedie" or a "Matty".

Sauna chat again I'm afraid, discussion was Peter Crouch . One guy said he was a FA and another said he's not . If he is a free agent im sure even at his age he could fill the Graham void if he goes ,if a deal could be reached .
 

steve w

Senior Member
Is my memory failing me? Wasn't Graham hopeless in the championship last time around? He will be 2 years older too this time!
Course he is making all the right noises (its a Dunny trick) and he did link well with Dack last season but IMO that was a 70/30 Dack lead partnership
So I think a replacement is needed
 

Alan

Administrator
Staff member
Is my memory failing me? Wasn't Graham hopeless in the championship last time around? He will be 2 years older too this time!
Course he is making all the right noises (its a Dunny trick) and he did link well with Dack last season but IMO that was a 70/30 Dack lead partnership
So I think a replacement is needed
I'm not sure a replacement is needed. He got himself a lot fitter during last season but I would like to see an alternative recruited who could be a target man and a foil for Dack if Danny proves not to be up to it next season.
 

Drog

Administrator
Staff member
I'm not sure a replacement is needed. He got himself a lot fitter during last season but I would like to see an alternative recruited who could be a target man and a foil for Dack if Danny proves not to be up to it next season.
Indeed, Danny Graham is a good player at what he does but we need another to share his duties. We've all seen how the performance of the team suffers when he is not there as a target man to compete physically with the opposing CH's and Samuel / Nuttall are put in to do his job. Not exaggerating when I believe that the diminutive Armstrong actually does it better then them.
 

Wilpshire Blue

Senior Member
Problem is, if we do give Graham a new deal on increased wages and then he proves to be not up to it at Championship level (mainly for the reasons Steve W gives), we have tied up a decent wage that could have been used elsewhere.
I suppose if TM thinks it's the best way to use the available funds then so be it.
 
Top