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Drog

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Oh just heard a belter: UK gov't has tried to block ISIS sites but they've been BLOCKED by EU courts! It's a violation of human rights apparently. Like to say I'm amazed but I'm not.
that wants verifying and publicising widely. Wonder how the remoaners will comment on that.
 

Drog

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Change the law. Require immigrants to waive certain rights and agree to certain conditions as a condition of residency. Make immigrants probationary residents. Chip them with a GPS device (in locations not easily removed). If involved in terror, or suspected terror, ship them back without benefit of trial.

If they are already citizens, re-institute the draft. Any citizens involved in terror, or suspected terror, are subject to immediate and mandatory military service. If they refuse to serve, incarcerate them for draft dodgers for an indefinite period (to be served in the Tristan da Cunha, Pitcairn Islands, or something similar). If they agree to serve, then ship them out to serve their country in the same remote islands, without benefit of military training. There they can be put to productive use, like making a proper naval fortification via manual labor (not machines), and taught how to act like proper citizens. If they object, they can be given the option of renouncing their citizenship and returning to the land of their forefathers, with a GPS chip implanted.
South Georgia has been my suggestion for years now.
 

davebirch

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When knives and guns are being flashed in the name of a religion, human rights of the attackers are low priority.
 

Pinkrover

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Title of the thread is 'what can we realistically do', it seems we could again have done plently to stop this nutcase and the other ones.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4571902/London-Bridge-killer-slipped-police-s-net.html

So that is three attacks and it looks like all of them are known to the authorities. There are still hundreds many thousands walking the streets today, disgrace.
23000 on the watch list...them and there family's and the mosque leaders and followers need deporting back to what ever country they came from and if there British born send them to the country's there grandparents and great grandparents came from..!
 

Drog

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Not a chance..... Russia neither.
 

Drog

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Never mind all these expressions of love and peace and togetherness at Old Trafford. That's just a comforter for the masses. We have to accept that the west is at war, might not be what people want to hear but Islamists out there are at war with us. Hate to say this but we got off damned lightly with the terror attacks at Westminster bridge, Manchester and Borough market. No disrespect to any grieving families but one only has to see the carnage in Nice to realise how 'lucky' we were. Worse case scenario imagine if these people had assault rifles / grenades etc and gained access to a school? How about a sarin attack on the underground? 9/11 and 7/7 should have told us what these people are capable of! Only a fool would believe that much worse atrocities won't happen. We should not wait for such things to happen, we need to get on the front foot and detain everyone who is under suspicion and interrogate them until we are satisfied that they are not a threat. Only when that is established then they can either be allowed back into society or deported to the country of their genetic origin. The rest must be detained indefinitely or executed. The welfare of our citizens must always come first.
 

yoda

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Now the Police have released the following info I think there are steps we could take for the future.

"The Met police said Butt was a British citizen born in Pakistan, while Redouane, who also lived in Barking, claimed to be Moroccan-Libyan.

Assistant Commander Mark Rowley said: "Inquiries are ongoing to confirm the identity of their accomplice."

He said the investigation into Butt began two years ago but "there was no intelligence to suggest that this attack was being planned and the investigation had been prioritised accordingly".

He added: "Work is ongoing to understand more about them, their connections and whether they were assisted or supported by anyone else." "

The Moroccan/Libyan could have over stayed his visa, deportation in that case.
The Britpak probably had dual nationality, revoke the British aspect and deport.

Both scenarios would be challenged by the ECJ at present.
 

Victor_Kruger

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that wants verifying and publicising widely. Wonder how the remoaners will comment on that.
I will look into it. The person who brought it up was an internet security expert who works with governments so I suppose he has some cred.
 

yoda

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Big test coming up for whoever the new PM is

"On Sunday 18 June thousands of Muslims are marching through the streets of London in support of Hezboula and other terrorist groups. This is known as Al Quds day and it happens every year. Every year we supply police to control a march that openly carries banners and flags in support of extremist groups. At a time when we are being told "It's only a small minority of Muslims who are extremist" will these non extremist Muslims come out and call for the Al Quds day march to be banned? No, They will join in, as they do very year. Lets see if the PM is as good as her words when she said "Enough is enough" This will be the first test of her tenure as an elected PM."
 

Vinjay

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Big test coming up for whoever the new PM is

"On Sunday 18 June thousands of Muslims are marching through the streets of London in support of Hezboula and other terrorist groups. This is known as Al Quds day and it happens every year. Every year we supply police to control a march that openly carries banners and flags in support of extremist groups. At a time when we are being told "It's only a small minority of Muslims who are extremist" will these non extremist Muslims come out and call for the Al Quds day march to be banned? No, They will join in, as they do very year. Lets see if the PM is as good as her words when she said "Enough is enough" This will be the first test of her tenure as an elected PM."
Pretty sure there will be an attack on a mosque (possibly one accused of radicalising but it could just be someone who hates all Muslims) or Muslim community soon in "retaliation". Not talking general vandalism but something more serious.
 

Drog

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If muslim males want to show that they really do abhor this violence carried out in the name of Islam then I'd perhaps respect them much more if they shaved their beards off and wore western garb. A bit like that Siddiq Khan the London Mayor who obviously tailored his appearance to impress the electorate.
I'm not holding my breath though.
 

OnlyOneTugay

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Big test coming up for whoever the new PM is

"On Sunday 18 June thousands of Muslims are marching through the streets of London in support of Hezboula and other terrorist groups. This is known as Al Quds day and it happens every year. Every year we supply police to control a march that openly carries banners and flags in support of extremist groups. At a time when we are being told "It's only a small minority of Muslims who are extremist" will these non extremist Muslims come out and call for the Al Quds day march to be banned? No, They will join in, as they do very year. Lets see if the PM is as good as her words when she said "Enough is enough" This will be the first test of her tenure as an elected PM."
If it does go ahead it will be interesting if any of the far left Labour MPs join the march . These sorts of events used to be the type that Corbyn and his crew attended to show solidarity with his/ their Palestinian friends
 
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ABBEY

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yet have a fight at footy and your passport is surrendered . Its like the cartoon doing the rounds yesterday which basically said its ok for ISIS types showing beheading placards to shout what they want and NOTHING done , burn the poppies a slap on the wrist but don't you dare drive in a bus lane because the book will be thrown at you. Motorists get more hassle and punishments than terrorists on a watch list.
 
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