Litter

[darrenrover]

Bloody hell, I suffer from lepracy (I'm a smoker) but never do I throw a cigarette butt on the pavement. If I can't find a bin, I stub the cigarette end out with my fingers and put it in my pocket until I can find a bin to dispose of it.

What about the dirty buggers that spit out chewing gum? It's everywhere, sticks to your shoes and then your carpet when you get home.

I don't condone anyone who discards a cigarette butt on the floor but let's get real. Blackburn and Darwen isn't drowning in cigarette butt litter is it? It's pavements are completely covered in chewing gum and littered with irresponsibly discarded cans, chip papers, bottles, takeaway wrappers and the like.

I'm happy that they're 'doing something about the litter problem' as long as they really do do something about the litter problem irrespective of the race of the perpetrators.

 

[ABBEY]

Mate was saying when the gypos were at side of Albion a couple of months back there was shit everywhere ,by shit I mean human shit! Dirty bastards and where was the litter police then ...no chuffin where .

 

[OnlyOneTugay]

That's not what I said. I said there should be places to dispose of them or at least they should be able to drop them on the pavement to put them out with the foot and them pick up the extinguished stub for disposal later but apparently as soon as the stub hits the ground the enforcement guys are there with their little slips of paper and pencils with great delight and a £75 fine. I'll bet that like the traffic wardens they'll leave the Asians well alone.

I agree with you Al , if a smoker was to place his cigarette end on the floor , put it out with his foot then pick it up and then dispose of it responsibly ( almost all in one move) then I'd say he'd be on the right side of the rules . If he was fined for that then I'm sure he'd win an appeal based on the camera evidence. I can't say I've ever witnessed a smoker doing such a thing . From reading one of the Telegraph comments ( which are great entertainment in themselves - we need to recruit of few of those comedians onto here) this is what happened :

" I watched this take place . Double denim man threw his roll up onto the footpath in front of him . Bin feet away . No excuses . He was sat on the wall close to main doors , another bin situated there "

I'm assuming what happened next was he was collared by an enforcement guy/gal and realising he'd been done , offered to pick it up . Too late Mr Lawrenson .

Zero tolerance to litter louts and we might just have a town that isn't drowning in litter.

Agree DarrenRover , I hope they collar chewing gum culprits as well . Your tale reminded me of my late Dad who used to stub out his cigarette with his fingers and but it behind his ear for later use

 

[Wilpshire Blue]

Apparently 50 fines per day handed out during the first week

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.u...the_spot__39__fines_a_day_issued/?ref=mr&lp=2

 

[Drog]

Just had a nice lunch in the Cathedral Quarter. It's a lovely area now and a credit to the town. Anybody who wants to spoil that area deserves the book throwing at them. ..... as for whoever has damaged the mother and child statue (again) I'd put em in the stocks!

 

[Skiptonrover]

You'll never fully control litter at the best minimise, I used to work on a landfill site for yorwaste, craven Leeds & Bradford met used to tip there, it's full now there are on the national grid up there. Employing more litter pickers is the answer I think, it had to be done up there really with the wind blown litter the nets don't manage everything. You couldn't let the Yorkshire dales become a eyesore there had about 4 litterpickers up there constantly picking on windy days.

 

[OnlyOneTugay]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.te...e-must-introduced-turn-back-plastic-tide/amp/

I hope this is introduced without delay . At work this morning and the amount of litter in and around Wellington St John’s is depressing and has risen tenfold in the last 5 years . Much is plastic water and pop bottles . Blackburn is drowning in the stuff .

 

[Benjamin Kaynine]

It's not just Blackburn, the entire country is a disgrace. Travel on any main road or in any town or city or village and the amount of casual littering is appalling.

You can talk all day about the cause of littering, why some selfish and frankly anti-social people think it is acceptable, and the mentally behind it, but the fact is the litter is rarely if ever cleared up.

And the problem has got considerably worse over the past few years - for which you can blame government austerity and cutbacks to public service funding.

In the end, voters have to make a choice. Pay more tax and get better public services including cleaner streets, or have more more money in your pocket and live in a shithole.

It's up to you.

Chris

 

[OnlyOneTugay]

I agree with some of what you say Chris but I honestly think it’s nothing to do with the country living within its means ( aka austerity )

I don’t know where you live but I travel by car down Preston New Road everyday . The Council litter picker does a fantastic job picking up bags and bags of litter on a Tuesday morning . He starts at 6 am and used to finish around 8 but it’s taking him longer & longer due to the increasing amount . The pavements are spotless for around 4 hours and then the litter starts to appear again . To make any noticeable impact you’d need litter pickers in every area of every town 24 hours a day , 7 days a week . The country couldn’t afford that if we had a £2 trillion sovereign wealth fund , let alone a £2 trillion national debt .

The solution isn’t more Council litter pickers it’s people having pride in where they live.

You're right it is up to me . To use your words , I don’t want to live in a shithole so I do a voluntary litter pick in my area of Blackburn once a week ( you’re welcome to join me ) & with other volunteers we stay on top of the problem

There’s a sense of entitlement these days as though some people think it’s their human right to drop litter and think it’s someone else’s job , usually the council to pick it up .

How do we win this battle ? The deposit scheme for plastic bottles is a good start . The Council through litter patrollers is fining people ( and I applaud them for that ) and I’d also get community payback criminals on grotspots . Also local communities doing their bit of voluntary litter picking would help

However until people see it as antisocial to drop litter we’ll never solve the problem so education is crucial and as I’ve already mentioned , having pride in the area / town you live in would help .

 

[Drog]

It's not just Blackburn, the entire country is a disgrace. Travel on any main road or in any town or city or village and the amount of casual littering is appalling.

You can talk all day about the cause of littering, why some selfish and frankly anti-social people think it is acceptable, and the mentally behind it, but the fact is the litter is rarely if ever cleared up.

And the problem has got considerably worse over the past few years - for which you can blame government austerity and cutbacks to public service funding.

In the end, voters have to make a choice. Pay more tax and get better public services including cleaner streets, or have more more money in your pocket and live in a shithole.

It's up to you.

Chris

I'd have thought you might mention 'education' as being the best solution. Why pay people to clear up what shouldn't be discarded through a car window? Education begins in the home and moves onto the classroom and sadly the first part is lacking in many instances. People who abdicate the responsibility of bringing children up to become a valuable member of society shouldn't receive funding to breed.

 

[Wilpshire Blue]

If what OOT says is true and I have no reason to believe it isn’t, then why don’t the lads and lassies in the litter fining team get their arses up Preston New Road?
They would make a frikkin fortune in fines, much more than hoping to see someone dropping a fag end outside Debenhams.

 

[Drog]

If what OOT says is true and I have no reason to believe it isn’t, then why don’t the lads and lassies in the litter fining team get their arses up Preston New Road?
They would make a frikkin fortune in fines, much more than hoping to see someone dropping a fag end outside Debenhams.

Yes but then they'd be accused of racism (probably threatened with violence to boot ) and even a hint of that is a sackable offence.

 

[OnlyOneTugay]

I'd have thought you might mention 'education' as being the best solution. Why pay people to clear up what shouldn't be discarded through a car window? Education begins in the home and moves onto the classroom and sadly the first part is lacking in many instances. People who abdicate the responsibility of bringing children up to become a valuable member of society shouldn't receive funding to breed.

Just been out and on the way home noticed a white plastic bag full of empty fast food containers at the side of the road about 20 yards from a waste bin. Probaby , as you say Drog , just thrown out of a car window . Picked it up and binned it , very annoying .

 

[ABBEY]

Yes but then they'd be accused of racism (probably threatened with violence to boot ) and even a hint of that is a sackable offence.

i was told a few years ago by the traffic wardens they are not allowed up the ranges for this exact reason...here we are 7 or 8 years later and its even worse. I was driving thru last week and its sad i know but i counted over 100 cars on yellow or illegally parked.

 

[Benjamin Kaynine]

I don’t know where you live but I travel by car down Preston New Road everyday . The Council litter picker does a fantastic job picking up bags and bags of litter on a Tuesday morning . He starts at 6 am and used to finish around 8 but it’s taking him longer & longer due to the increasing amount . The pavements are spotless for around 4 hours and then the litter starts to appear again . To make any noticeable impact you’d need litter pickers in every area of every town 24 hours a day , 7 days a week . The country couldn’t afford that if we had a £2 trillion sovereign wealth fund , let alone a £2 trillion national debt .
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You're lucky you have a street cleaner - but there are so few of them and in many places they just don 't exist any more. The local council have given up, saying they can't afford it. We don't need a sovereign wealth fund to pay for a national clean-up - £100 million should do it, the price of one DUP MP propping up this government

 

[Benjamin Kaynine]

I'd have thought you might mention 'education' as being the best solution. Why pay people to clear up what shouldn't be discarded through a car window? Education begins in the home and moves onto the classroom and sadly the first part is lacking in many instances. People who abdicate the responsibility of bringing children up to become a valuable member of society shouldn't receive funding to breed.

I acknowledged that the problem starts with the people who litter, but there's an even bigger problem of cleaning the mess up.

 

[OnlyOneTugay]

You're lucky you have a street cleaner - but there are so few of them and in many places they just don 't exist any more. The local council have given up, saying they can't afford it. We don't need a sovereign wealth fund to pay for a national clean-up - £100 million should do it, the price of one DUP MP propping up this government

Again, you’ve failed to read my post properly Chris , detail old chap , it’s in the detail . It said , I and a few others from our community clean up around our area .We don’t have a street cleaner and would never expect to have one . Preston New Road is one of the main thoroughfares into Blackburn and is cleaned weekly , but soon after the clean up , as I also said in my post , it returns to an absolute pigsty ( or shithole to use your terminology ) for the rest of the week . Perhaps the locals should make an effort to help clean up their neighbourhood , just like we do .

 

[Benjamin Kaynine]

Sticking plaster over a gaping wound. Every little helps but it needs a nationally funded effort to make a difference.

 

[OnlyOneTugay]

More Council litter pickers is the sticking plaster . As I said in my original post , on Preston New Road the Council pick up the litter & within 4 hours the litter reappears .

Education , personal responsibility and pride in your town / area is the cure .