Indeed. Fact remains if I want a mate(s) I'll find one but if I want the best Manager for my football team and got a chance of signing either I'd pay the earth to get them! What sort of suicidal idiot wouldn't?
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1. No I don't. I could just as easily have used Fergie, Wenger, Moyes or Redknapp but we never had any real chance of getting any of those had we?
2. What? Do your sums Vinjay. Steve Kean would certainly have taken us down if the Venkys had trapped up at the start of that season and sacked Allardyce then.
Amazes me how so many revert to selective memory rather than the facts as they seek to prove a point. When I'm proven wrong I invariably admit it. People really should adopt the advice of 'when in a hole, to stop digging'
I'm not saying it was anything Kean offered that helped prevent relegation. That just solidifies my point that there was more than enough time to rectify the situation.
I see Sharpe crowing on twitter about players visiting hospitals, etc even though community activities are probably written into their contracts. OK some might be genuine but there's also the likes of Allardyce who don't give a damn about the communities they represent. Selfishness, arrogance, etc why would anyone want to look up to someone like that? He cares about himself and that's it. It sums him up that he was planning to visit Old Trafford on the evening he was fired despite Rovers humiliated there just weeks earlier. Of course when he was sacked he abandoned his plans. Sums him up.
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ABBEY
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He was off at the end of the season anyway...every chuffing thread is lard arse
He Paved the way for the likes of kean and Anderson to assert influence and power way beyond their ability, and in our case they brought the club to its knees.
He's a first rate ****.
blueandwhitehalves
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OnlyOneTugay
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Why is there this illogical hatred of currently the best English manager in the game ? A game that is rotten from top to bottom and is hardly full of a moral and ethical labour force .
It’s simple , look where the Rovers were then & where we are now . Look at all the clubs he’s managed since. He leaves them in relatively good shape and then it all starts to go wrong .
Another good result for Everton yesterday . What’s that - unbeaten in 7 now ? Isn’t that manager of the month form ?
It’s simple , look where the Rovers were then & where we are now . Look at all the clubs he’s managed since. He leaves them in relatively good shape and then it all starts to go wrong .
Another good result for Everton yesterday . What’s that - unbeaten in 7 now ? Isn’t that manager of the month form ?
steve w
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I don't get it either OOT.
Its completely irrational to me - He was doing "a job" for us - sure it wasn't always great to watch and sure it was frustrating at times (when he virtually gave everyone a rest against the big boys)
But christ I miss watching the likes of De Bruyne, Kane, Coutinho et al week in and out down at Ewood
Its completely irrational to me - He was doing "a job" for us - sure it wasn't always great to watch and sure it was frustrating at times (when he virtually gave everyone a rest against the big boys)
But christ I miss watching the likes of De Bruyne, Kane, Coutinho et al week in and out down at Ewood
Whoa!!! What have we here? Gav saying the wrongdoings, stings, set ups etc carried out by two crooked spivs on the take / make AFTER they had schemed, plotted and dripped poison into the ears of gullible and inexperienced owners to get Allardyce sacked and out of the way was all caused by Allardyce himself!!!!!
Kinell Gav you've come out with some shyte
in your time but that doesn't just take the biscuit it takes the entire biscuit barrell! There is no answer to the following of course as the facts will be rather hard to come by but I'd love to know who 'cost' BRFC / The Walkers most money in excess of their contractual earnings in the past 20 years... Anderson? Kean? Souness? Allardyce? or Hughes?
Personally I'd have it down in that order so after that speculate who actually made most money for BRFC / The Walker Family over that time? I'd have it in exactly the reverse order.
Hughes avoided relegation in his first season with a poor squad, performed miracles in the transfer market and got us a good deal of 'place' money, Allardyce kept us up (twice) when we were heading for the Championship and also punched above our weight in place money. Souness got us promoted of course but blotted his copy book by some decidedly dodgy signings and then departing leaving a relegation bound squad for Hughes to inherit.
And everybody knows the havoc wreaked on the club by the latter pair.
blueandwhitehalves
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I'm sure a psychologist would have a field day.
The Shearer leaving fan reaction was dead easy to work out, mirrored a relationship break-up exactly. One party devastated, no idea how to cope, so substituting sadness for bitterness and anger. Blaming the other party for somehow wronging them ("he told the papers he wasn't gonna leave!" etc). Then a few years later having finally gotten over it and moved on, fans able to talk about him again positively and eventually praise him as one of the best things that ever happened to Rovers.
Not sure how a psychologist would interpret this vitriolic abuse for Allardyce. Lashing out due to some hidden feelings of guilt? Its questionable if we'll ever get back to the Premiership with the changing area demographic and our shrinking fanbase, and we'd have never got relegated under Allardyce. Venkys pulled the trigger but there were plenty of fans happy to cock the gun.
The Shearer leaving fan reaction was dead easy to work out, mirrored a relationship break-up exactly. One party devastated, no idea how to cope, so substituting sadness for bitterness and anger. Blaming the other party for somehow wronging them ("he told the papers he wasn't gonna leave!" etc). Then a few years later having finally gotten over it and moved on, fans able to talk about him again positively and eventually praise him as one of the best things that ever happened to Rovers.
Not sure how a psychologist would interpret this vitriolic abuse for Allardyce. Lashing out due to some hidden feelings of guilt? Its questionable if we'll ever get back to the Premiership with the changing area demographic and our shrinking fanbase, and we'd have never got relegated under Allardyce. Venkys pulled the trigger but there were plenty of fans happy to cock the gun.
Amen to that.
I rem post Bosman/Freedom of Contract that Bolton under Allardyce were one of the first clubs to abandon paying big money for new players who could sign a contract for a period of time and then walk away as a free agent as soon as the contract was up. Bolton were promoted with a squad nowhere near as good as ours but once in the Prem and on a limited budget he offered big wages for top players who were coming out of contract with other clubs (tbh I've really no idea why transfer fees still have a place in football these days). As a result the likes of Djorkaeff, Anelka, Kevin Davies, Colin Hendry, Paul Warhurst. Jay Jay Okocha and the fabulous Ivan Campo trapped up for virtually nothing. That period saw Bolton play some real quality football. Allardyce's problems since then are self inflicted as he has become known as a manager who can prevent relegation by getting poor squads to punch above their weight. Unfortunately the nuts and bolts brand of football whilst necessary for a club's accountants doesn't win friends on the terraces and as soon as clubs are safe the usual delusions of grandeur kick in and they elect to bin off Allardyce in favour of a manager who promises attractive football..... before the new man almost always takes the club down. Shame because I believe if a club will give him time as Bolton did that he would improve the standard of football by getting better players in.
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ABBEY
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He wanted out and would of been gone at the end of the season ...then what
Sick of reading about the walrus
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ABBEY
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Bang on ...there's a zzzzam thread to w++k to...why the hell is every thread a pull your pud to hoof
That can only be unconfirmed speculation tbh Abbey.
BUT if there is any truth in it then how on earth can you of all people lay blame someone for quitting Ewood because of the Venkys??????
Is that like game, set and match in tennis Abbey?