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QPR Thread

Alan

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Probably the worst match I've seen for a long time. QPR came to kill the game from the offset and never stopped wasting time until they went behind. They got their due desserts in the end. The referee too was the worst of the season and contributed to a boring afternoon with his fussiness and yellow cards. The only good thing was the three points.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH DACK?
Just one thing though. I'm glad we got Reed instead of Freeman.
 

OnlyOneTugay

Prediction Champion 2019 & 2020
Final Countdown ?

I intensely dislike that song . Yesterday I heard it playing before the match whilst passing through the Fanzone , when the players ran out and then to add insult to injury , just before the excellent firework display

Once is more than enough Rovers . It’s awful , always has been and always will be . Change the record !

Just realised I should have posted this in the music thread - so all you rockers no need to like it twice :p
 
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geedog

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Tony after yesterdays match
"In my office I don’t have a long list of penalty takers that reads Mulgrew, [Craig] Conway, Dack… if you’re playing well, and have the confidence to smash it in the net then there are no problems".......
So i read this on the web site and cant help but think so this I how tony sees the penalty takers
 

Drog

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What is wrong with Dack? Nothing imo! Scored the goal didn't he?
Simple fact of the matter is that he is being singled out for tight marking and a little bit of 'special attention' from the opposition. Yesterday the fool with the whistle handed cards out like confetti but ignored the most cynical and dangerous tackle from the back which went right through Dack and happened right under his nose. Dack being given such special attention is also freeing up other players. We all know that Dack is short of pace and that his first touch could be better (might be of comfort to some that those are two 'must have' talents for anyone looking to life in the Prem) but he is still the fulcrum and the 'out ball' of choice for his teammates because of the way he holds the ball up and gains precious seconds for the midfield and defence to find forward positions.

On to the match. 15 minutes into this game I had the ref marked down as an incompetent and nothing subsequently happened to change my opinion. I must say that I hope we never see this chap in the middle for future matches. I've never seen so many good tackles penalised in one match as an entertaining and free flowing spectacle became a distant prospect! The original 'never kicked a ball in his life' official who quite simply doesn't understand the game. I simply cannot fathom his thoughts on what a good football match should be about. We didn't come to watch you blowing your whistle for 90 mins you plonker! 15 matches this season with him awarding 6 or more yellows in half a dozen of them. Spare a thought at this stage for Brentford v Nottm Forest on the 1/9/18 when he brandished his yellow card no fewer that 12 times!!! A statistic in itself which means the EFL should take away his whistle and replace it with a flag for at least the rest of the season. https://www.soccerbase.com/referees/referee.sd?referee_id=1668&season_id=151
This table might put his ineptitude into even starker contrast compared to his peers.... https://www.soccerbase.com/referees/home.sd?comp_id=2
Does no one at the top table ever look at these things?

So onto the match. I must say my fear of QPR's recent form was never borne out. Quite honestly they must have been a real disappointment for their travelling fans. How they have had such a good run I cannot fathom. My only crib was that we should have won by at least 3 clear goals to justify the match. 0-0 moving to 1-0 on 87 mins obviously never really allowing us to relax fully. I believe we would have won more convincingly too if only Danny Graham had put his shooting boots on... or more particularly struck the ball earlier with his left foot instead of crossing his body onto his right foot and tipping the %age into the gk's favour. I mustn't crib DG really because his conversion rate is normally pretty good.

Leutwiler.... 6 Never really tested and never really looked totally comfortable either. I'm sure he's not a better reaction keeper than Raya but on the plus side he is much less hesitant in deciding in the words of the Clash "should I stay or should I go". Also his kicking whilst never attaining the quality of Paul Robinson comfortably exceeded Raya's 60 degree lob wedge boot.

Bennett... 6 Not his best match and his passing was decidedly off but as usual he gave 100% effort.

Lenihan ... 7 PJ's MoM. He got his head on everything all afternoon but his distribution will never ever approach the quality of his usual centre half companion. Continually lumping high balls in the vague direction of DG is one thing and especially with the 6ft 3" and 14 stone Leistner in attendance but to continue once Dg had been replaced by 5ft 7" Armstrong is at best and to be kind just a bit 'Irish'.

Williams... 7. Post match pub MoM. I have a feeling this is his best position rather than left back. Again he doesn't have the distribution skills to displace Mulgrew when he is fit again.

Bell ...7 My personal MoM but by a whisker. I've said in the past that he does one good thing and follows it up with a simple goof but yesterday he hardly put a foot wrong.... until a moment of carelessness in the last 5 mins. Looks to be gaining in confidence and forming a good partnership with Armstrong. A pen a strong pen shout and an assist in the last few matches bears testament to his pace and ability when overlapping. The pace of these two must give opponents nightmares.

Reed... 7 Still not sure why last weeks MoM playing in the middle was stuck out wide again where he is nowhere near as influential. Our best option imo is to play Reed in his central role for either Smallwood or Evans and shove Palmer out wide or put Rothwell on the left and bring Armstrong across to the right. I guess we'll just have to go with TM's decisions cos he hasn't given us much to complain about this season has he?

Smallwood... 7 Best of the midfield pair yesterday and put a real shift in.

Evans.... 5 Poor match by his recent standards. Seemed out of touch and 'distant' all afternoon. He might just have cemented Reeds place in the middle v Rotherham.

Armstrong... 6 Usual burst of pace troubling the right back early doors but faded as the match wore on.

Dack..... 6 Stop start performance but he is our leading scorer and stepped up to the plate admirably to convert the penalty. Penalties are easy at 3-0 up but at 0-0 in the last few minutes become completely different gravy, Bradley Dack didn't show any nerves as he slammed the ball home.

Graham.... 4 A rare off day. No idea why but yesterday nothing worked for him. It happens.

Subs

Palmer... 6 Didn't offer much but bringing him on for Evans on 63 mins did reduce our on field yellow card count and did create more of an attacking threat.

Rothwell... 6 On for the ineffective Graham on 74 minutes. Good reasoning to try and test the pace of QPR's central defenders against the pace of Armstrong but long balls from defence onto little Adam's head simply won't work.

Brereton...7 Replaced Armstrong and was moved over to the right. Looks clumsy but did provide a difference on that side and got the penalty.

Mowbray... 7 Limited the threat of in-form QPR and maybe continuing with old firm Smallwood and Evans in midfield rather than going with the more offensive skills of Harrison Reed was designed to protect our patched up defence. Whatever the reasoning it's another 3 points on his cv as we continue to trade toe to toe punches with rivals beyond our financial status.

Referee Bankes 2. (he did give the penalty I suppose) Clueless. Given his record how has this chap got to Championship level? It's a disgrace if he is allowed to continue.
 
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ABBEY

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If id have written the opening sentence with alls rhodes had done was score back in day you would of had a dicky fit ha
 
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ABBEY

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On the match I dont what you saw but he skewed balls same as raya . Funny how people view things differently. I thought bell had a mare yesterday and my mom was reed by a country mile.
That ref was the most incompetent turd boiler Ive seen since Courtney.
An ugly win but a bloody good win.
 

Drog

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On the match I dont what you saw but he skewed balls same as raya . Funny how people view things differently. I thought bell had a mare yesterday and my mom was reed by a country mile.
That ref was the most incompetent turd boiler Ive seen since Courtney.
An ugly win but a bloody good win.
Courtney did give us that pen at Wenbley rem.

Most incompetent ref in my book in the past was Mike Riley with Uriah Rennie close behind.
 

Alan

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What is wrong with Dack? Nothing imo! Scored the goal didn't he?
Simple fact of the matter is that he is being singled out for tight marking and a little bit of 'special attention' from the opposition. Yesterday the fool with the whistle handed cards out like confetti but ignored the most cynical and dangerous tackle from the back which went right through Dack and happened right under his nose. Dack being given such special attention is also freeing up other players. We all know that Dack is short of pace and that his first touch could be better (might be of comfort to some that those are two 'must have' talents for anyone looking to life in the Prem) but he is still the fulcrum and the 'out ball' of choice for his teammates because of the way he holds the ball up and gains precious seconds for the midfield and defence to find forward positions.

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If you want my opinion, and I know you didn't ask for it, the reason that Brad's form has dipped is that he get's next to no support from that sterile combination in midfield of Smallwood and Evans. Neither has a decent pass into space or any attacking ideas whatsoever and the pair needs breaking up with Reed taking one of their places. Whenever Dack get's the ball there is an opponent onto him immediately and his game is suffering because of it. I know I go on about flair, it's what I go to football to watch, and neither of them has any at all. This team, in my opinion has too many soldiers and not enough artists. It's the way Mowbray wants to play and he has done well but I believe with more attacking ideas (flair) he could do a lot better. That midfield partnership needs breaking up for the good of the team, and for Dack.
 

Alan

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I don't know what anybody else thinks but I thought it was a good idea to stick the away fans upstairs out of the way where they couldn't be heard so much and couldn't influence the match as much. It was better without them next to the Darwen End goals.
 

Drog

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Good point Abbey. Al makes it sound like we've been playing dreadfully. Most teams out of the Etihad can only afford to have a couple of flair players no matter who they are. Pragmatism dictates that. We have Dack and Armstrong as regular starters with Palmer and Rothwell to call on when necessary too. To play all of them at the same time would be just suicide.
 

Alan

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Good point Abbey. Al makes it sound like we've been playing dreadfully. Most teams out of the Etihad can only afford to have a couple of flair players no matter who they are. Pragmatism dictates that. We have Dack and Armstrong as regular starters with Palmer and Rothwell to call on when necessary too. To play all of them at the same time would be just suicide.
I don't want to play all of them. Just Reed instead of Evans will do for a start with a proper winger. I know that we are doing OK but we could be so much better with the talent we have available. I don't expect everybody to agree with me. Too many want a team of grafters but flair players can graft too. Dack is an example. Nobody ever won anything with soldiers and no generals and I just want one more flair player in my team. I'm convinced we are nearly there and just one more talented player with a younger Graham up front could put us into the play offs but I fear we won't get there with Evans and Smallwood in central midfield. They are too static.
 

steve w

Senior Member
Apart from Saturday! Watching Rovers has been great fun again.
Mowbrey (imo) is playing to our strengths
Stay in the game!
And then when the opposition start to open up or we go behind bring on our flare players.
It's working - we are very much in the mix in a very competitive league
Loving being a blue again!!
 

Alan

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but evans has been amazing this season.
I know you think so Abs. but I don't agree. He may make a lot of tackles but I never see him do anything positive with the ball when he get's it. We obviously see him differently.
 

Alan

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I'd be reluctant to tamper with a winning formula, Al. There's always room for improvement but I'd say Rovers are performing above most fans' expectations at the moment.
As you say there is always room for improvement and would you not agree that Reed is a better central midfielder than Evans and is wasted on the wing because he is just not a winger. That would therefore be an improvement and make room for a proper wide man instead of a square peg. Do you not want to improve the team? I do!
We are doing OK but could do better.
 
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