• NEXT GAME:Leicester City FC
    Saturday 4th May 2024
    Kick off 12.30 pm
    Kingpower Stadium
    Championship

The News @ RF.com

Having had the same said to me, I have no hesitation in deploring Trump's blatantly bigoted comments.

Two wrongs don't make a right, and I also deplore Minnesota Congresswoman Ilhan Omar's bigoted tweets about Jews.

Care to comment about her racist tweets ultrablue and jim mk2?
 
Last edited:

Drog

Administrator
Staff member
The spread of Islam across the civilised world hitherto resisted by superior weaponry until political naivety gave way after WW2 is continuing unabated. Worries the hall out of me but it must worry Jewish people more.
 

Steve Moss

Senior Member
It's hard to do analysis when you're putting your head in the sand over your obnoxious, racist president and the nauseating "human beings" in the GOP.

Trump and his political cohort give added depth and resonance to the term "white trash".
I’m still waiting for someone to identify any aspect of “race” in Trump’s tweet. It’s fairly clear to me that he’s referring to the policies of failed governments being imported by immigrants, and the children of, from those failed countries to the USA.

But if you have a different take or if it makes you feel good to point and shriek “racist”, that’s fine too. Be happy, if you are capable.
 

Drog

Administrator
Staff member
I doubt you'll get any response Steve. John always runs for cover when his argument is defeated. I've already raised that point too with ultrablue. He retorted with a rather sniffy 'Didn't ask you' and then went to ground.
Here... The News @ RF.com

The non racist bit being the final sentence 'and then come back here and tell us how it's done'.

 

Drog

Administrator
Staff member
btw Just as an aside I'd like to know why immigrants or descendants of immigrants are drawn to politics and government? It's weird but of the original candidates Johnson is of Turkish descent, Raab / Czech descent, Javid / Pakistani descent, McVey / Irish descent, Cleverly / Sierra Leone. Thats almost 50% and I'd suggest over representative of the population as a whole.

Pondered this for some time and some advice given to me as a child came to mind. Along the lines of "most people who emigrate do so because they are dissatisfied with their Mother country, unfortunately it is in their nature which they carry with them to their new home"
It does go rather a long way to explaining the term the 'British disease' as coined in Australia in the 1970's when ex-pats took their socialist grudge to Oz and created much industrial unrest in their new homeland.

Also it encapsulates much of the dissatisfaction exhibited by many of the muslim persuasion. A current example of which is here... https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co....t-39-large-scale-blackburn-benefits-fraud-39/
Now I know there are loads of the indigenous population benefiting from similar scams but one would expect immigrants to have more gratitude to this nation for rescuing them from so fly blown hell hole and have cultivated better manners through common decency. I guess the old adage still applies..... "you can tale a pig out of a sty but it's still a pig".*



*I wonder if the Don needs a speech writer?:cool:
 

Benjamin Kaynine

Senior Member
I’m still waiting for someone to identify any aspect of “race” in Trump’s tweet. It’s fairly clear to me that he’s referring to the policies of failed governments being imported by immigrants, and the children of, from those failed countries to the USA.

But if you have a different take or if it makes you feel good to point and shriek “racist”, that’s fine too. Be happy, if you are capable.

Please tell me which planet you inhabit because it's not this one.

To Mr Trump, whites are automatically American. Others only qualify if they support his idea of what it is to be American. By any measure, and telling these people to "go home", is textbook racism.

He also seems to forget the true Americans are those nice chaps in teepees. Everyone else, including whites, are immigrants or descendants thereof.

Draft Dodger One doesn't do detail

Chris
 

Drog

Administrator
Staff member
Bluster. Just more "chuck enough mud and some will stick" tactics. We don't want your opinions we want you to answer the question. If that's too difficult for you then so be it because lots of people in the press, media and politics etc appear to be suffering from a similar level of myopia to yours.
 

Drog

Administrator
Staff member
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-48938509

Not mentioned in the article but it seems to me that the most affected eu regions in general are the ones most affected by short daylight hours. SAD syndrome perhaps? Maybe the deaths need to be accompanied by the monthly figures to see when they spike. The alternative presumably to avoid addiction in the North is to sell up, buy a villa on the Iberian peninsula and die of liver failure brought on by alcohol poisoning.
 

OnlyOneTugay

Prediction Champion 2019 & 2020
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....s/live-primary-school-sex-protest-3118590.amp

After Birmingham now protests outside a school in Nottingham .

As far as the Equality Act is concerned this is one protected characteristic clashing with another protected characteristic.

As Islam continues to grow in the UK , will we all have to accept that society’s values and norms will change, becoming less secular and more religious ?

My own view has always been that sex / relationship education should be a matter for discussion in the home , rather than school , especially at primary age .
 
Last edited:

Drog

Administrator
Staff member
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....s/live-primary-school-sex-protest-3118590.amp

After Birmingham now protests outside a school in Nottingham .

As far as the Equality Act is concerned this is one protected characteristic clashing with another protected characteristic.

As Islam continues to grow in the UK , will we all have to accept that society’s values and norms will change, becoming less secular and more religious ?

My own view has always been that sex / relationship education should be a matter for discussion in the home , rather than school , especially at primary age .
We need to take a hard line with Islam starting yesterday! Who tf do the medieval buggers think they are? These people are attempting to go against and overturn the laws of this land and they MUST be deterred at all costs! If we don't make a start things will only get worse. I'm going a little Trumpesque here but if they want muslim practices and customs then go away in short jerky movements to a muslim land. If we are serious about integration then the rules going fwd should be
1. No religious education in schools. No unregistered madrassas etc and those only open for no more than one hour per week.
2. No halal of kosher slaughter methods.
3. A ban on burkha / hijabs etc.
4. A ban on religious symbols.
5. No burials.
6. No time off work or school for prayer.

No doubt I'll think of a few more yet. The sooner we get those messages across the better

I have to say that apart from biology we had no sex education at Grammar school never bloody well mind Primary school! And certainly not one that would ever have included homosexuality in the content!
For countless eons until the late 70's perhaps there has been no official sex education in schools so I have to ask why bother with it? I had more fun finding out suchlike than enough! It was bloody great fumbling around back then! We were all like Kevin and Perry! Never been as much fun as when I metaphorically threw away my 'L' plates!
 

Drog

Administrator
Staff member
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-49073222
Is it just me or does anyone else see this as a bad move forward? Only reason I ask is (discounting medical usage here) because in my experience most regular cannabis users seem to be imo work-shy and unreliable dollopers. On the other hand most who consume alcohol as a regular drug of choice appear to have a decent work and social ethic.




.......... put's tin hat on
 

blueandwhitehalves

Senior Member
Legalizing cannabis does seem a bit unnerving but it's hard to make an argument that it's definitively worse than alcohol. So it's logically inconsistent that one should be legal while the other isn't.
 

blueandwhitehalves

Senior Member
Exactly. Yet another reason why it’s a ludicrously stupid garment that has no place in any civilised society.

Its interesting to finally see Muslims starting to bite the leftist hand that feeds them. First the LGBT Birmingham and Nottingham schools, now Gay Pride parades. The left, cowardly as they are, will no doubt simply shed that skin and begin pretending they never cared about LGBT people in the first place.

But what will happen when Muslims start trying to put feminists back in the box I wonder?
 

OnlyOneTugay

Prediction Champion 2019 & 2020
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....sted-over-homophobic-abuse-during-pride-march

I’m not sure how they managed it but she’s been arrested.

Interesting article by Brendan O’Neill which covers some of the issues raised by BlueandWhiteHalves :

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/07/the-curious-reaction-to-a-niqab-wearing-homophobe/

“ What a pickle. Condemn the religious nutter and risk joining Boris Johnson in that camp of nasty Islamophobes who slag off niqab-wearers? Or be soft on the screaming lady and risk implying that it is sometimes okay to bark insults at gay people? What is an intersectional leftist to do ! “
 
Last edited:

Drog

Administrator
Staff member
Quite right Steve. 'You made the mess, you can clear it up'. Modern justice usually has no place for such practical common sense solutions.
 

Benjamin Kaynine

Senior Member
Top