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[Drog]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-39476606
Some kurdish Iranian asylum seeker suffered a beating at the weekend and whilst these pictures are not totally clear it seems the attackers are black. Who saw that coming? The social mix of London is complex to say the least.
But aren't we a strange species when immediately a 'just giving' fund is set up for the victim and a number of people have donated (£5000 to date). Now I have to say that I've absolutely no idea why the human race feels the need to give cash at every such happening. It's a weird reaction that I cannot fathom, is it to make the victim feel better or themselves?

 

[Drog]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-39483801

Good.
I still think if they had done that to me that I'd like to treat them to a kettle of boiling water apiece before they were sent down.

 

[Drog]

Russia's turn now it seems.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39481770

Woe betide those evil buggers when/if they are caught. Odds on that Putin will want to set an example.

 

[davebirch]

What are they going to do, Drog?
Piece him together then shoot him?

 

[Drog]

If he was acting alone then find the bits and feed them to pigs. If he had accomplices ditto but without any need for the piecing together bit.

 

[blueandwhitehalves]

Story popped up on my FB newsfeed about blokes all over Holland holding hands in support of gay rights.

Started reading down the comments and straight away an Asian bloke weirdly compared it to incest. He had 30 replies, almost all slating him. Thought 'fair enough, thats good to see'.

Then dismayingly noticed his comment had 18 likes, clicked on it and it was all blokes and 15 of them were Asian.

I know we keep getting told not to stereotype etc but at what point do the liberals admit there's a serious problem here?

 

[AllRoverAsia]

Asia is a hell of a big place. I assume he was from somewhere other than the Far East. The FE Asians I know and its a lot are not exactly fans of the other mob.

 

[Drog]

Story popped up on my FB newsfeed about blokes all over Holland holding hands in support of gay rights.

Is that a reason? tbh I think the precious little dears just love to play the victims.
I'm not really bothered what they get up to in private (although I'd rather not think too long about it) but why have homosexuals got away with adopting the word 'gay' to describe themselves? Most of them seem to be covering up a personality quite the opposite.

 

[Alan]

I've thought that for a long time. Gay means merry or brightly coloured. Maybe I'm showing my age but as you say what they do in private is their own business but if I see two blokes kissing in public I have to turn away.

 

[ABBEY]

Just seen this ,horrible .

 

[AllRoverAsia]

I've thought that for a long time. Gay means merry or brightly coloured. Maybe I'm showing my age but as you say what they do in private is their own business but if I see two blokes kissing in public I have to turn away.

A bloke shagging a bloke is not normal and I do not give a shite what the PC lefties think or do or say. Weirdos.

Still if they keep it private I do not care.

But they dont. We are almost forced to accept it as the norm and its not.

 

[Vinjay]

Well the PC lefties and most rational people don't give a damn (note the less vulgar and crass way of phrasing it) what you say about it either.

More ignorant than anything Venkys have done to put it in perspective.

 

[blueandwhitehalves]

A bloke shagging a bloke is not normal and I do not give a shite what the PC lefties think or do or say. Weirdos.

Still if they keep it private I do not care.

But they dont. We are almost forced to accept it as the norm and its not.

There's obviously been a shedload of surveys on this but the average appears to be around 2% gay and 2% bisexual. Contrast that to about 1-2% of people have ginger hair. Should they have to wear hats in public because it's so upsetting to see something that isn't normal?

Telling other people what to do purely on the basis of subjective sensibilities is the dangerous obsession Islamic extremists have. And its great to see Theresa May offending the Saudis showing her hair. My personal rule is are they harming anyone, 2 men or women hugging or kissing clearly doesn't.

 

[AllRoverAsia]

There's obviously been a shedload of surveys on this but the average appears to be around 2% gay and 2% bisexual. Contrast that to about 1-2% of people have ginger hair. Should they have to wear hats in public because it's so upsetting to see something that isn't normal?

Telling other people what to do purely on the basis of subjective sensibilities is the dangerous obsession Islamic extremists have. And its great to see Theresa May offending the Saudis showing her hair. My personal rule is are they harming anyone, 2 men or women hugging or kissing clearly doesn't.

Only 2% ... amazing. How it garners so much media attention.

Islamic? Is that the new Godwins Law?

I have nothing against ginger headed people.

On the other subject as intimated if they dont interfere with me then I wont hold it against them.

Edit: why is it good to offend Saudi sensibilities?

 

[Vinjay]

Only 2% ... amazing. How it garners so much media attention.

Islamic? Is that the new Godwins Law?

I have nothing against ginger headed people.

On the other subject as intimated if they dont interfere with me then I wont hold it against them.

Think you're self aware enough to know that's extremely unlikely as the majority will mind their own business. Unfortunately there's still a few who have the most stereotypical view of gay people possible.

Personally I couldn't care less if someone has ginger hair its a perfectly normal colour. Still why do you have an illogical problem with gay people but not ginger headed people? You obviously think orientation is down to choice when scientific findings show its not quite that black and white.

 

[AllRoverAsia]

Think you're self aware enough to know that's extremely unlikely as the majority will mind their own business. Unfortunately there's still a few who have the most stereotypical view of gay people possible.

Personally I couldn't care less if someone has ginger hair its a perfectly normal colour. Still why do you have an illogical problem with gay people but not ginger headed people? You obviously think orientation is down to choice when scientific findings show its not quite that black and white.

I query the use of the word illogical but have to admit not being interested enough to have researched any scientific findings. I doubt I will.

I dont think I have any deep seated 'hatred' of gays but am not comfortable with not be able to openly announce that I personally think its not right and being compared to an Islamic extremist is totally out of order.

I am also old enough to remember being gay myself.....as in happy or merry or similar.

So I like red headed people (I was uk mousey brown myself back in the day) but wtf has that got to do with anything.

 

[blueandwhitehalves]

Only 2% ... amazing. How it garners so much media attention.

Islamic? Is that the new Godwins Law?

I have nothing against ginger headed people.

On the other subject as intimated if they dont interfere with me then I wont hold it against them.

Edit: why is it good to offend Saudi sensibilities?

Yeah I was surprised, thought it was at least 5%.

Godwin’s Law wouldn’t be ridiculous if people had been using it in reference to Hitler in the 1940s. This is that equivalent period in terms of Islamic extremism, an active and deadly threat to freedom in many parts of the world. I think its important people do examine it as a reference point for potentially harmful aspects of the wider human condition.

Well in your previous post you said ‘if they keep it private I do not care’ which is a bit different to ‘if they don’t interfere with me’. Unless people are interfering with you by sharing public space.

Probably phrased that wrong, its good to ignore the sexist, oppressive, medieval attitude of the Saudi government.

 

[Vinjay]

I suppose some of those who say homosexuality isn't a choice say paedophilia isn't a choice either. Others may make contradictory statements between the 2. There's shades of grey involved (look up the terms hebephile and ephebophile) but when it comes to paedophilia its clearly abusive as the child isn't old enough to understand or knowingly give educated consent. On the other hand if people have such urges are they anymore to blame than someone who can't help what their sexual orientation is? My view is people with such urges should seek help if they feel they can't suppress such feelings. If they don't and act on such feelings then that's the point where it becomes a legal matter for me. People seem to make mental health assessments on what suits them (I do label ISIS as lunatics admittedly but you could even argue they are mentally ill) though its natural when danger is involved. Someone who is psychotically violent/unhinged for instance clearly needs to be restrained in my view. Those who label everything as mental illness would say that's too hardline an approach. It is hardline (politically I'm a mix of many things which makes me a centrist overall but some issues I'm extremely hardline about) but at least I'm open enough to recognise mental illness isn't so black and white.

 

[Drog]

Call me old fashioned but I detest public displays of affection between adults of any sort and certainly not in front of children.