The next Rovers manager

[Drog]

I was pleased when Allardyce was sacked cos his football was getting unbearable to watch and we needed a change of manager just not the appointment we got tho.

Still haven't learned a lesson have you Chaddy? You want rid of good managers yet don't appear to accept that our record has seen us worsen our situation. 3 good managers out of 10 in messrs Allardyce, Bowyer and Mowbray! It doesn't make me keen to want the venkys roll the dice too often. Out of the headlong rush to bin off those three good managers we've had two relegations .... and who knows what this latest will result in?
Ever heard the story of the little boy who put his hand in the flames? He didn't do it again after getting his fingers burnt so why do you keep insisting on doing it again and again?

imo Mowbray was doing a good job with the club and can leave with his head held high and his record enhanced. Every season we were getting better and every season the Academy was producing talented players. The attitude, togetherness and fitness of the squad was good too. If I had been the venkymob I'd simply have wanted him to appoint a tactician to his team to help him to manage tactical changes through matches. That appears to be the only thing that he was weak on. Oh! Apart that is from spewing 13 million on two very expensive players who didn't perform for three years. As it seems he can at least claim that we made money (? IF we do and it's a very big IF) on one of them.

 

[Drog]

Stuart Webber bought in Pukki not Farke. Webber dealt with recruitment whilst Farke did the coaching side

It matters little. The fact is that Pukki was on a free and became the catalyst under Farke.

 

[Drog]

Those days watching Big Sam’s team upset the foreign fancy Dan managers , Premier League stability and the brilliant atmosphere in the Darwen End was the last time Ewood was alive . I’d go back to those times in a heartbeat, ‘ hoof ball’ and all . A real pity it wasn’t good enough the footballing intelligentsia amongst our supporters.

Careful OOT. I said 'experts' and got a bollocking for my troubles! Best keep your head down and lie low for a time.

This from chaddy a few posts back is absolutely classic! How many times have we heard this or similar over the past decade?
"I was pleased when Allardyce was sacked cos his football was getting unbearable to watch and we needed a change of manager just not the appointment we got tho."

 

[Dunnfc]

Zoltan Love
Daniel Farke
Vincent Kompany

All have chats with Gladbach today.

 

[blueandwhitehalves]

My expectations is challenging and wanting promotion from this league. If that not the target or ambition then what is @blueandwhitehalves target then each and every season? another mid table finish losing millions and our best players.

We are about 18th in the Championship in crowds, revenue, players wages and transfers. Thats the reality that I can't stress enough and few Rovers fans seem even close to accepting.

So if our resources are 18th, I expect us to finish 18th. I want a realistic ambition of mid-table but I'm not gonna be overly depressed or demanding the manager is sacked if we don't manage it.

As a result, 8th is a magnificent season (I accept at one point we were 2nd, but that was just utterly ridiculous). And if there were enough like-minded fans clustered together at Ewood, I'd have been happy as a clam at every home game.

But of course many fans inexplicably expect a team with the 18th highest resources to finish in top 6. Pinning this expectation on the fact that every couple of seasons 1 club of our size manages it (whilst 50 others throughout the football league don't). So its the same old formula: unrealistic expectations > not met > scapegoat hounded > negative atmosphere.

I maintain its not actually positive to expect too much.

 

[Barmitzvah Boy]

I just want them to get on with the appointment. 16th June is a long time to wait.

 

[Old Darwen Blue]

Swap Leeds out for Burnley now, but I hate to say it thats still a FAR more attractive job than Rovers given their already superior squad and that they'll be getting parachute payments of about £90m over the next 3 years.

There's been a decade of blaming Venkys, Singh, Shaw, Mowbray, Waggot. Maybe its time to blame the reality of 13,000 crowds, about 50,000 catchment area (accounting for demographics), £200m debt, £15m annual revenue. Maybe fans, a decade after relegation, need to finally start expecting less?

Why would Farke come here honestly, why would even Carvahal when you look closely at his last 2 English jobs. He was given serious, serious money to spend at Sheff Wed and Swansea. His first signing for the latter was Ayew for £18m, he ain't getting that here!

Ainsworth is probably about the best we can realistically get and that isn't Waggot or Venkys fault, although it is their fault for letting Mowbray go.

I’d suggest you take a look at your definition of b***ley having a superior squad. Dyche didn’t regularly supplement the squad with younger players unlike TM. As a result most of their squad is in the 30-37 years old age bracket and have at least nine players out of contract. Combine this fact with that their better players will be sold and their squad isn’t so attractive at all. Whoever they get in as manager will face a massive restructuring operation and I don’t believe that they will have access to most of the parachute payments. ALK have already taken out £10million to give to another company in the group and I expect most of the parachute payment will follow. They have already had to take a £10 million loan from an Australian bank to tide them over.
b***ley are screwed and I suspect any manager looking at their vacancy will have taken all of the above into consideration.

 

[Chaddyrovers]

Still haven't learned a lesson have you Chaddy? You want rid of good managers yet don't appear to accept that our record has seen us worsen our situation. 3 good managers out of 10 in messrs Allardyce, Bowyer and Mowbray! It doesn't make me keen to want the venkys roll the dice too often. Out of the headlong rush to bin off those three good managers we've had two relegations .... and who knows what this latest will result in?
Ever heard the story of the little boy who put his hand in the flames? He didn't do it again after getting his fingers burnt so why do you keep insisting on doing it again and again?

imo Mowbray was doing a good job with the club and can leave with his head held high and his record enhanced. Every season we were getting better and every season the Academy was producing talented players. The attitude, togetherness and fitness of the squad was good too. If I had been the venkymob I'd simply have wanted him to appoint a tactician to his team to help him to manage tactical changes through matches. That appears to be the only thing that he was weak on. Oh! Apart that is from spewing 13 million on two very expensive players who didn't perform for three years. As it seems he can at least claim that we made money (? IF we do and it's a very big IF) on one of them.

Depends on what you think is a good manager and not.

Allardyce did ok here but lets not forget he wanted to run a mile away from this club for a club in the Middle East. Williams should have let him go there when he wanted out. Clearly didn't want to be here,

Bowyer should have done hell of lot better than he did in his second season.

Mowbray should have done alot better over the 4 years in this league. I don't want any more excuses from you about last season failure. Mowbray was to blame for this past season. No one else. He should have been sack 18 months ago before after finish mid table with a team containing Armstrong, Brereton and Elliott. Plus Harwood Bellis and 31 man squad at his disposal.

I am pleased he has gone. Now we need to appoint right replacement.

 

[Chaddyrovers]

We are about 18th in the Championship in crowds, revenue, players wages and transfers. Thats the reality that I can't stress enough and few Rovers fans seem even close to accepting.

So if our resources are 18th, I expect us to finish 18th. I want a realistic ambition of mid-table but I'm not gonna be overly depressed or demanding the manager is sacked if we don't manage it.

As a result, 8th is a magnificent season (I accept at one point we were 2nd, but that was just utterly ridiculous). And if there were enough like-minded fans clustered together at Ewood, I'd have been happy as a clam at every home game.

But of course many fans inexplicably expect a team with the 18th highest resources to finish in top 6. Pinning this expectation on the fact that every couple of seasons 1 club of our size manages it (whilst 50 others throughout the football league don't). So its the same old formula: unrealistic expectations > not met > scapegoat hounded > negative atmosphere.

I maintain its not actually positive to expect too much.

It's quite simple that Mowbray should have got us at worst a playoff place last season after being 2nd after the transfer window ended.

Its very simple. You seem to have zero ambition to do better than your resources. Tell that to Burnley under Dyche who did whilst not having a big budget. Or to Barnsley in the 20/21 season or to Luton and Huddersfield this past season who finish to top 6 despite having similar budget to us.

My ambition for this club is promotion within 2 season under the next head coach appointment. What yours?

 

[frwjd]

We are about 18th in the Championship in crowds, revenue, players wages and transfers. Thats the reality that I can't stress enough and few Rovers fans seem even close to accepting.

So if our resources are 18th, I expect us to finish 18th. I want a realistic ambition of mid-table but I'm not gonna be overly depressed or demanding the manager is sacked if we don't manage it.

As a result, 8th is a magnificent season (I accept at one point we were 2nd, but that was just utterly ridiculous). And if there were enough like-minded fans clustered together at Ewood, I'd have been happy as a clam at every home game.

But of course many fans inexplicably expect a team with the 18th highest resources to finish in top 6. Pinning this expectation on the fact that every couple of seasons 1 club of our size manages it (whilst 50 others throughout the football league don't). So its the same old formula: unrealistic expectations > not met > scapegoat hounded > negative atmosphere.

I maintain its not actually positive to expect too much.

I'd normally agree with this BUT
How long can we expect our owners to finance the ever increasing losses?
Getting promotion is surely the only way out of the mess the owners created?

 

[blueandwhitehalves]

I'd normally agree with this BUT
How long can we expect our owners to finance the ever increasing losses?
Getting promotion is surely the only way out of the mess the owners created?

Thats the road to administration though. The Championship is packed with big hitters. As I mentioned above, parachute payments are up to about £80-90m now. There's also clubs with over double Rovers revenue just from their attendances/fanbase.

Venkys could roll the dice, there's every possibility we still don't get promoted, and that £200m debt could turn into £400m very quickly.

 

[steve w]

I can agree to some degree with - if we finish above 18th in the Championship - its a success based on our fan base etc
So if we drop down a division and are quite successful (play offs/promotion) most seasons - it would be good fun but our value would drop even further
And we are fucked now! so we would be the next Bury

Romantic notion in some respects - and some people say they would prefer it - to what we have now
But we would lose the ground, training facility and be playing in level 7 or something

Now be HONEST would you still turn up?

We have just blown our best chance in a decade of some long term hope
I'm with Chaddy - we need to be looking up - and quick
Venkys will pull the plug at some stage

 

[Robin]

Next name to take off the short-list

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1532031236943880193

 

[Chaddyrovers]

I do feel Rovers will appoint someone who hasn't been really linked or at all with the job. There hasn't been alot of rumours in the past 48 hours so It appears that our search is in private domain and nothing is leaking on who has made the second interview stage.

 

[Chaddyrovers]

Blackburn Rovers' search for the right fit as managerial search goes on | Lancashire Telegraph

Its appears the Rovers want the majority of Benson, Lowe and Johnson to stay. For me, I would get rid of Benson and bring back Bobby Mimms a GK coach. Then get rid of Lowe and then Johnson is the only first team coach there then. Don't need loads of staff. Then bring in quality 2 fitness coach

Also from the article

Knowledge of the Championship, and a willingness to work with young players is a key part of the criteria, and where Carvalhal and Farke in particular will have impressed.

Seemingly in the background is the search for a sporting director.

It has always been expected that a manager would be appointed first, the position that Rovers feel is most pressing, with a sporting director to come after as the club restructures their football operations.

That search is running parallel, and understood to be at an advanced stage, but will have no bearing on the appointment of a head coach, despite their expected working relationship, which has come as a surprise to some.

 

[Husky]

Alan Pardew leaves CSKA Sofia after racism from their supporters

Alan Pardew has left CSKA Sofia following the actions of a “group of organised racist fans” at a match last month. According to reports, some of CSKA’s players were subjected to racist abuse and had bananas thrown at them by fans prior to the May 19 fixture at home against Botev Pl...

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The new favourite.

 

[Dunnfc]

Alan Pardew leaves CSKA Sofia after racism from their supporters

Alan Pardew has left CSKA Sofia following the actions of a “group of organised racist fans” at a match last month. According to reports, some of CSKA’s players were subjected to racist abuse and had bananas thrown at them by fans prior to the May 19 fixture at home against Botev Pl...

www.limerickleader.ie

The new favourite.

He’s deffo applied

 

[Chaddyrovers]

Neil Critchley won't be coming here. Gone to Villa as Steven Gerrard number 2

 

[Old Darwen Blue]

Neil Critchley won't be coming here. Gone to Villa as Steven Gerrard number 2

So that’s Blackpool needing a new manager as well.

 

[khmerblue]

Yep sunny Blackpool or Asian infested Blackburn,some choice,GA is the man.