VAR

[Wilpshire Blue]

Do away with it now.
Watching the Norwich v Spurs match and a second goal, which is gold for Norwich, disallowed for a millimetre offside.

Never mind the wolves v city rubbish yesterday.
Get rid or the game is dead

 

[Drog]

Disagree WB. The VAR should apply to foot position and that's that! Simples! Any striker will lean forward when he is setting off just as any defender will lean the opposite way when trying to play opposing players offside. It's not the rules it's the application of them that's wrong.

 

[Wilpshire Blue]

VAR will kill football.
I think cricket had it just about right, whereby you call for it if you want to. Reviewing every single incident is not what is required

 

[Old Darwen Blue]

I agree with WB. So your team scores in a crucial game, should you stand and wait expectedly whilst VAR is looked at before celebrating like a mad lunatic in the stands? No, you shouldn't. Could you imagine if we had VAR when b***ley were winning 1-0 until Dunny scored that offside equaliser? We suspected then it was offside and it was confirmed afterwards but the feelings and reactions in the ground when the ball hit the back of the net is what football is all about, not measuring in millimetres. Its footy, not bloody engineering! We got ripped off at Selhurst in 89, but it was put right at Wembley in 92. Swings and roundabouts and talking points for years.

 

[Wilpshire Blue]

Plenty of people getting fed up with it
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50935709

 

[Drog]

VAR will kill football.
I think cricket had it just about right, whereby you call for it if you want to. Reviewing every single incident is not what is required

Yeah but 90% of goals will still see the conceding Captain / Manager requesting VAR. As I said earlier base it on the foot position when the pass is played. It's where the old saying 'toe the line' comes from. Maybe the unseen VAR types hiding in the shadows in their HQ should be made to explain their decisions in a 30 minute TV show every week.

 

[Drog]

I agree with WB. So your team scores in a crucial game, should you stand and wait expectedly whilst VAR is looked at before celebrating like a mad lunatic in the stands? No, you shouldn't. Could you imagine if we had VAR when b***ley were winning 1-0 until Dunny scored that offside equaliser? We suspected then it was offside and it was confirmed afterwards but the feelings and reactions in the ground when the ball hit the back of the net is what football is all about, not measuring in millimetres. Its footy, not bloody engineering! We got ripped off at Selhurst in 89, but it was put right at Wembley in 92. Swings and roundabouts and talking points for years.

I guess you need to talk to someone sitting in the Darwen End that day for a completely different take on the issue.

How about the shit decisions we used to get every bloody season against man utd and other 'big clubs'. We got cheated every bloody season! The pen at OT not given which would have left us 2 up probably cost us a place in Europe in that inaugural season whilst Durkin in particular nearly cost us the Premier league title when he disallowed Tim Sherwood's goal at OT. Anything that provides a level playing field when Big play Small should be welcomed by us and supporters of clubs like ours. The foot rule would solve everything.

 

[Wilpshire Blue]

Massive decision last night stopped Norwich going 2-0 up against big club Spurs.
The attacker and defender were in line, what happened to giving the benefit to the attacker?
Could be a big factor in Norwich's fate come the end of the season. Meanwhile, Mourinho gets away with a draw.

 

[Wilpshire Blue]

Yeah but 90% of goals will still see the conceding Captain / Manager requesting VAR. As I said earlier base it on the foot position when the pass is played. It's where the old saying 'toe the line' comes from. Maybe the unseen VAR types hiding in the shadows in their HQ should be made to explain their decisions in a 30 minute TV show every week.

But once the conceding manager gets one wrong, they don't have the opportunity to request again, at least not for the same half of the game.
At the moment, every incident is referred.
I sincerely hope we don't get it in the championship

 

[Drog]

I still say that anything which dispenses with the dreaded 'Homer' when travelling to big clubs is worth sticking with.

I've seen VAR getting stuff wrong on occasion with the benefit of freeze frame and slo mo but that have all been by inches whereas Linesman frequently have a lapse in concentration or get distracted at a critical time and miss an offside decision by feet and occasionally yards!

btw WB do you feel the same about goal line technology?

 

[Wilpshire Blue]

I'm in favour of goal line technology.
Firstly, it provides an almost immediate decision.
Secondly, it's a black or white decision. The ball can be proven to be over the line - fact.

With VAR, it takes forever to get a decision and quite a few of those are still subject to the VAR official making a decision with his own two eyes that could be wrong, especially in the case of penalties.
Did it brush his arm?
Looks like he was tripped from one angle but not from another.
Is a bit of his big toe sticking past the defenders shoulder for offside?
VAR takes too long and is still subject to human error.

 

[Drog]

Footballers and football are that fast that Linesmen are unable to keep up too.

Easy solution missed by Carragher and Co..... All linesman should be over 7ft tall! Simples

 

[Wilpshire Blue]

I see VAR is currently ruining the Liverpool v wolves match
Another big club getting all the decisions

 

[Drog]

Seen em both and both were correct decisions. Lallana didn't handball it and Mane wasn't offside. On the other hand I will say Van Dijk prob handled it but how far do you go back?
As for the Wolves goal it was only Otto's foot but he was offside. Close decisions but both correct, anything else would have been an injustice. What Wolves need to reflect on is their dire shooting skills.

 

[Wilpshire Blue]

VAR was supposed to correct clear and obvious mistakes, not something that takes half a dozen replays to decide.
Better start monitoring whether all the ball goes out of play for a throw in too.
I can't see many of the Premier League clubs voting to keep it.

 

[Drog]

Just watching the match on MoTD and I'd say the biggest issue with Lpools goal was that Referee Taylor blew his whistle before the ball went into the net! If so then never mind the VAR that should be a no goal. I await the post match analysis with interest.

Just seen it and the whistle issue was never mentioned.

 

[khmerblue]

liVARpool its been brought in so they win the title,the wolves goal should have stood,i thought VAR was for pens and fouls missed by the refs.LiVARpool have benefited by at least 10pts.

 

[Old Darwen Blue]

I guess you need to talk to someone sitting in the Darwen End that day for a completely different take on the issue.

How about the shit decisions we used to get every bloody season against man utd and other 'big clubs'. We got cheated every bloody season! The pen at OT not given which would have left us 2 up probably cost us a place in Europe in that inaugural season whilst Durkin in particular nearly cost us the Premier league title when he disallowed Tim Sherwood's goal at OT. Anything that provides a level playing field when Big play Small should be welcomed by us and supporters of clubs like ours. The foot rule would solve everything.

Talk to a b***ley b**tard? Can they communicate other than a few grunts?

 

[Wilpshire Blue]

Look like the lawmakers are coming to their senses - gradually
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50944416

 

[Wilpshire Blue]

Another nonsense VAR decision prevents wolves taking the lead against Leicester.
The people using this technology are out of touch with what football needs.