Stoke City v Rovers: 25th November 2023

[Drog]

Worst bit of our prem years clashes with Man Utd were the critical but dodgy refereeing decisions that always went against us for most of the games. They comprised a catalogue of injustices against that went against us back then. "They even themselves up over time" is just bollox! Thank god that var has gone a long way to level the playing field for the smaller clubs.

 

[davebirch]

Talking of v Manu, two things (goals) that stick out in my memory:

That masterly dispossession of the clown by Grabbi. Perfectly legal, legitimate goal disallowed.
Beckham goal from a free kick. The ref should have told him to take it again. I believe that refs insist on blowing their whistle to recommence play now.
So anything that brings them down is good in my book.

 

[blueandwhitehalves]

Worst bit of our prem years clashes with Man Utd were the critical but dodgy refereeing decisions that always went against us for most of the games. They comprised a catalogue of injustices against that went against us back then. "They even themselves up over time" is just bollox! Thank god that var has gone a long way to level the playing field for the smaller clubs.

Absolutely. Without the FA/Murdoch/Sky conspiracy to try to get Man U to win the league, and by far the worst 2 refereeing decisions I've ever seen watching football (the Berg penalty/sending off, and the Sherwood disallowed goal), we'd have beaten them at home and drawn away in 1994/95.

That would have added 4 points onto us, taken 5 off them, and meant that going into April we'd have been 17 points clear instead of 8. With that kind of lead I think its inconceivable we'd have had a wobble, so we'd have won the league by a country mile.

So it really gets on my nerves when people say West Ham won it for us. More like the FA nearly robbed it from us.

 

[Drog]

Many more than those two remain in my mind Dave......

Hand ball by schmeical when he came up for a corner in the last minutes at OT to force a draw.
Var would have ruled that out.

Def penalty not given against Paul Parker. Ok we lost 1-3 in the end but the pen could have seen us go 0-2 up.... and into Europe the next season.
Var would have awarded the pen.

Gerald Ashby ludicrously sending berg off at Ewood in when we were leading which changed the game.
Var would have ruled that out.

Hand ball by Cole / smith at Ewood. Var would have ruled that out.

dunnys pen awarded for a foul on Cole and saved when gk should have been sent off and Utd down to 10.
Not sure how var would have affected that.

Sherwood sent off at OT very very harshly. Var might have reversed that.

sherwoods valid goal at OT ruled out for a non existent push by shearer on Keane.
Var would surely have allowed that goal to stand.

there's probably many more instances but I can think of nothing similar given to the rovers benefit.

 

[khmerblue]

Dont forget Berg being sent off at Ewood and utd getting a penalty.

 

[Drog]

That comes under the Gerald Ashby mention waggy.

 

[Old Darwen Blue]

I wouldn’t be putting trust in VAR to right some historical wrongs. Have you seen some of its crap decisions lately?

 

[blueandwhitehalves]

They have made some shockers. I hate to say it but I've felt ever so slightly sorry for Burnley, they've had loads of bad ones, the latest a nailed on penalty rejected against West Ham.

Their treatment is reminding me of exactly how Rovers always used to get done in the PL, so VAR isn't doing as well as I thought on removing the big club bias.

And then there's certain things them and refs never get right in my opinion, that smack of them not playing football at any half decent level.

Yellows often aren't given for professional fouls that deliberately kill attacks and decrease fan entertainment. Penalties are still being given for negligible contact and good dives. Too many decisions are still based on a player's reaction rather than the offence.

Some shockers against Wolves on that front last night. Gary O'Neill was spot on, Fulham should have had 2 sent off, Cairney's penalty was a dive, and the other one was quite soft (although I could at least understand that one).

 

[Drog]

I wouldn’t be putting trust in VAR to right some historical wrongs. Have you seen some of its crap decisions lately?

Yes but I've also seen more good ones. As ever it's the human factor that requires improvement.

 

[Drog]

They have made some shockers. I hate to say it but I've felt ever so slightly sorry for Burnley, they've had loads of bad ones, the latest a nailed on penalty rejected against West Ham.

Their treatment is reminding me of exactly how Rovers always used to get done in the PL, so VAR isn't doing as well as I thought on removing the big club bias.

And then there's certain things them and refs never get right in my opinion, that smack of them not playing football at any half decent level.

My opinion entirely. Also I think the rules are made by similar clowns.

btw Dunno about anyone else but I don't recall any dingles professing sympathy for us.

 

[khmerblue]

Your doing great on your predictions BB.

 

[khmerblue]

In the opening post.

 

[Drog]

He should be doing my Super 6!