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FA Cup 2017/18

Drog

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Are the refs in league one fulltime,or just like in the old days have jobs and earn dome extra cash reffing?
No they are only professional in the Prem and Championship... however this was not a League one match.
 

khmerblue

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Just seen the highlights some great goals for rovers,pity about the rest of the match,the penalty was dubious I thought harper had lynched the bloke reading brfcs,get a good draw and onwards and upwards.
 

AllRoverAsia

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BBC saying Samuel lucky to avoid a red for kicking out at a Crewe player.

Harper and Bennet deserved red. Bennet did a goolie stamp.

Creative football for the pen, how to convert a goalkick into a goal via tippy tappy. I often wondered what they do in training.

Good goals by Rovers but useless defending at set pieces. No Rovers player jumped at either corner and the goalie did nowt too.

Crewe missed chances to win it.
 

Alan

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No they are only professional in the Prem and Championship... however this was not a League one match.
I don't know if they act as a team but we have had that lady lino in the league before this season. She never got a call wrong on either occasion.
 

Barmitzvah Boy

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BBC saying Samuel lucky to avoid a red for kicking out at a Crewe player.

Harper and Bennet deserved red. Bennet did a goolie stamp.

Creative football for the pen, how to convert a goalkick into a goal via tippy tappy. I often wondered what they do in training.

Good goals by Rovers but useless defending at set pieces. No Rovers player jumped at either corner and the goalie did nowt too.

Crewe missed chances to win it.
Our defending has been a joke all season. That is correct re Samuel, I actually thought the Ref clearly saw Samuel kicking out but probably he decided that 3 reds was enough. Harper wants to be bollocked for his tippy tappy as does Caddis for the pass to him in that situation.

I have been saying all season we are crying out for strong midfield enforcer / playmaker. As for Bennett he has been hit and miss ever since he signed a new contract - Mr Inconsistent.
 

Barmitzvah Boy

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I don't know if they act as a team but we have had that lady lino in the league before this season. She never got a call wrong on either occasion.
Alan - you cannot call them ladies as the pc and ‘transgender’ crowd will be after you. She (sorry ‘it’) is a ‘Linesthingy Person’. Dear me, you should know better :innocent:
 

Drog

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Our defending has been a joke all season. That is correct re Samuel, I actually thought the Ref clearly saw Samuel kicking out but probably he decided that 3 reds was enough. Harper wants to be bollocked for his tippy tappy as does Caddis for the pass to him in that situation.

I have been saying all season we are crying out for strong midfield enforcer / playmaker. As for Bennett he has been hit and miss ever since he signed a new contract - Mr Inconsistent.
The suicidal pass was made by Wharton.
 

Drog

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Watching this match from the armchair comfort of the Directors box this match was men against boys. A mismatch rather than a match....... until we pressed the suicide button again, and again, and again and again!

With the regular centre half pairing rested and two right backs at full back and a relatively new midfielder in Harper, Rovers had easily enough in every department to win this cup tie at a canter. Comfortable in possession and alternating imperiously stroking the ball around the pitch with killer passes through Crewe's mesmerised defence saw us 3-0 up after 20 mins with the tie virtually done and dusted. In truth I was beginning to feel a little sorry for Crewe and their impressive travelling contingent. Carry on like this I thought and we could be reading about David Artell's sacking in the morning papers.
And then came the button pushing.
Button 1. First off Whartons suicidal pass to Harper on the edge of our box when he had two Crewe players in fairly close attendance was rather more than careless and resulted in Harper attempting to play himself out of trouble instead of hitting row Z . Maybe if it was 0-0 in the 85th minute he would have chosen the Row Z option. As it was it was a midfielders instinct rather than those of a defender saw him lose possession before trying to repair the damage with an ever so slight shove to down Porter who at the time was clean through with only Leutwiler to beat. It was a soft pen and a harsh red card but as the laws stand the Ref couldn't really be criticised. I must say a worse punishment for Harper than that given to Paul Pogba for a viscous and premeditated lunge at Hector Bellarin at Highbury the day before suggests that sometimes the law is indeed an ass. No problem with the penalty but minor shoves, the likes of which we see many times in any football match one cares to view are rather too harshly punished imo.
Button 2. Most Refs would have deemed that Elliot Bennett was fouled and awarded a free kick for the Rovers against the memorably named Perry Ng (I kid you not). David Webb is not most Refs. He allowed play on and instead of accepting it as just one of those things Bennett did a very commendable impersonation of David Beckham's back heel on Diego Simeone all those years ago. Stupid, unprofessional and unforgivable.
I trust Captain for the day Bennett (or should that read 'Captain for 56 minutes') will feel the full force of Mowbrays wrath and be fined as heavily as his contract will allow. Maybe someone might check but I've a feeling that the usual 3 match suspension might now be 4 due to it being his second sending off. Bennett on the right gives a balance and solidity to our now preferred 4-4-2 formation and to lose his services in what is an important time of the season just as we have real momentum in the far more important Division 1 promotion race could prove to be very damaging.
Buttons 3. What are we doing at corners? No one seemed to know who they were marking and no one jumped and made it their own.
Button 4. Just a few minutes later see button 3! No one even left the ground this time as stuck in the middle of a crowd of Rovers players Chris Porter actually stooped to head the ball home! Worse still he was well inside the 6 yard box which is traditionally territory 'owned' by the goalkeeper. Needs to be mentioned that ours was flat footed in a rather less than commanding pose on his own goal line.
Memo to Mowbray... Put some fecker on the post at corners!!! I realise this was difficult with only 9 men available but it's an old gripe of mine and a very strange omission in a team that is managed by such an old style centre half with long experience. Even shorn of bodies as we were I'm sure one man on the back stick is not too much to ask for. Just adherence to that simple instruction would have seen us stroll into today's draw on our own.

Leutwiler.. 5. Raya isn't the best in the air but he's in no danger of losing his place to this lad.
Nyambe.. 5. Looked to have found his natural level in this match. I've been banging on about how poor we are in both full back positions for long enough and I'm suddenly noticing more and more people mentioning the same thing of late.
Ward... 5 Ward is Ward. Disappeared at HT so he might have been injured. He'd already performed a disappearing trick for Crewe's first goal as he was nowhere in camera shot when Harper gave away possession. In his favour I do believe that he has lost some weight.
Wharton..5 Did some good defensive things but looked a little inexperienced and his distribution was very poor.
Caddis.. 5. Unremarkable match. Don't really know why we picked him up off Rowett and Zola's scrap heap but we did. I think Mowbray hoped to turn this lad's downward spiral of descent and lick him into shape. He hasn't and he looks like he's a stone overweight.
Bennett..4 Doing fine (would have been a 7) and playing a big part in our opening scintillating football before screwing up big time with that petulant back heel at Ng. All his experience counted for sweet FA! Obviously not Captain material is my final comment.
Evans..6 Looked stronger than of late and played some decent passes until Bennett went off.
Antonnson.. 6 Somehow unless he's scoring this lad is almost anonymous. Again on Sunday he did nothing remarkable in defence or attack.
Graham...7 Much better link play with Samuel. This pair appear to have developed a distinct partnership and work well together. Not only that but when one or the other scores they display a genuine 'warmth' between them in their celebrations. Sacrificed at HT to stiffen up the midfield and replaced with Smallwood.
Samuel... 8. I liked the look of this lad early in the season but he struggled to find the net back then. Currently he's turned that around albeit through imo the aforementioned partnership with DG. Played excellently before Harper was dismissed and strove manfully up front on his own when we were down to 9. (Caused me to wistfully rem Shearer's display in taking the entire LUFC defence on when Flowers had been sent for a very early bath. First 10/10 I believe ever awarded by the LT match report.)

Smallwood.. 6 Typical energetic display much needed in the circumstances.
Downing... 6 Obviously a better option than Ward and saved the day at 3-3 with a tremendous block.
Travis.... 5 Never seen this lad before but he came on and did oK after struggling initially with the pace of the match.

So lets hope it's a case of 'lessons learned' regarding the futility of cheap dismissals. Unfortunately we are dealing with footballers so I doubt that will ever happen.
 

Barmitzvah Boy

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Bennett banned for four games.

This will potentially damage our promotion push.

ToMo is not contesting either sending off.
 

Vinjay

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Lack of video evidence. I've only watched the highlights once but people are referring to Bennett's action as a kick or stamp. Regardless of other bad decisions the referee made that's still a sending off. He was the captain too and had to set a better example than that. It cost Rovers the game as I would be far less understanding if a 3 goal lead was thrown away with 10 men. Bennett should be fined but given the impressions from the club he won't be. I actually like Bennett (I don't hate his teammates but they strike me as typical footballers while Bennett seems like a genuine guy) and he has more of a connection with fans than Lowe ever did (though a block of wood could have so that's not worth much I suppose) so you can't really comment on what constitutes captain material Theno! By the way did your seat in the directors box include access to that pretentious catering?
 

Barmitzvah Boy

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I rather like the catering btw Vinjay. Booked a box for a Rovers home game for my mates to celebrate my big birthday with me....the corporate catering at Ewood has always been spot on. Do you want fans to do a NAPM on Northcote at the Rovers?
 

Vinjay

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Its not primarily the pretentiousness but the principle. I'm not saying the food is horrible as it probably isn't (depending on your taste preferences of course which are different for everyone) but pretentious menus are exaggerated. You worship a bunch of snobs in a palace you should look at Jack Walker who is a real icon and a genuine hero that way instead.
 

Drog

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Lack of video evidence. I've only watched the highlights once but people are referring to Bennett's action as a kick or stamp. Regardless of other bad decisions the referee made that's still a sending off. He was the captain too and had to set a better example than that. It cost Rovers the game as I would be far less understanding if a 3 goal lead was thrown away with 10 men. Bennett should be fined but given the impressions from the club he won't be. I actually like Bennett (I don't hate his teammates but they strike me as typical footballers while Bennett seems like a genuine guy) and he has more of a connection with fans than Lowe ever did (though a block of wood could have so that's not worth much I suppose) so you can't really comment on what constitutes captain material Theno! By the way did your seat in the directors box include access to that pretentious catering?
Yes I can and I just did.
Anyway you appear to be having a go at me at every opportunity. Why is that? Ever so convenient anger issues again is it or maybe it's the supermoon phase?:rolleyes: This site is all about expressing opinions. I've got mine and you've got yours. If you don't want to read my posts just put me on ignore.
 

Vinjay

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Yes I can and I just did.
Anyway you appear to be having a go at me at every opportunity. Why is that? Ever so convenient anger issues again is it or maybe it's the supermoon phase?:rolleyes: This site is all about expressing opinions. I've got mine and you've got yours. If you don't want to read my posts just put me on ignore.
Its not really anything personal (nothing like my contempt for Lingard) but in the past (including where you used to post) your comments sometimes became overbearing and you have been continually going on recently about Allardyce, etc. To offset accusations of hypocrisy I've already acknowledged my own obsessions and why I feel they are more relevant. I will bear your remarks in mind and I shouldn't have brought up my personal issues.

My comments on the other thread were just as much directed at your likely source. That's different than the more repetitive debates like my remarks about Lowe, Allardyce, etc so it shouldn't really be compared. So if its something new to discuss then yes its an "opportunity" to have a go if I believe what your source said was a load of rubbish.
 
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