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Drog

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The Rovers fans were decent tonight and credit given to their fans through clenched teeth, the noise at the end when they scored was brilliant, I was stood in the section near them and it was very loud. I think it would have been the same if we'd have nicked a late winner but again we've come off second best.
I missed the minutes silence shenanigans but all credit to the PNE fans on the lower tier who clapped the whole time through the 74th minute applause for Birdy.
 

Drog

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Good post BAWH. I think it's been obvious for a while that we're lacking a bit of steel in the side, not effort , but that bit of nastiness and aggression. Apart from a couple of times that I thought Siggy was a bit half hearted in the challenge, I don't think you could fault the team for effort last night, as with most weeks, it's just that aggressiveness and maybe mental toughness that comes with age and experience that we're definitely lacking.
If the ref had shown PNE's players a few more yellows as he should have that would have helped North End to cut out the rough stuff and intimidation. Apart from that I along with OOT were crying out for the club to sign Sam Morsy. He can intimidate a whole team on his own! One of those players that you hate but absolutely love when he's on your side, think Todd, Sav, Speedie etc for examples.
 

Drog

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Always a lot more of a chore writing reviews after a defeat but it's different today as the rovers gave their all in a pulsating match and ultimately were undone by a spate of injuries decimating the entire defence as well as injuries to midfield and attack namely JRC, Hedges and Gallagher holing SS BRFC below the water line.
So I can't remember seeing a bigger clash of styles for some time. Rovers all intricate accurate passing v PNE's direct up and at em style. Fair play to Ryan Lowe, he must have PNE's wide men practising delivering 'exocets' into the area every day. Just the type of crosses that centre forwards love.
Yet again we largely dominated the opening 25 minutes without scoring only to concede the minute we take a collective breather. Visiting teams must know us well and form a formidable defensive shield before hitting back and inevitably scoring the opener and leaving us with an uphill battle. Testament to this borne out by As is now usual every week the conversation in the pub revolves around how much we need a target man aka a proper No 9. The type of player who can trade physically with the toughest centre halves and yet still be Johnny on the Spot when the ball comes in from the wings. We haven't had one since age overtook the excellent 'Big Dog' Danny Graham. Now with the Pune purse strings reportedly slammed shut at by the New Delhi branch of the Burnley supporters club it doesn't appear to me that we have much chance of finding the man we need in January. 5 defeats out of 8 matches at Ewood doesn't make good reading does it?
Last nights possession stats of 60:40 and 22 shots on goal v 9 doesn't matter a damn when the only stat that matters reads 1-2 to PNE does it? Yes we are injury hit, yes our squad is more than a little lightweight and just about the youngest in the championship but that is of little comfort when a 91st minute winner by our local rivals steals the points.

Wahlstedt.... 7 A few blips in recent weeks but he kept goal pretty well last night. Maybe he should have done better with his positioning for PNE's first goal but it was struck with such venom that it would have needed to actually hit him to prevent it hitting the net.

Travis... 6 Influential performance given his limitations at right back, but why did he go awol for Brown's goal and then leave Browne all alone to dink the ball in to Lindsay for their 90th minute winner?

Hill ... 8 Strong performance against PNE's bully boy strikers.

Wharton S See above. Fouled time and again by PNE's strikers when going for balls in the air but all largely ignored for some reason by Ref Bramall.

Brittain... 7 Not his best match of late but obviously missing a berth on the right and his blossoming partnership with JRC.

Tronstadt... 7 Stood up well v Preston's central midfield but somehow his work goes largely unnoticed.

Wharton A... 7 Good and bad performance from Adam. So influential on the ball with a superb range of passing but needs to do much better off the ball. His slip (probably the third of the night.... studs?) handed possession to PNE from which the winning goal ultimately materialised.

Moran... 7 Striking up a great partnership with Adam Wharton in midfield. Their partnership oozes premier league class at times. So unlucky when he thundered a volley against the bar after 44 minutes.

Sigurdsson... 6 Neat and tidy but somehow the Lancashire Hot Pot match didn't appear to be of his liking. So unlucky to be another to hit the bar in that first half.

Dolan... 7 Ran himself into the ground for the cause.

Szmodics ..7 Not at his best but what can you say about a player who notches most weeks and currently leads the championship scoring charts? How dangerous would he be with a 30 year old Danny Graham alongside? Blotted his copy book by hitting into Woodman's hands when clean through on goal from a narrow angle.

Subs
Markanday... 6 Put himself about but didn't improve much on Siggy.

Leonard.... 5 A notch down from Dolan. I think his time will come but wonder at the thinking behind using him last night with the more experienced Ennis available.

JDT.... 7 Put out the strongest team he could despite the horrendous injury list and his players responded and did him proud.
Just a point that we all know about, I was speaking to a Nob Ender in the pub after the match and he said how delighted he was with our short corner routines. We did OK given our height deficiency but surely not every time? The advantage of surprise is always valuable in football and not to have different routines providing options from corner kicks and free kicks is incomprehensible.

Referee Thoma Bramall.... 7 I quite like this chap as he prefers to let the game flow but last night he took that too far and allowed Preston to get away with (imo) an unacceptable mix of dark arts and brutality.
 

goozburger.

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I'll get back to reviews and so on in due course (mostly due to work). I wasn't aware anybody really paid attention to them. :laughing:

I still feel positive about Rovers in spite of the result. Our injury list is dreadful, and we suffered for it against Preston, but we were much the better side. Preston are going through a nice patch at the moment but they won't maintain that.
 

khmerblue

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Square pegs in round holes.Travis is a liability at right back.Brittian loses all his attacking instincts when at left back.We let Edun leave because we have Batty who is rated good enough for the first team according to Broughton.Its about time he plays and is given his chance i know friday was a big game maybe we missed a trick not playing him at Chelsea.We need cover for Pickering or even someone pushing for his place if Batty is that man he needs to play when needed.ps he scored for the u21s yesterday.
 

Drog

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Keeping them 🤞goozburger.
 
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Yorkshire 22

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Always a lot more of a chore writing reviews after a defeat but it's different today as the rovers gave their all in a pulsating match and ultimately were undone by a spate of injuries decimating the entire defence as well as injuries to midfield and attack namely JRC, Hedges and Gallagher holing SS BRFC below the water line.
So I can't remember seeing a bigger clash of styles for some time. Rovers all intricate accurate passing v PNE's direct up and at em style. Fair play to Ryan Lowe, he must have PNE's wide men practising delivering 'exocets' into the area every day. Just the type of crosses that centre forwards love.
Yet again we largely dominated the opening 25 minutes without scoring only to concede the minute we take a collective breather. Visiting teams must know us well and form a formidable defensive shield before hitting back and inevitably scoring the opener and leaving us with an uphill battle. Testament to this borne out by As is now usual every week the conversation in the pub revolves around how much we need a target man aka a proper No 9. The type of player who can trade physically with the toughest centre halves and yet still be Johnny on the Spot when the ball comes in from the wings. We haven't had one since age overtook the excellent 'Big Dog' Danny Graham. Now with the Pune purse strings reportedly slammed shut at by the New Delhi branch of the Burnley supporters club it doesn't appear to me that we have much chance of finding the man we need in January. 5 defeats out of 8 matches at Ewood doesn't make good reading does it?
Last nights possession stats of 60:40 and 22 shots on goal v 9 doesn't matter a damn when the only stat that matters reads 1-2 to PNE does it? Yes we are injury hit, yes our squad is more than a little lightweight and just about the youngest in the championship but that is of little comfort when a 91st minute winner by our local rivals steals the points.

Wahlstedt.... 7 A few blips in recent weeks but he kept goal pretty well last night. Maybe he should have done better with his positioning for PNE's first goal but it was struck with such venom that it would have needed to actually hit him to prevent it hitting the net.

Travis... 6 Influential performance given his limitations at right back, but why did he go awol for Brown's goal and then leave Browne all alone to dink the ball in to Lindsay for their 90th minute winner?

Hill ... 8 Strong performance against PNE's bully boy strikers.

Wharton S See above. Fouled time and again by PNE's strikers when going for balls in the air but all largely ignored for some reason by Ref Bramall.

Brittain... 7 Not his best match of late but obviously missing a berth on the right and his blossoming partnership with JRC.

Tronstadt... 7 Stood up well v Preston's central midfield but somehow his work goes largely unnoticed.

Wharton A... 7 Good and bad performance from Adam. So influential on the ball with a superb range of passing but needs to do much better off the ball. His slip (probably the third of the night.... studs?) handed possession to PNE from which the winning goal ultimately materialised.

Moran... 7 Striking up a great partnership with Adam Wharton in midfield. Their partnership oozes premier league class at times. So unlucky when he thundered a volley against the bar after 44 minutes.

Sigurdsson... 6 Neat and tidy but somehow the Lancashire Hot Pot match didn't appear to be of his liking. So unlucky to be another to hit the bar in that first half.

Dolan... 7 Ran himself into the ground for the cause.

Szmodics ..7 Not at his best but what can you say about a player who notches most weeks and currently leads the championship scoring charts? How dangerous would he be with a 30 year old Danny Graham alongside? Blotted his copy book by hitting into Woodman's hands when clean through on goal from a narrow angle.

Subs
Markanday... 6 Put himself about but didn't improve much on Siggy.

Leonard.... 5 A notch down from Dolan. I think his time will come but wonder at the thinking behind using him last night with the more experienced Ennis available.

JDT.... 7 Put out the strongest team he could despite the horrendous injury list and his players responded and did him proud.
Just a point that we all know about, I was speaking to a Nob Ender in the pub after the match and he said how delighted he was with our short corner routines. We did OK given our height deficiency but surely not every time? The advantage of surprise is always valuable in football and not to have different routines providing options from corner kicks and free kicks is incomprehensible.

Referee Thoma Bramall.... 7 I quite like this chap as he prefers to let the game flow but last night he took that too far and allowed Preston to get away with (imo) an unacceptable mix of dark arts and brutality.
what do you want us to do not tackle & while you tip tap with the Ball .
Stop moaning about injuries we have 6 of 1st our team out Emile Riis Hughes Cunningham Ramsey McCann & jack Whatmough but we don’t use as a excuse.
 

Drog

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Hmmmmmm....... A case for the defence M'Lud.
Welcome yorkshire 22. Good to hear your views. Keep it civil though please. ;)
 

Barmitzvah Boy

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Hmmmmmm....... A case for the defence M'Lud.
Welcome yorkshire 22. Good to hear your views. Keep it civil though please. ;)
We could do with a bit more aversion with our game. The only Rovers player with some is Travis and he does not know how best to direct and exploit his aggression.

Our side is crying out for an experienced player like Andy Todd, Kevin Moran, Glen Keeley.

JDT just wants to play fancy Dan football.
 

davebirch

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what do you want us to do not tackle & while you tip tap with the Ball .
Stop moaning about injuries we have 6 of 1st our team out Emile Riis Hughes Cunningham Ramsey McCann & jack Whatmough but we don’t use as a excuse.
Take your point Y22, but remember, this is a very young Rovers side, who have yet to master the dark arts practiced by a lot of championship teams.
 

Drog

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I think pne need a bit more quality to challenge at the top whilst the rovers need a bit more aggression to do the same. Oh.... and a no 9!
 

Yorkshire 22

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Hmmmmmm....... A case for the defence M'Lud.
Welcome yorkshire 22. Good to hear your views. Keep it civil though please. ;)
Which highlights of rovers games you always look for early goal.
We don’t worry about not having possession we consecrate on not conceding early goals .
we love to hit them long cross field passes all the time which causes teams all sorts of problems .Rovers play nice football to the eye but to much tip tap trying to walk the ball in no plan B.
We forced
Take your point Y22, but remember, this is a very young Rovers side, who have yet to master the dark arts practiced by a lot of championship teams.
it Sounds a simple answer bringing in more experience for your young team . Who do you replace to get the experience players in.
how many of your present squad will make premiership as players ? realistically In the future.
The gap is so wide now for Burnley Pne & Rovers . The premiere league is a closed shop now while sky running the show.
I know lots of Burnley fans who wanted to stay in the championship instead of fighting in the bottom 6 every season.
Most pne fans are realistic Burnley fans no the score & sorry Rovers fans are still living in the Jack Walker era .
Not meaning to be rude .
Friday night was as exiting as any PL game it had the lot a draw would have been a fare result but I personally I thought rovers had gone the last 15 mins & were struggling a bit .
You will probably win the reverse fixture at deepdale.
 

Drog

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I think you'll find very few on here who are living in the (fairly) recent past of the JW era. Most on here are well old enough to rem the dark day's of the 60's, 70's and 80's, the decades after the max wage was abolished. Back then Rovers, PNE, Burnley, Blackpool and Bolton were all lording in in the old 1st Division. It was a dark day for football fans in this area when that happened as within 4 years all except Burnley were in the lower Divisions and they followed shortly after when their "Team of the 70's" boast vanished before their eyes.

I recall suggesting, to much criticism, back then that Jack W should have demolished the old Ewood, bought the rest of the above (they would all have come for a pittance as they were all struggling in football's basement at the time) and built a new ground for a new Lancashire club somewhere close to the junctions of the M65,M61 and M55. I could see that for all the massive wealth that Jack possessed and was willing to spend in order to catch up with the City slickers that the model would be unsustainable. So it proved and the Freedom of Contract situation has made it even worse as can be seen with the Rovers / Lenihan, Rothwell and Brereton cases in the past couple of seasons. Power is all in the players hands and developing clubs lose out financially. A Premier league club not

I won't opine that Sky has ruined the game in this country but it has ruined the structure. Every league in Europe has turned into replica's of Scottish football where the league is dominated by two or three 'have's and the have nots won't ever stand a chance. It's a warning because all football fans exist on hope and when that is destroyed their loyalty to their club and the game in general is destroyed too.

We are in a pile of debt (I feel Burnley will soon be too) and clearing that is the only reason that I would want to see the Rovers get promotion. I love the competitiveness of the Championship, It's refreshing and invigorating, unfortunately it could be better if the authorities could do away with the ridiculous parachute payments that suit ONLY players and their agents because that is where the money drains to. The bottom three of the Prem are the three that got promoted with just 3 wins and 27 defeats between them! Who tf want's that after the exihlaration of a promotion season? You need to be careful what you wish for Yorkshire, promotion is fine for directors and shareholders but is most definitely NOT the Holy Grail for the supporters of those clubs. Even a PNE version of Jack Walker wouldn't be enough these days as successful club owners now have to be multi billionaires as the days of common or garden multi millionaires have gone.
 

Alan

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All I can say is that if you believe that dirty football a la Ched Evans is the only way to win then I prefer to watch the Rovers version of football even if it means disappointment once in awhile
 

Drog

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For Chad Evans read Ashley Barnes last season. Al I like players who are fiery and give opponents a hard time. The never say die, give as good as they get attitude that the likes of Speedie and Dickov had is priceless. Go further back and Fergy could mix it with anybody. For defenders Keeley, Bray, Todd, Macnamee etc were real tough guys. Crowd favourites all of them.
 

Yorkshire 22

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It’s academic as Knob End will always be the only Lancashire club never to have reached the premier league.
😂
We have been close a couple of times but play off don’t seem to be our thing.
But for me it’s only a way of paying off Debts.
We seem to be building a decent fan base home & away 2,500 average away this season 3rd best which can only be good long term as our fan base was getting a bit old.
Still don’t enjoy football as much as the 60s 70s
 

Alan

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For Chad Evans read Ashley Barnes last season. Al I like players who are fiery and give opponents a hard time. The never say die, give as good as they get attitude that the likes of Speedie and Dickov had is priceless. Go further back and Fergy could mix it with anybody. For defenders Keeley, Bray, Todd, Macnamee etc were real tough guys. Crowd favourites all of them.
I don't mind hard players but hate deliberately dirty players who don't care if they cripple opponents and go out of their way to intimidate them.
 

Yorkshire 22

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All I can say is that if you believe that dirty football a la Ched Evans is the only way to win then I prefer to watch the Rovers version of football even if it means disappointment once in awhile
CE is a better player than you think he changed the match Friday .
He gets knocked about him self .
If you think CE is dirty you can’t have watched football in the 60s 70s 80s .
 

Yorkshire 22

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I don't mind hard players but hate deliberately dirty players who don't care if they cripple opponents and go out of their way to intimidate them.
Did you see anything from ched on Friday I remember travis putting his foot in at ched when he was seeing the ball out of play for a throw & ched jump to avoid it.
Ched has had life threatening injury last season.
There wast much what I call dirty play Friday .
Derby matches should always have that edge

this season rovers 38 yellows 2 reds
Pne 42 yellow cards no reds 🤫
 
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