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Drog

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"Lest we forget" Obvious starter here was Gary Linekar on MoTD asking Alan Shearer's opinion on Romalu Lukaku scoring over 20 goals for Everton yet wanting to leave the club at the end of the season!:eek: I've watched it twice now and there wasn't a flicker on either of their faces tbh I'm sure the massive irony was lost on the pair of them! Even more ironic was that Shearer's partner in punditry was Graeme Le Saux and on the MoTD intro Linekar even commented that it's now 22 years since the pair of them lifted the Premier League Trophy as teammates.
 
Drog

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Second up this morning a refreshingly candid post match comment from Everton's Ronald Koeman following Everton's apparent 4-0 'thrashing' of Hull City. The result was very harsh on Hull who with the match still finely balanced at 1-0 to everton were still easily in the game, when Paul Tierney decided to show the straight red card after 75 minutes to Tom Huddleston for what most would describe as a 'debatable' challenge on Everton's Gueye. Koeman commented frankly and honestly that the challenge did not warrant a red card. Now try as I might I cannot bring myself to believe that the likes of Mourhino or Wenger would even have made that comment in their dreams.
As for Paul Tierney I can understand his decision as the rulemakers and TV analysis have made them always err on the 'safe' side with most decisions for the good of their career BUT the one side of the equation who are constantly cheated most are the fans. Awaydays at Prem grounds cost a lot of money in admission, travel etc and Hull City fans had a long way to travel home feeling cheated out of their hard earned and with a bitter taste in their mouths, Everton fans obviously not as far but I'm pretty sure even taking into account the win at all costs mentality of the Premier League that the more reasoned amongst them will also regret the denial of the match as a spectacle for the supporters after 75 mins. For all the debate on TV over these issues I've never heard any consideration given toward the fans yet. My long held opinion is that a 'blue' card to signify a compulsory substitution would solve these issue without impacting on the matchday experience.
 
Drog

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I still prefer the compulsory substitution with a 3 or 4 point penalty.
 
Mike E

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Would soon clear cheats/diving/simulation out the game with retrospective punishment too. A point off the team total per dive? 20% of any weekly wage (while banned from playing) donated to grassroots football?
 
Drog

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Hmm thats a bit harsh because there are many 'shades' of diving. Who could have blamed Coleman the other day if he'd decided to dive over Taylor's lunge? Also I am still of the opinion that Vardy was fouled before he was punished for THAT dive last season. Vardy's sheer pace and light frame means that even a slight nudge can knock him off line.
Players should be given the benefit of the doubt but any galingly obvious dive should result in a 1 match ban.
 
Mike E

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Just 1 match? Not enough imo. I'd at least argue it should be 3, same as violent conduct, especially as it has more potential to affect the game result re: false penalties/free kicks.
 
AllRoverAsia

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I do not think that a dive can be compared to violent conduct. Maybe VC should be upped to 5 games. Then we are well on the way to football being the non contact sport desired by some but not me.

I do dislike cheating by diving but equally I dislike the rugby mauls that occur at every free or corner kick which are totally ignored by Refs most of the time or until added time if its a top 5 team.

I am convinced that players have training sessions that include diving techniques and how to tug a shirt ;)

Actually best left until instant video evidence is used. Refs make enough errors already.
 
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Drog

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AllRoverAsia said:
Actually best left until instant video evidence is used. Refs make enough errors alteady.
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True but unfortunately that cannot apply to the amateur and semi pro leagues. That is a stumbling block with many of these new 'tekky' based rules.
 
AllRoverAsia

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Drog said:
True but unfortunately that cannot apply to the amateur and semi pro leagues. That is a stumbling block with many of these new 'tekky' based rules.
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We will end up with 2 forms of the game. One for the rich who can afford the IT and one for the poor. The PL will become like ballet on grass kicking a round thing and a conductor called a Ref.

I will not be watching!

Seriously if big penalties are put on diving Refs without tech are in an impossible situation and its first season of usage will be a shambles. Maybe the sin bin idea is worth a go. Whatever I do dislike diving.
 
Drog

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Probably retrospective bans are the safe way for the grounds that have the tech available.
 
Drog

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yoda said:
How the f can the dingles have lost money in 2016 ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39438052
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Sean Dyche's bonus. Something significant must be keeping him there. (Dunno what it is but I advised us doing a profit share for the Taffia when Mark Hughes was here. Ridiculed wildly of course by many in't t'other place and especially so by the Cross Maltese.). Also they'll be putting everything they can through the accounts that year to reduce their tax liability. As my old fella used to say 'it's one thing earning it and another thing keeping it'.
 
Majiball

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I read the other day that the FA is to impose a new rule in regards interviews for jobs at football clubs. Shortly whenever a job is advertised every club must give an interview to at least one 'coloured' person, provided they tick the minimum requirements for the job. Now whilst I can understand that they desire more people of this heritage to be involved, is that not in it's self racist? I feel that it gives an unfair advantage to people of that heritage over a caucasian. I am not racist, so don't be trying that one but surely it should be best man for the job regardless of colour?
 
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Majiball said:
I read the other day that the FA is to impose a new rule in regards interviews for jobs at football clubs. Shortly whenever a job is advertised every club must give an interview to at least one 'coloured' person, provided they tick the minimum requirements for the job. Now whilst I can understand that they desire more people of this heritage to be involved, is that not in it's self racist? I feel that it gives an unfair advantage to people of that heritage over a caucasian. I am not racist, so don't be trying that one but surely it should be best man for the job regardless of colour?
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Fully agree with you Drog, it's always been one that I can never understand: The fact that the FA have made an issue of it, in itself makes the FA racist in my book.
Best person for the job irrespective, unless of course the FA can point out specifics where 'coloured' people have failed to get a job when they were clearly the outstanding candidate, they should but out.
 
Drog

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Wasn't me you agreed with Nick it was majiball.

Anyway who can criticise the FA when the likes of the Police Forces and even the selection of prospective Parliamentary candidates have been skewed by the demand to selectively shoehorn non whites / women into positions and in doing so relegating actual merit to 3rd option.
 
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