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[Old Darwen Blue]

Call me old fashioned but wild horses couldn't drag me there.

Notting Hill: Eight stabbed with man, 29, in a 'critical condition'

Detectives had praised the 'positive' and 'good-natured' atmosphere across the weekend but officers were forced into action after the carnival descended into violence on Bank Holiday Monday.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The Met absolutely hate that event.

 

[Old Darwen Blue]

Don't ever let this page move to 227. It always bring Selma up at the top.
If some mod can always have that post at the top of every page it would be appreciated.

Not an issue Dave, I can keep posting this. Always happy to help.

 

[Drog]

Don't ever let this page move to 227. It always bring Selma up at the top.
If some mod can always have that post at the top of every page it would be appreciated.

It's quite simple dave.... just change your avatar. I'm sure Selma is preferable to a crocodile's arse anway!

 

[Drog]

Some serious weather ruining holidays in skiathos is a shame but why should people ask the government for help? As in life in general, You pays your money and takes your chance.

 

[Old Darwen Blue]

Brilliant weather all week in Blackburn!

 

[Drog]

Suella Braverman pushes for ban on American bully XLs after attack | Dangerous dogs | The Guardian

Home secretary calls breed ‘clear and lethal danger’ after attack on 11-year-old girl in Birmingham

amp.theguardian.com

Those dogs have been bred for one purpose and one purpose only so I can understand this issue. However someone came in the local with one of these and I have to say she was a friendly and delightful little bitch. What her temperament would have been like if she'd been a dog I hesitate to comment, except to say I wouldn't like a bite off one that's for sure. Then again I wouldn't fancy a bite from a Rottweiler/ Alsatian/ mastiff etc etc.

As my old dad used to say "if you can't fight, get a big dog".

 

[Drog]

Brilliant weather all week in Blackburn!

Gonna end today.

 

[Old Darwen Blue]

Suella Braverman pushes for ban on American bully XLs after attack | Dangerous dogs | The Guardian

Home secretary calls breed ‘clear and lethal danger’ after attack on 11-year-old girl in Birmingham

amp.theguardian.com

Those dogs have been bred for one purpose and one purpose only so I can understand this issue. However someone came in the local with one of these and I have to say she was a friendly and delightful little bitch. What her temperament would have been like if she'd been a dog I hesitate to comment, except to say I wouldn't like a bite off one that's for sure. Then again I wouldn't fancy a bite from a Rottweiler/ Alsatian/ mastiff etc etc.

As my old dad used to say "if you can't fight, get a big dog".

Hmm, a secret Guardian reader?

 

[Alan]

These dogs are bred for one purpose only and that is as attack and fighting. They are not suitable for pets or being with the general public and therefore should be banned from this country and in my opinion from the USA too.

 

[Drog]

Russell Brand accused of rape and sexual assault - BBC News

The comedian and actor denies allegations about his behaviour over a period of seven years - and performs a scheduled gig.

www.bbc.com

If there was ever anybody's head that I would love to kick in its brand. Let's hope he gets sent down for a long time! I can't abide the bugger.

 

[Old Darwen Blue]

I have never liked that big mouthed lefty, I bet Katy Perry has some tales to tell.

 

[Drog]

Absolutely shocking what he and Johnathan Ross did in the name of comedy to Andrew Sachs and his family. They both deserved a good hiding from someone for that.

 

[Drog]

They might be able to repair the architectural mistakes get those houses finished now.

Asda issues £2.1 billion dividend as profits plunge 80% after Issa brothers takeover

Asda declared a £2.1 billion dividend the year after being bought by the billionaire Issa brothers, accounts published today show, as the pair sought to juggle debts around their sprawling retail and petrol forecourt empire.

www.standard.co.uk

 

[Drog]

Rather surprised to find the insurance for my wife's car (Mini Cooper D) has gone up to £240, I asked my broker what it was last year and he said £160. Now I know it isn't much compared to some people's but....
I said 'how the hell can you justify a 50% increase?'
He said 'Well it's just the same as electricity, gas and food' everything went up this year.'
I said 'Bollocks! they've all come down again. Anyway who regulates the insurance business?'
He said 'It's the F S A'.
I said 'Sounds more like the S C A M.'

I believe the govt is querying some of the tactics of insurance companies at the moment but imo insurance is as a I said, just a legalised scam!

 

[goozburger.]

Only one thing will put the Middle East situation to bed, or at least partially in bed. A two-state solution. Until then, Israeli and Palestinian civilians will continue to die in their thousands.

Where is the hunger from the leaders of both sides to achieve a resolution to this tragic situation? There are too many tyrants.

 

[blueandwhitehalves]

Is Palestine not already a state? The UN recognised it in 2012, and it had its own elections (in which the Palestinian people heinously voted for globally recognised terrorists to lead them in 2006), government (said terrorists), security (said terrorists), laws, diplomatic relations, monetary authority etc.

I guess Israel could recognise it, but personally I don't think it'd make any difference. Islam is the aggressor the world over, be it a dozen states across central Africa, half a dozen across South East Asia, countless terrorist attacks in Europe. The world can carry on placating it, god knows if we've even a choice at this point. But it'll get us exactly where the last 70 years have gotten us.

 

[Drog]

Indeed so. The citizens voted hamas into power so they have to live with it.
The current trouble is down mainly to an Iranian / hamas tactic to destroy the Israel and Saudia (etc) peace talks.

 

[Old Darwen Blue]

I reckon the USA put that carrier group in the med just in case they get a chance of attacking Iran.

 

[goozburger.]

Is Palestine not already a state?

It depends which country you ask. 28.5% of United Nations member states, including the UK, do not recognise Palestine as a state, as opposed to 71.5% of United Nations member states that do.

Officially, Britain will see Israel in the midst of a civil war, with a terrorist group attacking its own state.

Officially, Sweden will see Israel at war with Palestine.

What is sad is that the Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO), along with Israeli governments of times gone by, were at least remotely interested in a long-term peace agreement over a two-state solution, even if it never came to fruition.

I don't know why Palestinians voted for Hamas in 2006, but their policy of wanting to destroy Israel is official. Those who voted for Hamas clearly have no hunger for peace. Instead, they simply hate Israel and want it and its people wiped out.

However, that Hamas were voted into the administrative government of the Palestinian regions does not mean that all Palestinians are on their side. I disagree with this apparent "an eye for an eye" retaliation from Netanyahu because he must know that he is inevitably going to be killing innocent civilians, which is what terrorist groups such as Hamas do. Every man and his dog on TV are saying "Israel has the right to defend herself" when asked about Netanyahu's response to the Hamas attacks, they never actually say that they support what the response has been. Why? Because it's brutal. All you have to do is look at the pictures of Gaza.

Hamas are Palestinians, but not all Palestinians are Hamas. That appears to have been lost on a lot of people who think that what is going on with Israel's response is fair game. I suspect Crispin Blunt will prove to be correct. I can sense some restraint in the official support of Israel because the elephant in the room is that there is a danger of war crimes. War crimes against war crimes. It's a tragic situation.

I read a good article that broke-down the timeline of Palestine and Israel since the 1880s. It is a complex situation that too many people are simplifying into taking the side of Israel or Palestine. My take is that the leaders of both sides are making the situation worse. Hamas need wiping out, but Netanyahu's response is something that I doubt many government officials of states that support Israel are comfortable with.

 

[blueandwhitehalves]

It depends which country you ask. 28.5% of United Nations member states, including the UK, do not recognise Palestine as a state, as opposed to 71.5% of United Nations member states that do.

Officially, Britain will see Israel in the midst of a civil war, with a terrorist group attacking its own state.

Officially, Sweden will see Israel at war with Palestine.

What is sad is that the Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO), along with Israeli governments of times gone by, were at least remotely interested in a long-term peace agreement over a two-state solution, even if it never came to fruition.

I don't know why Palestinians voted for Hamas in 2006, but their policy of wanting to destroy Israel is official. Those who voted for Hamas clearly have no hunger for peace. Instead, they simply hate Israel and want it and its people wiped out.

However, that Hamas were voted into the administrative government of the Palestinian regions does not mean that all Palestinians are on their side. I disagree with this apparent "an eye for an eye" retaliation from Netanyahu because he must know that he is inevitably going to be killing innocent civilians, which is what terrorist groups such as Hamas do. Every man and his dog on TV are saying "Israel has the right to defend herself" when asked about Netanyahu's response to the Hamas attacks, they never actually say that they support what the response has been. Why? Because it's brutal. All you have to do is look at the pictures of Gaza.

Hamas are Palestinians, but not all Palestinians are Hamas. That appears to have been lost on a lot of people who think that what is going on with Israel's response is fair game. I suspect Crispin Blunt will prove to be correct. I can sense some restraint in the official support of Israel because the elephant in the room is that there is a danger of war crimes. War crimes against war crimes. It's a tragic situation.

I read a good article that broke-down the timeline of Palestine and Israel since the 1880s. It is a complex situation that too many people are simplifying into taking the side of Israel or Palestine. My take is that the leaders of both sides are making the situation worse. Hamas need wiping out, but Netanyahu's response is something that I doubt many government officials of states that support Israel are comfortable with.

Good post, acknowledge some of those points. But the Israeli government has a responsibility to defend its citizens. It baffles me when people/the media don't seem to place any particular emphasis on who struck first. Who struck first is massively important to me, because its an indication of whether they'll strike again. And, like a lot of Muslim countries (Turkey, Iran, Sudan), things are only getting worse, more Islamist, more aggressive.

Hamas, with the support of the Palestinian people, will attack Israel forever as things stand, and with increasing damage it seems. So for me Israel actually has the right to annihilate Hamas, never mind an eye for an eye. And frankly I have little sympathy for the Palestinian people who elected Hamas with the blessing to conduct their appalling behaviour, and who wildly celebrate every Jewish death, be it a soldier or a 2 month old.

The history of Palestine and Israel should be considered back to 1,000BC and the Kingdom of Israel which was peacefully established and gave the Jewish people legitimacy in that part of the world for over one and a half millennia before Islam arrived. Jews were subjects to a multitude of empires, but they continued to live in the middle east (until Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Iraq etc started persecuting them out of existence) and they have as much a right to that land as any Palestinian if you ask me.

It can't be one state, because the government would ruthlessly persecute their citizens of the other religion. So Palestine etc must acknowledge Israel's right to exist. They refused that when Clinton offered it, so they are the guilty party in my opinion.