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Wilpshire Blue

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Lots of kids at that concert, many now dead.
I can't imagine the horror of turning up to pick up one of mine after the gig, hearing the blast and having to search for them.
For those that found the worst possible outcome to that search, you have my deepest sympathy.
Truly dreadful.
 
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ABBEY

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just seen this. I have tear filled eyes this morning . HOW CAN YOU MURDER CHILDREN IN THE NAME OF RELEGION. THE NUMBER OF TIMES IVE BEEN THERE MAKES IT MORE REAL.IM SUPPOSED TO BE THERE ON TUESDAY FOR KISS.
 

yoda

Senior Member
I wonder how the luvvies are feeling this morning now that the poorly heads have started killing children in the most civillised country on the planet
 

chor808

Senior Member
Shocking stuff again, nothing will change. There are no consequences for the scum that do this, until there are this will carry on. Relegion is the problem, ban all relegion from schools and I mean all.
 

Drog

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Now I'm making an assumption here based on recent terrorist offences across Europe that a. the bomber is some muslim crazee and b. that he has come across the security forces radar at some time or other.


My contempt and revulsion toward that evil religion and it's brainwashed followers increases by the day. The target concerned would mean there were lots of teenage girls in the audience when the warped bastard blew himself and them to Kingdom come. Surely it can't have been connected in that evil bastards warped mind to the recent 'Three Girl's' drama documentary based in Greater Manchester? Could it?

"The supreme function of statesmanship is to provide against preventable evils." Powell 68. (I doubt even terrorist sympathiser Corbyn could argue with that.) The basic premise of our law needs amending to a reverse situation in regards to Terror suspects from the time honoured 'innocent until proven guilty' to the polar opposite 'guilty until proven innocent'. Simple enough process, we just need to establish our own Guantanamo Bay somewhere on some uninhabited rock in the Hebrides so that anybody with question marks hanging over their heads can be removed from British society until they can be fully investigated and interrogated and prove their innocence beyond all reasonable doubt. Allowing known terrorist sympathisers to roam free in our society is just a complete dereliction of duty.
 

Drog

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Shocking stuff again, nothing will change. There are no consequences for the scum that do this, until there are this will carry on. Relegion is the problem, ban all relegion from schools and I mean all.
Fully agree. There should be NO religious schools. BwD council's stupidity beggars belief. By allowing such education establishments to spring up as they have done is making divisions in society just so much worse. The lengths they will go to to retain power in Blackburn is reprehensible. They are doing the citizen of Blackburn no favours whatsoever and simply storing up trouble for the future.
However we must beware of driving religious teachings underground by making sure that we constantly inspecting the credentials of the immams and mullahs. Might be a moot point chor but imo with regards to many followers of islam the seeds of fundamentalism are sown before the children even go to school with indoctrination continuing out of school hours.
 
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Otto Mann

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I wonder how the luvvies are feeling this morning now that the poorly heads have started killing children in the most civillised country on the planet
How are they feeling? They're telling everyone that these people aren't muslim, accusing anyone who speaks out as being racist etc etc. The usual left wing apologists are doing their best to deflect and turn this against those outraged by this atrocity. It really is a good job I'm not in punching distance of some of these people!
 

chor808

Senior Member
Fully agree. There should be NO religious schools. BwD council's stupidity beggars belief. By allowing such education establishments to spring up as they have done is making divisions in society just so much worse. The lengths they will go to to retain power in Blackburn is reprehensible. They are doing the citizen of Blackburn no favours whatsoever and simply storing up trouble for the future.
However we must beware of driving religious teachings underground by constantly inspecting the credentials of the immams and mullahs. Might be a moot point but imo with regards to many followers of islam the seeds of fundamentalism are sown before the children even go to school.
Kids listen to their parents and teachers and believe what they are told. I watched something years ago on the middle east with parents and teachers of Jewish and islam teaching the kids nothing but hate. I told my lad to hate Burnley, shame on me really, he has never been near Burnley but hates them. I won't be doing that anymore.

That article on Blackburn where all the schools are one race are another, that should be banned, out right. You have to mix kids in school.
 

Drog

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How are they feeling? They're telling everyone that these people aren't muslim, accusing anyone who speaks out as being racist etc etc. The usual left wing apologists are doing their best to deflect and turn this against those outraged by this atrocity. It really is a good job I'm not in punching distance of some of these people!
They are indeed. It's the old 'not all muslims are bad people' mantra. Tbh I agree, not all muslims are bad people but but unlike me above (post 146) the 'apologists' are not offering an alternative or acceptable way forward.
 
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ABBEY

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I was always against them but it's time for ID cards biometric ones. Anyone stopped without one 10 years anyone stopped and illegal to the country then them and all there family sent to a country of there religion.
 
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ABBEY

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I see the pc brigade out in full force accusing racism hear there and everywhere, especially the one who said his white pupils are trash.
 

blueandwhitehalves

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What can you say eh. Pure scum, the blight of humanity, the biggest threat to our future.

When the left expresses its disbelief at 'Turkeys voting for christmas' and what have you regarding the conservatives recent success, I think they forget that people really, really care about atrocities like this.

And Labour are just way too soft on it. The first reaction is always 'We shouldn't let this encourage Islamophobia'. People have had enough of hearing that, they want to hear 'this is a massive problem and if we get in, we're going to try and do something about it'.

More chance of Corbyn spontaneously morphing into orange jelly than there is of him saying that. Rightly or wrongly this has just dealt Labour's election chances a hammer blow by reminding everyone of the enemy we face and the backbone required to take it on.
 

OnlyOneTugay

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This is tragic , but these tragedies will continue unabated and occur more frequently until , as numerous posters above have said , we put measures into place to at least reduce the odds of them increasing .

I'm flabbergasted every time some politician or commentator comes on TV and says now that ISIS is being dismantled in their caliphate , hundreds of seasoned fighters will return home . Right ................what's the obvious answer to that ? See Gordon's comment :

"The basic premise of our law needs amending to a reverse situation in regards to Terror suspects from the time honoured 'innocent until proven guilty' to the polar opposite 'guilty until proven innocent'. "

Now that's me being optimistic that something can/will be done , however I tend to be a glass half empty type of guy . So this is now me being a realist/pessimist .

Non muslims are at best being discriminated against in Muslim countries and at worse being bombed out of them. I don't have the figures to hand but Christians are now an ever diminishing and despised minority in the Muslim middle east and Muslim africa. Yes it's the extremists and hard liners that have caused this , but the rest of the muslim population have let it happen and appear to be comfortable with their entirely Muslim lands .

Western Europe has had it - we've lost the war . The apologists , the lefties , the liberals , the luvvies , the virtue signallers , the political party that rely on muslim votes et al have seen to that.

Let's take the UK . An increasing Muslim minority , with double or triple birthrates to non muslims . Initially like most immigrant populations , they settled in mini ghettos just like the West Indians. However that's where it stops . Whereas on the whole the West Indians integrated ( my wife's family is from Nevis and St Kitts - I'm white ) , Islam doesn't allow that . So the ghettos get bigger and like Blackburn, become large swathes of the town . Once that happens the religion becomes enboldened and assertive . Muslim schools , maddrasses , education centres , sharia law , burkas , niqabs - Preston New Road can sometimes resemble Saudi Arabia when the girls from Tauheedul are released

We then get bombings like last night . - a sort of warning , don't mess with Islam or this what you can expect . What government would dare or is brave enough to give muslim women equal rights, for example , by banning sharia law and ( in most cases) the forced wearing of burkas/face veils or reconsidering the funding of Muslim schools ? No chance

I'm serious when I say there is a likelihood that the UK will be Islamic in 100 years
 
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Alan

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BIZ
The people who did it are not Muslim. They might purport to be, they might use it as their excuse but when we point fingers at an entire group of people because of the actions of a few, we end up doing exactly what the scum wants.
3 hours ago, roverandout said:
Retaliation needed
BIZ
Care to explain or just another idiot using this to push hatred against an entire religion of people?
BIZ
Nothing wrong with me, I'm not the one abusing billions of people because the actions of an absolute minority. Stop using this to push your racist agenda

This is what Biz posted. Exactly what you would expect from him and the luvvies.
In fact there are many more in that vein but I can't copy them all.

Who can now deny that Enoch Powell was absolutely correct, but they will still call him racist. If he was then so am I.
It's too late now unless we can find a strong PM who will deport anybody SUSPECTED of having terrorist opinions and stop any more from coming in. You could start with any of them in Blackburn who are celebrating 9/11 with fireworks. We desperately need a Donald Trump.
I am furious today!
 
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ABBEY

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It's like audaux got told he was an idiot.
Buggers belief really they can't see even today of all days that not all modern day Muslims are terrorists but 99% modern day terrorists are Muslim .
I was just chatting to a friend who I've known for years ,going back to teenagers from my wrestling days and he's a Muslim .He is fuming at what's happening and pleaded with me not to fall out with him.
Even he said it's time for a clampdown on the radical mosques. How it happens he didn't know.
Such a sad sad day. Some of those kids will have been on a first night out as well.
Time to stop calling these scum killers ,they are mass murderers and time to stop gloryfing it as suicide bombing it's murder by cowards
 

Steve Moss

Senior Member
just seen this. I have tear filled eyes this morning . HOW CAN YOU MURDER CHILDREN IN THE NAME OF RELEGION. THE NUMBER OF TIMES IVE BEEN THERE MAKES IT MORE REAL.IM SUPPOSED TO BE THERE ON TUESDAY FOR KISS.
The jihadis are insane and should be lined up against the wall and shot. UK security services are allegedly aware of 3,500 of them (per an article in the Independent). That would be a good place to start.

But I don't think the problem is Islam, per se. My personal hypothesis is the problem is a combination of inbreeding and Islam. Most of the Islamic world is relatively peaceful. I suspect there are portions of the Islamic world were inbreeding has gone on for too long and it is negatively impacting their ability to reason, think and carry on with a normal life. Too many generations of cousin marriages will do that to a person. I suspect it is people from these areas which are responsible for a significant portion of Islamic related violence.

I wish the security services would track these sort of things. While not ideal (what form of evidence collection is), as a practical matter profiling is a valuable tool, as would be genetic testing, IQ testing, review of educational credentials, work history, questionnaires on an immigrant's attitudes on certain things (gays, infidels, etc.). And if they pass all of those, their status in the nation should be probationary for years.

None of this is helpful to the families. And none of the above changes the fact that Western nations need to strenuously control their borders. No non-citizen has a right to enter the UK or the USA. If these people are here legally it's because the security services did not do their jobs or, more correctly, politically correct politicians did not allow them to do their jobs.
 
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Vinjay

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Looks like army going on the streets. Hopefully shoot to kill
As in London a few weeks back it will be if deemed necessary. I'm sure the Army are less reluctant than the police to shoot if they need to. Plus its safer to aim right for the head if someone could be wearing an explosive vest.
 

Vinjay

Senior Member
Was just thinking too how strange it is that the Army have been deployed almost 24 hours later. The journalist Andrew Neil thinks another attack could be imminent and it does appear the government agree.
 

OnlyOneTugay

Prediction Champion 2019 & 2020
Just watching Newsnight who are reporting that the army may assist the police . The presenter left wing Evan Davis has to mention that it's being speculated that Theresa May is taking political advantage of the situation. The biased BBC is despicable , its just 24 hours since the tragedy for Heaven's sake .
 
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