The real Brexit thread

[yoda]

In your opinion JD obviously

 

[Steve Moss]

That headline is misleading as you would expect from a right wing pro-Brexit "newspaper".

Macron said over and over and over the exact opposite of what the headline of this article suggests.

Then he should have no problem allowing the French people a vote on the issue.

 

[Drog]

This is precisely what I have been saying since the referendum. We can't reverse the decision no matter how much effort that blow hard Blair and his fellow Remoaners put into sabotaging the nation's negotiations. The situation could never revert to what it was! The only way back would be to metaphorically speaking volunteer to be tied over a barrel and gang raped by the other 28 nations whenever they thought fit. There really can be no going back.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/907789/Remainers-EU-rejoining-return-second-referendum-euro-rebate

 

[yoda]

This is precisely what I have been saying since the referendum. We can't reverse the decision no matter how much effort that blow hard Blair and his fellow Remoaners put into sabotaging the nation's negotiations. The situation could never revert to what it was! The only way back would be to metaphorically speaking volunteer to be tied over a barrel and gang raped by the other 28 nations whenever they thought fit. There really can be no going back.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/907789/Remainers-EU-rejoining-return-second-referendum-euro-rebate

They still don't get it do they, you can't bully a Brit,
any way it looks like the EU have got us exactly where, we want them

 

[Benjamin Kaynine]

And where do we have "them" exactly ? Could either ME or GM explain ?

Macron, Merkel, Barnier et al have said many times there will be no cake and eat it for Britain. Let’s see how many more times it needs repeating to May and her gang of mendacious chancers before they finally admit that they’re about to sink the country into the ground in their ill-advised pursuit of the delusional Brexit fantasy.

Chris

 

[davebirch]

John, there's a reason why the EU hierarchy are worried.

They can't afford to let the UK leave. Can't afford.
As I keep saying there is a whole world of commerce outside the EU, and it's there for anyone willing to get off their backsides and go and get it. In the EU you have got to abide by the consensus of 28 nations, outside the EU you've only yourself to convince.
Inside the EU you have to pay for two sets of pollies, outside the EU, one set.
It really is a no brainer.

 

[Drog]

This is typical.

Last week, the EU introduced “a truly spectacular piece of regulation”, says Juliet Samuel. The Markets in Financial Instruments Directive II – Mifid II for short – weighs in at 7,000 pages, has 1.4 million paragraphs, will cost billions to implement and will achieve... precisely nothing. Its aim is to prevent such abuses as insider trading, and to that end it requires trading firms to collect and store reams of data, including recordings of phone calls and emails relating to every transaction they make. “The uselessness of this exercise is quite astounding.” Unlike more targeted rules introduced recently, it simply imposes an extra burden on firms while burying regulators under an unmanageable mass of data. It represents “a shift in regulatory philosophy” from the AngloSaxon to the French model, an obsession with sniffing out abuse rather than letting markets flourish. Mifid 2, as one City lawyer put it, is like “a fire hose being pointed at a coffee cup”. Accepting it was a price worth paying for market access to Europe. But if the EU refuses to negotiate a deal allowing our financial services to retain access after Brexit, we should waste no time in ditching it.
The Daily Telegraph

 

[Drog]

That headline is misleading as you would expect from a right wing pro-Brexit "newspaper".

So how do you like this one then from your favourite daily read, The Guardian?

Eighteen months on from the referendum, there is “little sign of buyer’s remorse” among voters, says Larry Elliott. Many have simply “switched off from Brexit” in the same way they ignore party politics between elections. But also, crucially, there is no sign of the “economic Armageddon” forecast by the “experts”. Luckily for Leavers, “the tide turned for the global economy around the time of the Brexit vote and the upswing will continue for some time yet”. Sure, the UK economy has been lacklustre compared with other big economies, but buyer’s remorse would require a full-blown recession and rocketing unemployment. Instead, employment is at a 42-year high. Remainers love to “over-hype the bad economic news”; maybe they’d convince more people if they pointed out that the part of the global economy that most outperformed expectations in 2017 was the eurozone. The UK economy will do better than expected in 2018, greatly reducing the chances of an exit from Brexit. “That it will do better partly as a result of a stronger eurozone is one of life’s ironies.”


If this were football John the chant would be "So now your gonna believe us. So now your gonna believe us...........

 

[Wilpshire Blue]

UK growth will dwarf any Brexit impact - so says a remainer

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42769090

 

[yoda]

And where do we have "them" exactly ? Could either ME or GM explain ?

Macron, Merkel, Barnier et al have said many times there will be no cake and eat it for Britain. Let’s see how many more times it needs repeating to May and her gang of mendacious chancers before they finally admit that they’re about to sink the country into the ground in their ill-advised pursuit of the delusional Brexit fantasy.

Chris

I don't need to explain, it is obvious to anyone who is not a dullard

 

[Wilpshire Blue]

Now Cameron is trying to change his tune
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42806207

 

[Drog]

The overriding message from the referendum result is to take the opinions of experts with a very large pinch of salt. We all might as well toss a coin as listen to them.

Def 'Expert'.......
An 'Ex' is a has-been and a 'spurt' is a drip under pressure.

 

[Steve Moss]

Apparently the US-UK are discussing trade deals.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-42819405

 

[yoda]

Apparently the US-UK are discussing trade deals.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-42819405

Yep, the remoaners will be pissed

 

[Benjamin Kaynine]

"Trump predicts tremendous increase in US-UK trade".

Well, of course he did.

The US has a trade deficit with the UK at present so there's only one way that's going to go.

And don't think a president who puts "America First" is going to give Britain any favours.

The stupidity of the 37% never fails to astound.

Chris

 

[yoda]

Not as stupid as the snowflakes, surprised you are still trying to antaganise people after your last faux pas

 

[Benjamin Kaynine]

EU-hating member resorts to using French. Quelle horreur !!!

E

 

[yoda]

 

[yoda]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=774761325989288

 

[Alan]

All of what they said would happen, behind our backs in Brussels, has in fact happened and we are getting out just in time. In fact abit too late if truth were known as we are expected to PAY to leave. I for one find that unbelievable.