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The real Brexit thread

Drog

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Who do you expect to pay for the Brussels and Strasbourg pensions if it isn't us and the Germans Al? Surely you aren't suggest that we abdicate our responsibilities like the other 27 nations are you?
 

Alan

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Who do you expect to pay for the Brussels and Strasbourg pensions if it isn't us and the Germans Al? Surely you aren't suggest that we abdicate our responsibilities like the other 27 nations are you?
Far be it from me to deny all those foreigners a prosperous retirement at our expense.
 

Drog

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How prophetic and how important to the overall context today eh? Did she have a tardis?
Can you imagine how she would have destroyed Corbyn and his band of treasonous left wing imbeciles.
 

yoda

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How prophetic and how important to the overall context today eh? Did she have a tardis?
Can you imagine how she would have destroyed Corbyn and his band of treasonous left wing imbeciles.
Probably in the same way JRM would do given a chance
 

Drog

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It's like with Allardyce... Abbey won't admit to being wrong even though events over time prove him wrong time and time again.

In't that the truth of it Abbs?:cool:
 

Benjamin Kaynine

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. In fact abit too late if truth were known as we are expected to PAY to leave. I for one find that unbelievable.
You get divorced and there is a bill to pay. It's pretty simple really. The Brexit backwoodsmen presumably think 40bn - 100bn depending on who you believe is a price worth paying.
 

yoda

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You get divorced and there is a bill to pay. It's pretty simple really. The Brexit backwoodsmen presumably think 40bn - 100bn depending on who you believe is a price worth paying.
Not all divorces are like that, besides you have to take into account what you brought into the marriage (£500 billion at the last count)
Then again being part of the 4th Reich is not the same as marriage, it is just lazy jorno's and remoaners that have coined that phrase.
 
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ABBEY

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It's like with Allardyce... Abbey won't admit to being wrong even though events over time prove him wrong time and time again.

In't that the truth of it Abbs?:cool:
ask my uncle and the mining villages.
 

Drog

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ask my uncle and the mining villages.
Why bother with that? Look closer to home and of much greater importance to the people of this area was our local wealth vanishing with the demise of the cotton industry. Carried back to India in Ghandi's bloody loin cloth! Did anybody have a massive national strike to protest at that? Miners come out for our lot when we needed them did they? Did they hell! Miners aren't still banging on decades later about the shit we had to suffer are they? Shipbuilders, trawlermen, car workers, farmers, steel workers, engineers etc etc... even the armed forces have suffered massive drops in personel as the modern world comes to terms with the demise of the term 'a job for life' . Why not look at your industry? How many switchboard girls lost their jobs in the telephone industry? Did you charge police lines and throw ball bearings under the hooves of police horses for them Abbey? Why are you and others still banging on about them 30 years on? I can only believe it's not sympathy at the source but political mischief making.
Biggest and most c0nsistent moaners these days are actually the ungrateful buggers who DO have a job for life. Teachers, nurses and bloody civil servants! If they don't like their jobs then they should stop bleating and pack em in! Then they can see what living in the real world is like.

I'll tell you what you need to do instead of looking back and wishing history will change cos you do know that it can't. You can only change the future so why not try looking forward and influencing the future instead? You should do you know. Reason being that automation and computer technology will see many many more jobs go in the VERY near future! Needless to say Mrs Thatcher left No 10 30 years ago and whether it's Theresa May or (heaven forbid) jeremy Corbyn in situ this will happen and in fact is happening! It's as inevitable as night following day. So what are we to do about that? Set about PC world with a few sledgehammers in true luddite fashion?
 
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Alan

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She was an unfeeling nasty bitch who sacrificed the North for the benefit of her mates in the London area. Not every Tory gets it right.
 

Drog

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Cotton industry was spewed before she was even involved in politics. You have tunnel vision regarding Mrs Thatcher but even you can't deny that the Iron Lady would be bloody great now for this country with Corbyn, Trump, Juncker and Merkel all needing keeping in check.
 

OnlyOneTugay

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.....and the Labour MP at the time , a certain Barbara Castle , didn't give a fig for the cotton towns .

I had lots of relations ( parents , aunties , uncles etc ) who were made redundant when she and the Labour government helped to destroy the northern " spinning & weaving villages "

Why were the " mining villages " so special ? The only difference is my relations got other jobs and didn't moan on about it for ever and a day
 
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Drog

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.....and the Labour MP at the time , a certain Barbara Castle , didn't give a fig for the cotton towns . I had lots of relations ( parents , aunties , uncles etc ) who were made redundant when she and the Labour government helped to destroy the northern " spinning & weaving villages " and their " communities " Why were the " mining villages " so special ? The only difference is my relations got other jobs and didn't moan on about it forever and a day
Neither did her successor. Care to add to that Al?
 

Drog

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More opinion that Brexit will be the beginning of then end of the EU. Not only will the eu countries be asked to tighten their belts when our 12m annual subsidy to them dries up but it seems there will be many unpalatable strings attached...........

From The Economist.......
"Even at the best of times, EU budget negotiations are pretty bloody affairs. With a set sum of money to be divvied up and no country in a position to impose its will, they degenerate into free-for-alls that transform genial diplomats into “crazed money-grubbing vampires with euro signs for eyes”. And this year’s negotiations promise to be especially vicious because Brexit will leave a s12bn hole in the annual budget, which can be filled only through spending cuts, higher contributions or both. But there’s another reason. Some governments wish to “weaponise” the budget against disobedient EU members. They want to use the threat of non-payment against member states that refuse to take in their EU quota of refugees; and against Poland and Hungary for the way they’ve undermined the independence of the judiciary and the press, in violation of the EU’S basic rules. Some officials think hitting such countries in the pocket could succeed where political pressure and legal threats have failed. Possibly so. What’s certain, though, is that the stage is set for the most bitter of rows."
 
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