The Mask
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The real Brexit thread
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Don't expect me to defend Barbara Castle. She was the one who changed he expensive clothes and cars just before she arrived in Blackburn to blend in with the peasants and was known not to care if a mill closed down in Blackburn provided one opened in India. She was a bitch too.
yoda
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My mother told her where to get off on the stage in KGH in 1973
Benjamin Kaynine
Senior Member
Correct, except that the Tories who have followed her have continued the same policies of running the north into the ground.
Benjamin Kaynine
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Barbara Castle brought investment and new jobs to Blackburn to replace the declining textile industries. She was a brilliant, vivacious attractive woman with a fierce intellect, who should have been Britain's first woman prime minister, an iconic figure in the postwar politics of Britain, and a lifelong committed socialist.
Blackburn was lucky to have her as its MP.
yoda
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She did nothing for Park Brothers
She did nothing for anybody and was an ugly cow to boot.
yoda
Senior Member
Makes you question JD's judgement somewhat
You are right of course, she did nothing, a skilled toolmaker took me to one side in those days while I was still an apprentice toolmaker and told me as soon as I could, after finishing my apprenticeship, to move on and get experience of the world, which I did.
One of the best bits of advice I have ever received
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Benjamin Kaynine
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https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-...ay-over-blocs-rules-during-brexit-transition/
The 37% will be disappointed but the EU has made it clear to them - they can't have their cake and eat it.
The EU strategy is to put pressure on the UK to spell out their aims for a relationship after Brexit. This is reasonable but the EU knows that because we are such a divided country in our attitude to the EU that an answer is difficult in the extreme.
They hope that by asking this question often enough they will force the UK to face up to the fact that they are such a divided nation that another Referendum is inevitable.
The Tories will not be able to push a hard brexit through parliament and a Phillip Hammond brexit will split the Tory party in two.
Let's just stay in the EU,
The 37% will be disappointed but the EU has made it clear to them - they can't have their cake and eat it.
The EU strategy is to put pressure on the UK to spell out their aims for a relationship after Brexit. This is reasonable but the EU knows that because we are such a divided country in our attitude to the EU that an answer is difficult in the extreme.
They hope that by asking this question often enough they will force the UK to face up to the fact that they are such a divided nation that another Referendum is inevitable.
The Tories will not be able to push a hard brexit through parliament and a Phillip Hammond brexit will split the Tory party in two.
Let's just stay in the EU,
yoda
Senior Member
Er hum, don't call it the EU, it's the 4th Reich.
Looks like May be growing a pair at last
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...ts/?WT.mc_id=tmgliveapp_iosshare_AqHtHFmLZLc7
Benjamin Kaynine
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It gets worse - but presumably the 37% think it is a price worth paying.
https://www.ft.com/content/b3d35136-0543-11e8-9650-9c0ad2d7c5b5
https://www.ft.com/content/b3d35136-0543-11e8-9650-9c0ad2d7c5b5
yoda
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That link is just as bad as your usual no links to back up what you are posting John
Benjamin Kaynine
Senior Member
Here is the intro Michael. You'll have to subscribe for the rest. Beware though - you won't like it - and this is from your beloved government.
Britain will be left worse off under all Brexit scenarios, with financial services, chemicals, clothing, manufacturing, food and drink, cars and retailing among the sectors worst hit, according to secret government analysis.
Chris
Britain will be left worse off under all Brexit scenarios, with financial services, chemicals, clothing, manufacturing, food and drink, cars and retailing among the sectors worst hit, according to secret government analysis.
Chris
Steve Moss
Senior Member
Just tell the EU to pound sand. Enter into some bilateral free trade deals with USA, Canada, Australia, Japan, etc.. For every sanction the EU imposes on you, return the favor. The EU will come crawling hat in hand soon enough; they have too many beggars in their midst to successfully dictate to Britain and her allies.
davebirch
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JD, you keep blaming the "37%".
It's not them you should be directing your venom at, it's those that couldn't be arsed to get off their rear end and go to a polling booth. some 20 odd% of the voting public!
Remember also, that the remainers got less than 37%.
I think that there are too many people in the UK who are institutionalised. They want the state to do it all for them.
It's not them you should be directing your venom at, it's those that couldn't be arsed to get off their rear end and go to a polling booth. some 20 odd% of the voting public!
Remember also, that the remainers got less than 37%.
I think that there are too many people in the UK who are institutionalised. They want the state to do it all for them.
yoda
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You are clutching at straws John, it sounds as though it is taken from the leaked report that the snowflakes are spreading all over the media this morning, which is fataly flawed as it does not take into account any of the measures that this or subsequent governments will make to counter the effects of leaving the 4th Reich. Dave Birch has nailed it with his institutionalised comment and I would add a large dose of brainwasing to boot by our education system that has been taken over many years ago by the NWO
Do you not have the brains to realise that the EU are merely posturing. They know as well as we do that they need us more than we need them.
No chance. there would be steps taken to ensure that we could NEVER hold another referendum and we'd be punished as an example to other nations and be the EU whipping boys forever. You might want to reach for the vaseline every day but I certainly don't.
Why don't we just ask the eu to spell out THEIR terms fro brexit. After all they have more trade to lose than we have. The wimps and backsliders of this nation havn't quite grasped yet that we are in the driving seat.
She has the lessons of history at her disposal. First lesson take a note out of Thatcher's book and bin off the Tory 'Wets' to the backbenches.
Speaking of which .... at least the tories rightly or wrongly give us their opinions. Is it just me or does anyone else suspect that there has been a number of communiques from the labour whips to the Parliamentary Labour Party is to sit on their hands, keep schtum at all costa and hope to profit from the future situation by not giving any sort of opinion one way or the other? The silence currently from the Labour Party is deafening! Shameful when one considers the staunch Labour controlled Northern outposts who almost unanimously voted Leave.
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