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goozburger.

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Israel is now receiving incursions from Lebanon (well, just one small one so far). This could escalate further. I can see those states that do not recognise Israel will be well and truly in support of Hamas.

I think it's fairly clear that this has been orchestrated between a few countries at least.
 
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Drog

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And for good measure....
“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property – either as a child, a wife, or a concubine – must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the faith: all know how to die but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.”
― Winston Churchill, The River War
 

Old Darwen Blue

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Iran appears to be behind it all with the support of Qatar where amazingly the Hamas leader is currently based. Such a nice country, let’s give them a World Cup to host. Apparently following Israel signing deals with Egypt and Syria they were close to agreeing one with the Saudis. This would appear to be anathema to the Iranians who armed their Hamas puppet friends.

Anyone heard from Kate Hollern? Even David Lammy addressed the Labour conference today pledging Labours support to Israel. That puts her in a bit of a bad position.
 

Drog

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Anyone heard from Kate Hollern?
Are u avin a laff?
In all seriousness this couldn't have happened at a worse time for Labour. Starmer must be having sleepless nights wondering if any of the many anti semites will pick the Labour scab off by breaking ranks to condemn Israel. Once the sanctions and retaliations begin in earnest they'll need to gag some of them.
 

blueandwhitehalves

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Along with all the horrors Israel is enduring, this attack has really shown up how screwed Europe is. A worldwide-designated terrorist group conducts an unprovoked day of mass killing of Jews, reminiscent of the holocaust. And not only that, deliberately kidnaps women and children to be raped, beaten, beheaded, tortured and god knows what back in the Gaza strip.

And Muslims across Europe celebrate these barbaric, evil atrocities, and actually start joining in. Lobbing fireworks at the Israeli embassy, attacks on Jews (already disgracefully high) have gone up 300%. Along with the grooming gang atrocity, the 900 British Muslims that went to fight for Islamic State (who, for the resources at their disposal, were far worse than the Nazis), and countless individual incidents like the Batley teacher in hiding, the autistic kid who dropped a Quran and was treated terribly.

We have a phenomenally problematic group of people in this country, millions strong, who will be increasingly causing problems and taking horrifying positions on evil actions, until they just bring the country down completely. Thanks to the left, thanks to the race card throwers, thanks to Blair's Labour, you've ruined Britain.
 
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Drog

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Go back to the swinging 60's and 70's and there were plenty of people warning us but the hippy era saw their warnings drowned out by the peace and love brigade.
 

blueandwhitehalves

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Thanks to the Tories as well to be honest. When Cameron came in, he promised to bring immigration down to below 100,000 net per year (from the 300,000 at the time). Last year it was 1 million net (so probably about 1.4 million gross). Absolute insanity for a country of 70 million.

Combine that with the disgracefully whitewashed grooming gang report, and the Tories of the last 13 years have been practically indistinguishable from Labour when it comes to failing to protect British culture and values.
 

Drog

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Correct. Nearly every problem we have both in this country and worldwide stems from over population. I recall the threat of over population being a major issue in the 60's and 70's but it is never mentioned these days..... now that it has happened and is continuing to happen. Back in '64 the nations population was 48m and the worlds population stood at 4 billion. Now it's almost 70m and over 7 billion respectively and rising! If that doesn't alarm people then it damned well should.
I know that I'm getting on a bit but back then you could see your Doctor the same day... and if you couldn't get to him he'd get to you. We had no need to import medical staff from across the world either. The roads were a pleasure to drive on both with fewer potholes and much fewer cars. Countryside wrecking urbanisation never entered people's minds. Children were much politer with better manners as parents teachers and other adults shared in disciplinary measures. Much much less litter littering the nation, No supermarkets with their 'ping' ready meals, few crappy fast food outlets and guess what? Little to no obesity! Make either a private or more particularly a business call and someone answered! Biggest of all immigration was something that we had been warned about but unwisely took no notice of, we dismissed the 'doom mongers' as racists.

I don't know who writes the plans for our destiny but they need shooting! Even more odd is that we live in a democracy of sorts yet whilst I can recall elections being fought on major topics like inflation, the NHS, Union fomented unrest, the Falklands, entry into the Common Market etc etc I can never recall one being fought on curtailing immigration and especially by muslims. Odd as that appears to be a main concern with the majority of people and the main cause of troubles around the globe.
 
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Drog

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Now what would a chechen be doing in France? Is immigration control non existent in all mWestern european nations? I doubt the eastern europeans wouldn't have let them live there because of a long and painful history repelling muslim expansion so why on earth does our cossetted existence prevent us from learning the lessons of history?
 

Drog

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British sense of fair play will be our undoing. The Afghans who assisted the British were extremely well paid for their services. We can help them but that should be with helping them relocate to another muslim country not this one!
 

Drog

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I don't know who writes the plans for our destiny but they need shooting! Even more odd is that we live in a democracy of sorts yet whilst I can recall elections being fought on major topics like inflation, the NHS, Union fomented unrest, the Falklands, entry into the Common Market etc etc I can never recall one being fought on curtailing immigration and especially by muslims. Odd as that appears to be a main concern with the majority of people and the main cause of troubles around the globe.
Seems some citizens of Northern Ireland don't want to go down the same road as the uk. Calling people racist just inflames opinion.
 

Drog

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Whoever first mooted the plan to allow virtually unchecked islamic advancement into Europe after centuries of protection by the Baltic and Slavic states should be named and shamed. Pandoro's box has been opened wide.
 

Drog

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Contacted by email last week offering a bond paying a guaranteed 7.5% and claiming to be issued by BAE and Morgan Stanley. Watch out this is well trhought out and elaborate but is just a SCAM! Morgan Stanley informed me when I checked that they NEVER issue such like by random emails.

Dunno if we want to be bothered but I'm wondering if it would be prudent to start a SCAM ALERT thread?
 

goozburger.

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Dunno if we want to be bothered but I'm wondering if it would be prudent to start a SCAM ALERT thread?
Not related to emails, but if you don't recognise the number contacting you, BRIF it.

Block: Block the number. Protect yourself and don't allow the same number to contact you twice. Scammers may use "burner" numbers, but it's better to do something than nothing and make their "job" difficult.

Report: Report the number in WhatsApp, Signal, etc., if that's where it came from. The number may then be blocked in the entire ecosystem, therefore reducing the chance of others being bothered.

Ignore: Do not reply. This will let them know that your number is "active", meaning a greater chance of scammers selling that number on to other scammers (yes, they really do this, and it's part of how they make money). Turn off read-receipts in WhatsApp if you can.

Forget: Don't waste any more time on them. Get back to what you were doing.
 

Drog

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I wonder if British Muslims who are so enthusiastic about human rights etc will be all over this?
Btw I'm not holding my breath.
Just imagine the uproar if the uk started expelling all Muslims of Pakistani origin and stating that they had all get out before Christmas? (If Carling did Christmas eh?)
 
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