davebirch
Senior Member
Warnie rates this guy. England have got to stick with him for a while at least.
Isn't his coach Stuart McGill, who was a bigger turner of the ball than Warnie.
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Isn't his coach Stuart McGill, who was a bigger turner of the ball than Warnie.
Wilpshire Blue
Senior Member
I agree Dave. Half the problem is giving youngsters their big break and then expecting instant success, throwing them away if it doesn't happen.
OnlyOneTugay
Prediction Champion 2019 & 2020
That’s a really tough one Dave . I don’t think cricket managers have the same sort of influence on performance as football managers . If they did , then for this bunch of average English test cricketers , I’d plump for a cricketing Big Sam
England are up there with the best in white ball cricket so I think it needs to be a red ball expert. To me the holy grail of England cricket is to win in Australia , the new man when he starts in 2019 needs to target that .
I thought Andy Flower was a fantastic manager & his partnership with Strauss was tremendous as far as test cricket went . I wonder if a Graham Thorpe / Joe Root combination might work . As a safe alternative Paul Farbrace did well before Bayliss took over .
Having said all that if two world class quickies appear on the county circuit , along with a world class spinner it won’t matter who gets the job !
Oh is it Jason Gillespie and Trevor Bayliss ?
England are up there with the best in white ball cricket so I think it needs to be a red ball expert. To me the holy grail of England cricket is to win in Australia , the new man when he starts in 2019 needs to target that .
I thought Andy Flower was a fantastic manager & his partnership with Strauss was tremendous as far as test cricket went . I wonder if a Graham Thorpe / Joe Root combination might work . As a safe alternative Paul Farbrace did well before Bayliss took over .
Having said all that if two world class quickies appear on the county circuit , along with a world class spinner it won’t matter who gets the job !
Oh is it Jason Gillespie and Trevor Bayliss ?
OnlyOneTugay
Prediction Champion 2019 & 2020
http://www.lccc.co.uk/cricket/news/2017-news
Well done Liam Livingstone , another Lancastrian in the England squad for NZ
Well done Liam Livingstone , another Lancastrian in the England squad for NZ
OnlyOneTugay
Prediction Champion 2019 & 2020
Interesting article from someone who knew how to bowl fast
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/42639889
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/42639889
davebirch
Senior Member
OOT, My other standout was Warnie.
He has a cricket brain like no other, the only reason he didn't become the Aussie captain was his indiscretions.
He would be the best of the best for coaching duties, and I don't think it would bother him one bit to coach England v the Aussies.
He'd love to say "I told you so" to the cricket establishment here.
The quandry for CA is who to pick, The ECB could be on a winner either way if they chose one of the two
He has a cricket brain like no other, the only reason he didn't become the Aussie captain was his indiscretions.
He would be the best of the best for coaching duties, and I don't think it would bother him one bit to coach England v the Aussies.
He'd love to say "I told you so" to the cricket establishment here.
The quandry for CA is who to pick, The ECB could be on a winner either way if they chose one of the two
Never mind putting the gloves on England and the selectors need to take em off! It's a series where strength of character is required more than any other cricketing series. Viv Richards prophetically said on the eve of the 1st test that the England team would be like 'kittens' in Australia without Ben Stokes! Anyone care to argue now after such a humiliation and with a Captain who whilst a superb batsman possesses the body language and demeanour of a limp David Gower? Where are the Trumans, Illingworths, Closes, Boycotts, Bothams, Lambs, Flintoffs these days? All superb cricketers and all possessed an incredible competitive, 'never give in' attitude.
Have we forgotten the lessons learnt from Jardine and Larwood? They made the Aussies look like kittens and that series finished 4-1 too....... the right way!
davebirch
Senior Member
Drog, you mention Jardine and Larwood.
That relationship was more like a "master/servant" one.
IIrc , Larwood stated that he did as he was told, but it was against the way he wanted to bowl. He never liked Jardine.
He came to live in Australia and died in Sydney some time back
That relationship was more like a "master/servant" one.
IIrc , Larwood stated that he did as he was told, but it was against the way he wanted to bowl. He never liked Jardine.
He came to live in Australia and died in Sydney some time back
OnlyOneTugay
Prediction Champion 2019 & 2020
Well done England , well done Jason Roy . Excellent one day win
Wilpshire Blue
Senior Member
We now have the highest test score by a visiting batsman at the MCG and the highest one day score by any batsman.
OnlyOneTugay
Prediction Champion 2019 & 2020
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/42718484
I don't get this . He was unavailable for selection before he was charged and now that he has been charged , he's available
I don't get this . He was unavailable for selection before he was charged and now that he has been charged , he's available
OnlyOneTugay
Prediction Champion 2019 & 2020
http://www.lccc.co.uk/cricket/news/...r-2018-season/?dm_i=1AF9,5EE7C,A1BW7X,KW5DS,1
Lancs add a "seasoned " Aussie fast bowler to their squad
“I can’t wait to join up with Lancashire for the upcoming county season. It is a Club that has a fantastic history and their elite programme and winning ambitions made the choice an easy one for my family and I. "
That's the sort of message we should be sending to Amari
Lancs add a "seasoned " Aussie fast bowler to their squad
“I can’t wait to join up with Lancashire for the upcoming county season. It is a Club that has a fantastic history and their elite programme and winning ambitions made the choice an easy one for my family and I. "
That's the sort of message we should be sending to Amari
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blueandwhitehalves
Senior Member
Absurd. Governing bodies in sport must be ranked amongst the most incompetent organisations in existence.http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/42718484
I don't get this . He was unavailable for selection before he was charged and now that he has been charged , he's available
OnlyOneTugay
Prediction Champion 2019 & 2020
The death of Sulaiman Dik Abed , at 73, has recently been announced . For those of us of a certain age and who played or watched Lancashire League cricket , ’ Dik’ who was professional at Enfield for 10 years was a legend and a magnificent cricketing all rounder . Apartheid prevented him from taking his rightful place in the South African Test team of the late 60s , early 70s
As an eight year old cricketer , along with many of the other starry eyed youngsters at Enfield , he started to coach me in both forward and backward defensive , laying the foundations for a moderate cricketing career. His coaching gave me the basic skills to play for a couple of seasons against some of the finest bowlers in the world in Lancashire League first team cricket .
Thank you Dik and Rest in Peace .
As an eight year old cricketer , along with many of the other starry eyed youngsters at Enfield , he started to coach me in both forward and backward defensive , laying the foundations for a moderate cricketing career. His coaching gave me the basic skills to play for a couple of seasons against some of the finest bowlers in the world in Lancashire League first team cricket .
Thank you Dik and Rest in Peace .
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