The Royal Engagement

[Drog]

At least they are elected (in the commons anyway)

I wouldn't put anything in place of it.

So assuming that yoda's figures are accurate the nation would be worse of by over 2 billion. Also millions of British citizens (and non Brits) around the globe actually like and support them but you'd simply ignore all those opinions and spew all that revenue? I don't think you'd make a very good businessman. Can you name any other families who contribute that amount to the nation's wealth every year? Just as an aside how much contribution to the nation's coffers do you make vinjay? You have a very selfish and rather embittered opinion vinjay if you don't mind me saying so.

What would you say about shutting the corporate hospitality at Ewood down, then closing off the JW Upper and the club losing a lot or revenue simply because they are all rich bastards and there's plenty of room these days in the cheap seats?

 

[Drog]

And no, I won't be watching this "Royal" wedding.
It's either Police Academy 2, or Where Eagles Dare followed by Kelly's Heroes.

Crikey they're old films. Have you only got a black and white telly dave?

 

[yoda]

Tories do that with a queen !!

How ?

 

[davebirch]

Crikey they're old films. Have you only got a black and white telly dave?

Anything is better than a royal wedding.
My Mrs (who was born in England as well ) also watched them with me. Bit of solidarity with me there.

 

[Vinjay]

So assuming that yoda's figures are accurate the nation would be worse of by over 2 billion. Also millions of British citizens (and non Brits) around the globe actually like and support them but you'd simply ignore all those opinions and spew all that revenue? I don't think you'd make a very good businessman. Can you name any other families who contribute that amount to the nation's wealth every year? Just as an aside how much contribution to the nation's coffers do you make vinjay? You have a very selfish and rather embittered opinion vinjay if you don't mind me saying so.

What would you say about shutting the corporate hospitality at Ewood down, then closing off the JW Upper and the club losing a lot or revenue simply because they are all rich bastards and there's plenty of room these days in the cheap seats?

I've seen arguments and statistics which dispute that.

As for corporate hospitality I would certainly like to change the main business providing it. Some of those "rich bastards" may have actually earned their fortune. It's not inheritance that bothers me as much (in general) as the sheer cult like sheep mentality of their supporters. As I've said before some issues are black and white for me (noted those who opposed slavery as an extreme and ironically literal example) and this is one of them. The amount of coverage and time dedicated to this nonsense is absurd. You can't make changes without a starting point and over time more and more people will come round to the republican argument. Then something can be done about it legally and constitutionally.

As for the remarks about governments becoming dictatorships, etc what the hell could the royals do about it to be regarded as a backup option? That's what the military are supposed to prevent (coups, power abuse, etc) though in some cases of course it's the opposite. The backup option would most likely be a military figure in control for a while. That is of course if it's not the military pulling off a coup themselves in which case who could stop them besides opposing military factions? I couldn't see a coup happening in near future anyway and people were saying that about Trump. Over the top paranoia really.

Doubt the royals would care as long as their position was still protected.

 

[yoda]

Lets have a look at the statistics then Vinjay.
By Republic, do you mean like France ?

Or maybe Sudan
https://news.un.org/en/story/2018/05/1010162

 

[Benjamin Kaynine]

Back up is always needed. Having a safety valve in the Queen if Parliament runs amok makes a certain amount of sense.

The real strength or public benefit of the monarchy is: 1) tourism revenue; and, 2) a unifying symbol of the Western world. The Queen has zero power in the USA for example, but has a lot of public goodwill. Mostly as she’s avoided taking sides too publicly on political issues, I presume.

So I see the sense in keeping the monarchy, even if I find the concept ridiculous.

The Queen has "zero power" here too, and alot of public goodwill, despite being a tax avoider and evader. The monarchy is apolitical - as any 5-year old would know, though the Queen famously took a dislike to Thatcher - and she wasn't alone in that regard.

An American would find the monarchy ridiculous in the same way the rest of the world sees US constitution regarding guns laws as ridiculous.

Most people in this country have what I would call a relationship of "polite disinterest" in the monarchy. We're not pro or anti-Royal and just hope they don't embarrass us too much, Charles being the prime example.

I thought the ceremony was a wonderful celebration of the marriage of two people and two cultures - a fine example of multi-cultural Britain.

I imagine the racist Brexit pensioners at the back of Wetherspoons must have been spitting feathers.

Chris

 

[yoda]

The Queen has "zero power" here too, and alot of public goodwill, despite being a tax avoider and evader. The monarchy is apolitical - as any 5-year old would know, though the Queen famously took a dislike to Thatcher - and she wasn't alone in that regard.

An American would find the monarchy ridiculous in the same way the rest of the world sees US constitution regarding guns laws as ridiculous.

Most people in this country have what I would call a relationship of "polite disinterest" in the monarchy. We're not pro or anti-Royal and just hope they don't embarrass us too much, Charles being the prime example.

I thought the ceremony was a wonderful celebration of the marriage of two people and two cultures - a fine example of multi-cultural Britain.

I imagine the racist Brexit pensioners at the back of Wetherspoons must have been spitting feathers.

Chris

I didn’t know you frequented Witherspoon’s Jim, has the Judge Walmsley not re opened yet

 

[ABBEY]

Benjim the first person I've seen ANYWHERE mention her skin colour yet he says spoons brexiteers are racist ...think you need to look in your mirror.

 

[yoda]

Spot on Abbey, Jim is the embodiment of the cancer currently infecting the Labour Party, the party that used to represent the general public.

 

[Drog]

I thought the ceremony was a wonderful celebration of the marriage of two people and two cultures - a fine example of multi-cultural Britain.

Nothing wrong with cross breeding every few generations. It's 'hybrid vigour'. In fact it's very necessary to strengthen the gene pool. The big question is what to cross with next? Backwards or forwards? Backwards being the usual choice.
Unfortunately cross breeding appears to be swerved at all costs by the muslim world and that's why the congenital disorders amongst the muslim community are disproportionately high to other groups of people. Still I suppose it's Allah's will eh?

 

[Drog]

An American would find the monarchy ridiculous in the same way the rest of the world sees US constitution regarding guns laws as ridiculous.

Chris

I disagree. Lots of people the world over seem to envy us having the Royal family and the associated pomp and circumstance. Also there seemed an awful lot of septics lining the streets who had come over especially for the occasion.

 

[Benjamin Kaynine]

Benjim the first person I've seen ANYWHERE mention her skin colour yet he says spoons brexiteers are racist ...think you need to look in your mirror.

Nonsense.

The bride's "skin colour" has been a talking point in the media since the marriage was announced. It was discussed at length on TV yesterday. How could it not when a "coloured" woman is marrying into the royal family?

The difference is most people see it as a cause for celebration (see my post), whereas the old codgers who voted for Brexit do not.

Chris

 

[Drog]

I'm not sure "coloured" is a PC term these days. I believe we are back to black, brown, white and yellow to distinguish people but I could be wrong. Things which were PC once quickly come to be out of favour ... and then back again depending on the whims of certain quarters.

Anyway have you led by example here? Is your partner coloured or are you simply using this matter as a convenient stick to beat the good people of this nation with again?

 

[Alan]

Nonsense.

The bride's "skin colour" has been a talking point in the media since the marriage was announced. It was discussed at length on TV yesterday. How could it not when a "coloured" woman is marrying into the royal family?

The difference is most people see it as a cause for celebration (see my post), whereas the old codgers who voted for Brexit do not.

Chris

That's complete rubbish. Who told you that? Or is it another thing you have just assumed or made up in your own twisted head. Certainly nobody on here, to my knowledge, has mentioned her colour EXCEPT YOU.
She is a beautiful woman who several posters on here have more than hinted that they have found to be extremely attractive. Stop making it up and putting YOUR WORDS into other people's mouths. It is obvious to me that it is you who is the racist.

 

[ABBEY]

Nonsense.

The bride's "skin colour" has been a talking point in the media since the marriage was announced. It was discussed at length on TV yesterday. How could it not when a "coloured" woman is marrying into the royal family?

The difference is most people see it as a cause for celebration (see my post), whereas the old codgers who voted for Brexit do not.

Chris

IM PRESUMING YOU HAVE ACTUAL PROOF OF THIS ....

 

[OnlyOneTugay]

I’ve attempted to refrain from commenting on this thread . My wife is black so I didn’t want to get involved in the discussions which I knew would turn sour . Unfortunately I’ve failed on the former but was right on the latter !

The left / liberal intelligentsia had a dilemma yesterday . They hate Britain , the monarchy , the US and the Commonwealth with a twisted passion . All that came together in joyous union yesterday , much to their chagrin . However at the same time they had to balance that hatred with the fact that Meghan is mixed race of African descent . In their tiny metropolitan and leafy suburban minds , they couldn’t be seen to disapprove of that , despite the fact that they’d have a fit if someone like Meghan’s mum or my wife moved in next door .

Sadly for the left /liberal intelligentsia the royal wedding turned out to be the best of British . The ceremony was the embodiment of tradition and modernity and gave us an inkling of how our great country can confidently progress . Arguably , as referred to in an earlier post , a dark cloud on the horizon is Islam and the difficulty of integrating the followers of such a backward and misogynist religion into Britain’s future , in the way that the mixed race Meghan and my wife have integrated .

I’m not a flag waver but it was lovely to see the Stars and Stripes and the Union flags waved together with an innocence and joy . It was such a pleasant change from the flag waving of divisive nationalism seen in Scotland and to a lesser extent by those trying to push the EU project

BenJimJohn’s hateful and divisive posts no longer get a reaction on the Momentum echo chamber that is BRFCS , so he posts them over here . It’s pleasing that one or two of our more skilful posters have called him out on this particular thread .

By the way , I haven’t posted since I saw you at the last match Al . Thanks for the welcoming my wife to our season ticket seats and for your kind compliment about her in an earlier post . She said as we sat down what a charming gentleman you were . See you next season

Finally 3 cheers for Harry and the beautiful Meghan on a wonderful day for Britain, the US and the Commonwealth . The boy done good !

 

[yoda]

I’ve attempted to refrain from commenting on this thread . My wife is black so I didn’t want to get involved in the discussions which I knew would turn sour . Unfortunately I’ve failed on the former but was right on the latter !

The left / liberal intelligentsia had a dilemma yesterday . They hate Britain , the monarchy , the US and the Commonwealth with a twisted passion . All that came together in joyous union yesterday , much to their chagrin . However at the same time they had to balance that hatred with the fact that Meghan is mixed race of African descent . In their tiny metropolitan and leafy suburban minds , they couldn’t be seen to disapprove of that , despite the fact that they’d have a fit if someone like Meghan’s mum or my wife moved in next door .

Sadly for the left /liberal intelligentsia the royal wedding turned out to be the best of British . The ceremony was the embodiment of tradition and modernity and gave us an inkling of how our great country can confidently progress . Arguably , as referred to in an earlier post , a dark cloud on the horizon is Islam and the difficulty of integrating the followers of such a backward and misogynist religion into Britain’s future , in the way that the mixed race Meghan and my wife have integrated .

I’m not a flag waver but it was lovely to see the Stars and Stripes and the Union flags waved together with an innocence and joy . It was such a pleasant change from the flag waving of divisive nationalism seen in Scotland and to a lesser extent by those trying to push the EU project

BenJimJohn’s hateful and divisive posts no longer get a reaction on the Momentum echo chamber that is BRFCS , so he posts them over here . It’s pleasing that one or two of our more skilful posters have called him out on this particular thread .

By the way , I haven’t posted since I saw you at the last match Al . Thanks for the welcoming my wife to our season ticket seats and for your kind compliment about her in an earlier post . She said as we sat down what a charming gentleman you were . See you next season

Finally 3 cheers for Harry and the beautiful Meghan on a wonderful day for Britain, the US and the Commonwealth . The boy done good !

The thread has not turned sour OOT, it has just highlighted the gross hypocrisy of the loonie left, I would say the general tone of the thread, excluding you know who, is a fair reflection of a moderate UK

 

[Vinjay]

Seen varying stories on the relationship between Thatcher and Liz.

Couldn't care less about skin colour, ethnic background, etc. My views are exactly the same as the Middleton wedding.

 

[Barmitzvah Boy]

What a wonderful wedding. Events like this are so good for our economy.

God save the Royals.