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World Cup 2018

Drog

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"The death of a dream team
Rio Ferdinand was thrilled when he was selected to play for England in 1997. But it wasn’t long before the public’s expectations started to get to him. “It weighs on your shoulders, the fear of losing, the repercussions of not being successful as a team or individual.” It was particularly intense because he was part of a golden generation of English players, says Ben Machell in The Times. They were a “dream team” – yet they didn’t deliver. It seemed mystifying at the time, but now Ferdinand, 39, can see why they failed. The players were on the same side, but they were bitter rivals. “I considered the Premier League to be my title,” he says. “So I was never going to walk into the England dressing room and open up to Frank Lampard, John Terry, Ashley Cole at Chelsea, or Steven Gerrard and Jamie Carragher at Liverpool, because of the fear that they’d take something back to their club and use it against us.” Ultimately, this proved toxic. “It killed that England team, that generation.”

So we all know the Lampard and Gerrard pairing didn't work (and some worked it out much faster than others) and now we know why! What I really want to know is why tf so many press and media 'experts' didn't suss it and worse still why successive England Managers kept slavishly picking them for over a bloody decade!!! As Einstein famously stated..."The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results" Tossers the lot of em and unless I'm very much mistaken we've another one in charge right now!
 

blueandwhitehalves

Senior Member
In my opinion you have to pick your best players. A team with a mix of Man U, Chelsea and Liverpool players might not win things because of subtle things like dressing room harmony. A team made up of players from the 14 PL clubs who could be in a relegation battle any given season definitely won't win things because they just aint good enough.

The golden generation underperformed I agree but their stock quarter final finishes were still better than our last 16/group stage finishes since. What I don't get either is how come Barca/Real Madrid players can get on playing for Spain but our lot couldn't?
 

Drog

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Staff member
British disease. Weak characters. This comment btw could just as easily have been posted on the cricket thread.
 
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Vinjay

Senior Member
Spain sack their manager two days before their opening match because he has agreed to join Real Madrid after the World Cup without their knowledge
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44467548
I agree with it. Lopetegui was clearly completely disrespectful and if anyone forced the Spanish FA's hand he did. Real Madrid's arrogance is pretty notorious though obviously we are somewhat shielded from it in this country. I wouldn't be surprised if Spain go on to win the whole thing they are probably good enough to get away with something like this. Just as clubs like Real can get away with a revolving door of managers without any real long term effect.

This article sums up my thoughts well.

http://www.espn.com/soccer/fifa-wor...i-behaved-poorly-spanish-fa-right-to-fire-him
 
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Drog

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Staff member
I wonder how much that cost :)
Bribe a Saudia Prince? Be expensive I'd imagine. Anyway no need to bribe em they are the lowest ranked and from what I saw pretty poor....... they might beat Iceland if they played them though.
 

OnlyOneTugay

Prediction Champion 2019 & 2020
Danny Murphy , Rio Ferdinand & Gary Lineker as pundits . The BBC couldn’t have picked 3 more dislikeable pundits if they’d tried . That alone makes it hard to watch World Cup football .

Roll on the cricket tomorrow
 

OnlyOneTugay

Prediction Champion 2019 & 2020
Damn ! Just read the report sounded like a fantastic game . I didn’t watch it because I can’t stand Murphy and his inane commentary . Despise him even more now !
 
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