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chor808

Senior Member
Southend council is run by the Tories.

No doubt they've cut services to the bone in the name of "austerity" so there's now no means of clearing it up.

Private wealth and public squalor - you get what you vote for
FFS, it should not need clearing up! Take your shite home with you, what is wrong with people.
 

Benjamin Kaynine

Senior Member
FFS, it should not need clearing up! Take your shite home with you, what is wrong with people.

Agreed. But why people litter is a separate issue. The problem needs to be dealt with through education and culture change (people have been chucking stuff in the streets for hundreds of years) and a massive effort by local authorities and highways to clear up the environment - which is a national disgrace.

Chris
 

chor808

Senior Member
Agreed. But why people litter is a separate issue. The problem needs to be dealt with through education and culture change (people have been chucking stuff in the streets for hundreds of years) and a massive effort by local authorities and highways to clear up the environment - which is a national disgrace.

Chris
Agree for once however it is not a separate issue, it is the issue. You don't need a penny of tax payers money, you need a parent telling you, throw it in the bin or else. I don't litter, I'm sure you don't, it is common sence not to do it. No funding required.
 

Drog

Administrator
Staff member
Was it the tories that left it strewn about?


Might be very revealing to conduct a poll of people convicted for such to reveal their favourite political party.
 

blueandwhitehalves

Senior Member
Fancied a walk back from a conference in London to my hotel on Wednesday and went pretty much the whole width of Tower Hamlets. For anyone who doesn’t know, that’s a London borough with a very high ethnic population, about 40% asian and 10% black according to the 2011 census, which is likely a gross underestimation of those groups proportions considering who would avoid completing a census (the government had little clue who lived in Grenfell Tower).

My impressions weren’t all bad. People seemed ok, not friendly but not threatening. There were a lot of school kids about who all had pretty smart uniforms and were pleasantly enough behaved. Racially there didn’t seem to be much tension, you’d see people of different colour mixing. But one thing that spoilt it was the litter. Which was absolutely appalling, and I mean horrific. Strewn across the streets, the roads, blowing about, stuck in fences, almost forming into piles outside shops.

Whether its cultural, economic, lack of respect for this country or what, there’s a definite correlation between areas of high immigration and garbage-strewn streets. Contrast that with a trip I had to Snowdonia last weekend and as soon as you enter Wales you get every motorway digital sign very firmly telling you not to drop litter. But they have the luxury of enforcing it because the people they’re bollocking don’t fall under the left’s criticism-immunity criteria.
 

OnlyOneTugay

Prediction Champion 2019 & 2020
Fancied a walk back from a conference in London to my hotel on Wednesday and went pretty much the whole width of Tower Hamlets. For anyone who doesn’t know, that’s a London borough with a very high ethnic population, about 40% asian and 10% black according to the 2011 census, which is likely a gross underestimation of those groups proportions considering who would avoid completing a census (the government had little clue who lived in Grenfell Tower).

My impressions weren’t all bad. People seemed ok, not friendly but not threatening. There were a lot of school kids about who all had pretty smart uniforms and were pleasantly enough behaved. Racially there didn’t seem to be much tension, you’d see people of different colour mixing. But one thing that spoilt it was the litter. Which was absolutely appalling, and I mean horrific. Strewn across the streets, the roads, blowing about, stuck in fences, almost forming into piles outside shops.

Whether its cultural, economic, lack of respect for this country or what, there’s a definite correlation between areas of high immigration and garbage-strewn streets. Contrast that with a trip I had to Snowdonia last weekend and as soon as you enter Wales you get every motorway digital sign very firmly telling you not to drop litter. But they have the luxury of enforcing it because the people they’re bollocking don’t fall under the left’s criticism-immunity criteria.
Well Tower Hamlets sounds bad , but is it worse than our own litter town ? Parts of Preston New Road are permenantly litter strewn 6 days a week . Tuesday is when the hard working Council employee picks it all up . Within 24 hours it’s all over the place again . Can’t understand why the Council don’t put signs up on the lamp posts like they did advertising the Blackburn Making Festival . Signs warning people not to drop litter and what the fines are if they do . Perhaps accompanied with a message about having pride in your town ( and your country )
 
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Wilpshire Blue

Senior Member
Why don't they deploy some of those litter enforcers up there?
The latest figures showed that they have prosecuted more people for dropping fag ends than anything else.

I'm not for one minute condoning dropping fag ends but if you had to drive up Preston New Road and see 100 fag ends or 100 polystyrene cartons, which would you prefer?

It would soon reduce if folk knew they had to face a consequence. Especially one that hit them in the pocket.
 

OnlyOneTugay

Prediction Champion 2019 & 2020
Yeah it’s odd that Wilpshire . The litter enforcers just seem to concentrate on the town centre , although I might be wrong They need to spread out a bit. They could make money hand over fist if they did that and spread the message via fines that dropping litter is unacceptable and anti-social , whatever part of the town you frequent . . I’d start opposite what used to be the Fox and Grapes . Fast food outlets , scruffy newsagent and an even scruffier fruit and veg shop that’s permenantly got litter , cardboard boxes and other associated garbage on the pavements right outside the front door .
 
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yoda

Senior Member
Why don't they deploy some of those litter enforcers up there?
The latest figures showed that they have prosecuted more people for dropping fag ends than anything else.

I'm not for one minute condoning dropping fag ends but if you had to drive up Preston New Road and see 100 fag ends or 100 polystyrene cartons, which would you prefer?

It would soon reduce if folk knew they had to face a consequence. Especially one that hit them in the pocket.
All Labour double voters
 

Drog

Administrator
Staff member
What a guy! My nomination for an MBE in the Queens Honours list! I've made some similar offenders do the same on a couple of occasions in the past. All so apologetic they were too when confronted. Bloody easy to say sorry when you don't mean it. "can you please delete the video?" "No fuck off!":laughing:
I just hope Mr SH Building Solutions receives a condemnation and not vilification from the authorities. A proper citizen who I wouldn't allow to buy a drink in my local.

Am I alone in believing that they'd just dump it somewhere else and that a kick in the bollocks and a lump hammer on every car light cluster from two hairy arsed builders might have had a more lasting effect..... on the entire community?
 
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Drog

Administrator
Staff member
............... Signs warning people not to drop litter and what the fines are if they do . Perhaps accompanied with a message about having pride in your town ( and your country )
And there's the rub!
 

OnlyOneTugay

Prediction Champion 2019 & 2020
Well done to Heidi , Michelle and Tracey , getting the kids involved too . Schools should be involved as well . The amount of litter in Blackburn is an absolute disgrace , we are drowning in the stuff . Keeping Blackburn tidy is a mammoth objective . Hopefully more and more groups will be formed like this and maybe , just maybe , the litter louts of Blackburn will be persuaded to start putting their rubbish in a bin or alternatively taking it home with them .

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.u...ith_the_fight_against_litter/#comments-anchor

Well done Senagal and now the Japan fans are at it !

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44492611

This says it all :

"You often hear people say that football is a reflection of culture. An important aspect of Japanese society is making sure that everything is absolutely clean and that's the case in all sporting events and certainly also in football."
 
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Drog

Administrator
Staff member
Well done indeed. Let's hope the initiative catches on and lets hope that it is fully supported by the council with whatever help they need.
RE: The New Bank clear up. Compared to what it was a generation or more back New Bank Road is a shit hole. One day whilst in a shop there I remarked on the rubbish on the street and the proprietor pointed out that the waste bins were full and overflowing (which they were and especially outside the take aways) but that the council was not coming regularly enough to empty them. Dunno if that's changed but if I'd been a shopkeeper I'd have bagged stuff up in bin bags (5-10 mins per day) just to make sure that the entire area was clean and welcoming for my customers. I'd also have nagged my local councillors to sort more collections out too.
 

OnlyOneTugay

Prediction Champion 2019 & 2020
Yeah but Labour Councils always have that ready made excuse for failing to prioritise ............ austerity :rolleyes:
 
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